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post #4831 of 5778
I would be curious to know how far down the road Classe takes the SSP-800? On the surface it appears they can update the SSP-800 to handle new technology by having several hardware/firmware updates. I'm hoping they continue to offer these types of upgrades in the future. Its a great way to keep loyalty to the product, along with selling the updated version of the SSP-800. I'm fairly new to Classe products, got my first gear summer of 2011. At this point my SSP-800 was delivered with the most current hardware, and I did the operating software update that came out last month. As a fairly new owner I have my hopes set high that they continue with the SSP-800 platform as long as possible.

See Ya,
Steve
post #4832 of 5778
I attended a tech expo at my local stereo store on 5/4/12 and one of the demonstrations was done for the CP-800 by Dave Baker who is a rep for the BW Group.

He mentioned that the CP-800 ethernet upgrade will be offered around September, 2012 and will cost $500. All new CP-800 units coming from the factory with the ethernet upgrades will cost an additional $500. The current units will not have to be sent back to the factory, but will be upgraded by field technicians coming to your home and installing the new hardware / software.

For those with an SSP-800, he also mentioned that a new version is being worked on now and will be coming out in about 1-1.5 years from now. Current SSP-800 units will NOT be upgradable to the newer unit, so this will truly be the next generation preamp processor. He would not say what new features it would include but my guess would be having such things as ethernet streaming, Apple / Airplay support, 4K video support, etc...
post #4833 of 5778
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Originally Posted by RoubaixPro View Post

For those with an SSP-800, he also mentioned that a new version is being worked on now and will be coming out in about 1-1.5 years from now. Current SSP-800 units will NOT be upgradable to the newer unit, so this will truly be the next generation preamp processor.
The new unit is a lower priced model. That will be followed by an SSP-800 update, per Classe.
post #4834 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

The new unit is a lower priced model. That will be followed by an SSP-800 update, per Classe.


That's great news, thanks Roger! I am so satisfied with my SSP-800.biggrin.gif
post #4835 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

That's great news, thanks Roger! I am so satisfied with my SSP-800.biggrin.gif

+1 here! Still very pleased with the 800's performance!

Dave
post #4836 of 5778
Roger-thats awesome news! Sign me up too. Looking forward to the SSP-800 and CP-800 updates.

Steve
post #4837 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

The new unit is a lower priced model. That will be followed by an SSP-800 update, per Classe.

Really interesting will it have new features not found in the SSP-800, such as DPIIx and so on..

Also when do you expect a new "SSP-800+" replacement Dec 2013?

Just want to know so I can sell the SSP-800 before it drops by 50% frown.gif
post #4838 of 5778
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Really interesting will it have new features not found in the SSP-800, such as DPIIx and so on..
You mean PLIIz? We have x.
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Also when do you expect a new "SSP-800+" replacement Dec 2013?
Just want to know so I can sell the SSP-800 before it drops by 50% frown.gif
The next best info will presumably come from Kal or others who go to CEDIA.
post #4839 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

The new unit is a lower priced model. That will be followed by an SSP-800 update, per Classe.
SSP-800 update as in we can change a board and upgrade it?
Or update as in a whole new model and we won't be able to upgrade our current version?
post #4840 of 5778
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Originally Posted by urskog View Post

SSP-800 update as in we can change a board and upgrade it?
Or update as in a whole new model and we won't be able to upgrade our current version?
I have no further specifics. But to me, update means within the original chassis.
post #4841 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

You mean PLIIz? We have x.
The next best info will presumably come from Kal or others who go to CEDIA.

Yes IIz sorry.

