Originally Posted by golfugh
Everyone please ignore him!
I will, I will, I promise I will, but I had one more thing to say and I type slow and hate to have wasted that time. As if it were not already wasted but this may give him SOMETHING to think about before his next useless post on the same subject in other threads. He was already asked not to post in my own thread and deleted twice today by a moderator that's catching on. We can only hope that sentiment spreads throughout the entire forum. So here's what I had planned to say, I hope it was worthwhile and doesn't p**s off everyone else.
Originally Posted by DougWinsor
If something sounds different then there would be a different measurment and we would be well aware about this change. Are you saying that the molecular structure changes over time by passing an electrical signal through something? If so why does break in only occure in audio and why does it only happen in the "high end" or "named" components?
I didn't realize that you even disagreed with the concept that a piece of electronics needs to at least warm-up before it can be measured and it's specs can approach those of what you read!
Are you not familiar with the term "DRIFT" of various types and differing reasons concerning electronic components?
A very easy to see example would be to just turn off a radio with meters that was tuned perfectly to a station.
Let it cool back down to room temp and turn it back on again.
You'll find at this point the station is no longer perfectly tuned but don't try to re-tune it just yet.
Let the tuner "warm-up" and after a few minutes, when it does, you'll find the station is once more perfectly tuned in.
It has nothing to do with the airwaves or anything else but the fact that it was first measured tuned while warm vs. the room temp measurement.
The same applies to all other things electronic but I think is most easily seen with a simple radio tuner.
Perhaps you don't see the claims of any performance differentiation before or after a break-in period on the low-end components your familiar with is because the tolerance of the parts used is so far apart to begin with, that there is no way it'll make any noticeable difference if you run it at a sub-zero temp brand spankin new or warmed up after a few hours.
Have you ever given that a thought?
My guess, of course not cause there is no such thing as a better part to make a better component.
And no such thing as the bothersome process of the matching of these better parts, that don't exist in your world in the first place!
Look into these concepts and get back to us.
Since you are no longer welcome in this thread either,
this will give you the prefect opportunity to open the thread I suggested to you before. The "Argue A Fact With DougWinsor" thread.
I thank everyone else for their time and wish all a good night.