Depending on my schedule I might be able to go. The only issue is Indianapolis why do it in the middle of nowhere frown.gif I know it's a tradition but it would be nice if they did it in an easier place to get to!
post #4842 of 5778
I have a CT-SSP and 5-channel amp on order and due in any day. I don't see what the big deal is with Ethernet streaming. For $1K or less you can get a SqueezeBox Transporter or many other add-on streamers that will add all the networked functionality you can ever want. I don't think I would dump an SSP just because it doesn't do streaming.
post #4843 of 5778
I have a similar situation with my A1UDCI, I am having to deal with some repair expense with this unit, and thought about just gettting a universal bd player like the Oppo 93 that does sreaming and all the smart apps + letting the SSP800 handle the audio is a pretty good option.. The problem, is the A1 is pretty good when it's working.
post #4844 of 5778
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

I have a similar situation with my A1UDCI, I am having to deal with some repair expense with this unit, and thought about just gettting a universal bd player like the Oppo 93 that does sreaming and all the smart apps + letting the SSP800 handle the audio is a pretty good option.. The problem, is the A1 is pretty good when it's working.


Let it go! I know you've been attached to it reading your posts in the past in this thread. I hardly use my Ayre CX-7e for listening to CD's anymore, another reason I am about to switch to the Oppo. I don't hear of too many complaints regarding Oppo and they ones that are vocal seem to find resolve when dealing directly with the company? The problem I see with your A1UDCI is as you stated "when it's working" that in itself would drive me crazy. My Panasonic BD30 froze the other night but is fine after a hard reboot, the thing won't die! I may just have to retire it here in the next couple of months.
post #4845 of 5778
Hey all. I had to check in cuz I've had a rough AV week this week and you guys are the only ones that would understand outside of 2 or 3 friends. The week started off OK when after a fair number of years I finally had the $$ to get a used Revel Voice to match my Studio's and I actually found what appeared to be a reasonable deal on a one owner well cared for Voice with the pedestal while I still had the money (the perfect storm), so I pulled the trigger. 2 days after that the transformer 5 houses away blew and the benefit (or lack thereof) unfolded over a period of the next 2 days where many surge protected power strips ended up in the garbage, along with my son's xBox and a USB wall charging station. The next day I went to turn on my theater stuff and nothing. Everything except the amplifier runs through an Equi=Tech 1.5RQ balanced power conditioner and surge protector, so my first thought is that the Equi=Tech popped the breaker. But upon further investigation it was getting power but the SSP-800 blue LED wasn't lit, nor was the CA-5200 LED. The 800ma fuse was blown in the SSP but not the 15a on the CA-5200. Pulling the 5200 out of the rack was a pain. There is an internal 800ma slow blow fuse that was also blown. I was told to leave the amp unplugged for 24 hours before I removed the top cover so that ate another day. Replaced that fuse and all appeared to be fixed. Spent another couple of hours getting the cables re-attached and organized after making sure everything was functioning, which it was. Meanwhile, the Voice arrives and I'm anxious to get it setup so I unpack that and then spend an hour getting the pedestal setup and the speaker attached and adjusting the angle to the listening position and getting it placed and leveled. Turned everything on and... it doesn't sound right. Turns out the midrange driver is blown in the Voice. This was the turd in the punch bowl!! So this morning I call Harmon with the symptoms and they tell me that is very common with the older Voice and that they have that driver in stock, so I order it. I then call the seller and he was apologetic and agreed to cover the cost of the driver. Phew!
It would seem that some other event that I was not aware of took out the surge protector in the Equi=Tech as the LED that says there is power to the unit and the surge protector is functioning properly has not been on for some time. I contacted Equi=tech but nothing back from them yet. The spike got through to the SSP so it must not be working, unless tha value of the fuse its set low to protect even a tiny spike. I wasn't at home when the transformer blew but my family said the the lights got really bright twice in succesion then the power went out followed by a nasty sounding bang outside. If you didn't know this most lower cost surge protectors are only good for one event, so if you think that one has occured its a lot cheaper to buy new ones than to replace your equipment. The 3 PCs survived along with my living room gear so they saved me big time.
Looking forward to having everything running again. Sure makes you appreciate it more when you can't use it for a while.

Best,
Tim
post #4846 of 5778
Classé fans

Three (3) 802D first edition as I am upgrading my room and need the cash for one 800Diamond. Three 802D cherry in mint condition priced to sell. Driven by Classé CA-5200 and SSP-800. Will sell the CA-5200 as well.

Send me a PM if interested
post #4847 of 5778
Wow and I thought I had a/v problems. I guess I have been lucky as I have a lot of power surges where I live and only had to replace one desktop computer. Good luck with getting everything up to speed.
post #4848 of 5778
If cost to repair the A1 would have been much more than it turned out I would take your advice & sell it on e-bay, which I may still do. I thought I recalled that you preferred the analog route for 2-channel, so now are you just using the digital connection either Coax or HDMI from your source player to the SSP800? If so are you going with the Oppo 93 as opposed to the 95. To be honest I have been listening to cd's with my Denon 3800 the past 2 months via the HDMI and finding the difference hard to tell with the exception of the sound direction.
post #4849 of 5778
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

If cost to repair the A1 would have been much more than it turned out I would take your advice & sell it on e-bay, which I may still do. I thought I recalled that you preferred the analog route for 2-channel, so now are you just using the digital connection either Coax or HDMI from your source player to the SSP800? If so are you going with the Oppo 93 as opposed to the 95. To be honest I have been listening to cd's with my Denon 3800 the past 2 months via the HDMI and finding the difference hard to tell with the exception of the sound direction.


I still prefer the analog 2 channel but have been happy with the HDMI connection.My goal is to use the Oppo 93 using HDMI only eliminating the need for analog 2 channel connection and also having a "one player" solution. If my Ayre had an HDMI output I would gladly use that route.
post #4850 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

I still prefer the analog 2 channel but have been happy with the HDMI connection.My goal is to use the Oppo 93 using HDMI only eliminating the need for analog 2 channel connection and also having a "one player" solution. If my Ayre had an HDMI output I would gladly use that route.

I got my A1UDCI player back late yesterday and today I had a chance to play an assortment of disc types and all seemed to play ok. I did have one scare with I believe a SACD where I got a "NO DISC" but opened and closed the tray and it played on the second go around. Hoping that was just a fluke. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The last thing I need to do is do a firmware update to my SSP-800 Pre/Pro, as this might be responsible for the “No Disc” reading from the one SACD I played.
post #4851 of 5778
^^ If you are running 3.0.2 there would not be any need to update, and even if you were running an older version, I cannot see how that would relate with a "no disc" error. But the latest code is well worth the update if not already done.
post #4852 of 5778
Hello,
I'm using an HDMI connection from my Oppo BDP-95 universal player to my Classe SSP-800. Is it possible for me to connect the Oppo to the SSP-800 via the stereo inputs of the SSP-800 at the same time?
Thanks.

Rick
post #4853 of 5778

Yup.  All Oppo 95 outputs are active.

post #4854 of 5778
I know I am late, but I have just tried the new Dolby Volume feature and wanted to share some feedback.
First, it was impossible for me to use the Downloader_v1.3.exe with windows 7. After a couple of hours trying everything, I just found a copy of the v1.2 exe, and I used it successfully to do the upgrade (PM me if you want a copy).

Then I tried to listen to the Dolby Volume feature.

I have to admit at first it wasn't so clear how to activate it:
1- input settings / audio / favorite mode => activate the Dolby Volume option
2- settings / Dolby Volume => chose your options (leveler AND/OR modeler)

I tried it on a bluray (The Return Of the Jedi).

My impressions:

PROS
- the leveler works: there is no sudden increase in general sound volume, you are not worried to awaken your sleeping baby anymore
- some of the rear speaker effects are enhanced, and it is sometimes pleasant

CONS
- the behaviour is so strange... as it looks like there is no reference volume. The calculations seem to be made at the moment your change the volume. You can have the same volume whatever it is written 30db or 60db on the front panel... So be careful when you disable the DV option, it can be surprising.
- the dialog chanel is drastically reduced when the special effects being played are loud (maybe because I have a phantom center speaker, but it is quite annoying). It would be great if the center chanel was processed separately.
- the modeler adds sometimes some punch to the soundtrack, but most of the time, it just boosts the bass excessively.


I think I might use this Dolby Volume option when watching blurays late at night. But for sure I will remove the modeler, and I'll still have to keep a hand on the remote controller to adjust the dialogs volume when necessary.

PS: I also hear many "click" sounds when navigating from a chapter to another when DV is enabled... will be fixed in a year or two I presume
Edited by denosya - 8/15/12 at 3:32pm
post #4855 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

^^ If you are running 3.0.2 there would not be any need to update, and even if you were running an older version, I cannot see how that would relate with a "no disc" error. But the latest code is well worth the update if not already done.

Roger, unfortunately I am still on 2.0.2 build 0075 so I guess I need to do it. Will this latest update include all the previous updates? Don't really care to much about Dolby Volume control and I thought that it only pertained to Satellite or cable viewing and not dvd and bluray?
post #4856 of 5778
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

Roger, unfortunately I am still on 2.0.2 build 0075 so I guess I need to do it. Will this latest update include all the previous updates?
Wow, that's a long way back. It's 2.0.6 now. It is my understanding that each FW release has everything needed for the platform. The process will need an extra power reboot cycle because in 2.0.3 the DSPs were given new code.
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Don't really care to much about Dolby Volume control and I thought that it only pertained to Satellite or cable viewing and not dvd and bluray?
DV can be used for any source, but I don't use it either. The new FW remedies a lot of niggling errors.
Edited by Roger Dressler - 8/15/12 at 10:15pm
post #4857 of 5778
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

Roger, unfortunately I am still on 2.0.2 build 0075 so I guess I need to do it. Will this latest update include all the previous updates? Don't really care to much about Dolby Volume control and I thought that it only pertained to Satellite or cable viewing and not dvd and bluray?
An update is always complete and stand alone so you don't have to perform multiple upgrades to get to the desired version.
Do observe however that you use the correct version for your hardware since 3.x is only for units with the HDMI 1.4 board.
Since your unit is on 2.0.2 now I would assume that you have the dual DSP but not the HDMI 1.4 board so you should stick to the 2.x release branch and the latest version for that is 2.0.6.
post #4858 of 5778
Urskog, is your unit working again? I had the same problem on my unit 2 years ago. Classé Europe said they could not repair it (so they replaced it new).
post #4859 of 5778
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Originally Posted by denosya View Post

Urskog, is your unit working again? I had the same problem on my unit 2 years ago. Classé Europe said they could not repair it (so they replaced it new).
Hi!

Nope, the main board has been swapped but it still exhibits the same symptoms as before so further investigation is needed.
Carl (technical support, Classé) is due back on monday so we'll continue trying to figure it out then.
Interesting that you had the exact same problem, do you have any more details to give?
It would probably be helpful for me to know as much as possible about your case, what was tried before they "gave up" etc, maybe Carl could find the information in their system and it would shorten the process for me.
Thanks in advance smile.gif
post #4860 of 5778
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Wow, that's a long way back. It's 2.0.6 now. It is my understanding that each FW release has everything needed for the platform. The process will need an extra power reboot cycle because in 2.0.3 the DSPs were given new code.
DV can be used for any source, but I don't use it either. The new FW remedies a lot of niggling errors.

Thanks Roger, not sure about the extra power reboot and how that's going to work since I didn't have to deal with that the first and only time I updated my unit. Hopefully the units display will guide me thru it. I have always been a bit apprehensive about doing firmware updates, afraid I will brick the unit.
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Originally Posted by urskog View Post

An update is always complete and stand alone so you don't have to perform multiple upgrades to get to the desired version.
Do observe however that you use the correct version for your hardware since 3.x is only for units with the HDMI 1.4 board.
Since your unit is on 2.0.2 now I would assume that you have the dual DSP but not the HDMI 1.4 board so you should stick to the 2.x release branch and the latest version for that is 2.0.6.

You are correct I have the dual DSP but not the 3D upgrade. I will be sure to double check that I upload the correct pkg.
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