Official Classe SSP-800 thread. - Page 164

Roger, can I still use the SSP-800's speaker/bass management with the 2 channel analog inputs as long as I don't enable Bypass Direct?

^^ Exactly. It's just like any other digital source at that point. If you want both options available easily, just build a second input using the same source, with the Bypass enabled.

Ok, firmware update is done and thanks, Roger, for the tips on the config. I have one more question concerning Dolby Volume. I see how to configure it in the menu for Low or High and to enable the modeler. But I don't see how to assign it to only specific inputs. I only want to use it on DirecTV and not on other sources. How do I accomplish that?

TIA,
Karl

It's on the Favorite Processing menu.

>Menu
>System Setup
>Input
>Audio
>Fav.Processing

Is it true that the little screens that are predominantly blue switch to red when there's some sort of problem?

Would it be at all possible to reverse taht, so they're red most of the time and they swsitch to blue when there's a problem. Blue clashes with the WAF's planned colour scheme.

I know it's an extremely long shot, but I am always so very optimistic. It seems like it could just be some sort of mobo dipswitch. Or maybe even a patch that could be written to the firmware... or something.

Ok, thanks Roger. So I enable Dolby Volume in System Setup - Dolby menu and then select what input to apply it so under the Input setup, right?

Karl

Yes, the Dolby menu is a handy global control, easier to reach than the deeper audio menu setting.

I have mine set to red all the time, as that works better with the red walls.

>Menu
>Display
>Colors

Ok, got the Dolby Volume working and now for my next question. Under what Modes does the SSP output an audio signal on the SUB output? I know the sub is connected because I can generate a test tone to it when doing the speaker balancing. However, neither SAT TV or SACD inputs seem to be using the sub. The SACD is connected via analog XLR #1 and the SAT TV uses a HDMI connector. I have the audio on the SACD input set to Stereo 2channel and the SAT TV input is on Dolby Movie + Dolby Volume is enabled. It could be the source material because I haven't had time to test all the sources with different material but are there only certain processing modes where the SSP will output to the SUB?

Karl

There are only two ways to get a signal out the sub output.

a) 5.1 source (or 7.1), which uses the LFE channel.

b) Bass redirected from main channels. This requires setting some speakers = small.

It does not matter what surround or DD Vol modes are used.

Thanks, Roger. Another problem solved, I have my L & R Revel Gems set as large or full range. I'll reset them to small and that should do it for the 2 channel sources.

Karl

Hello Roger

Are you going to CEDIA this year I wish I could but I dpon't have time, plus Indianapolis of all places wish they aletrnated the location and had it on the west coast! SF or SD

Noop.

While installing the upgrade I did something wrong. The standby blue light keeps flashing and I cannot stop it from flashing. After many minutes I powered off and on the SSP but it still is flashing. Any suggestions?

^^ First confirm you are using the correct series of firmware for your hardware. 2.0.6 for the original HDMI 1.3 (dual DSP); or 3.0.2 for the newer HDMI 1.4 unit.

The just start the process all over again from step 1. You are not the first one who has had to repeat the process to make it stick.

Thanks Roger
On the Operation page "update firmware" is checked. On the next pare Backup " initializing" appears but the message quickly changes to "Transfer Error"
Any suggestions?

^^ Any chance your PC has not had the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86)" installed?

If that's all good, then you might need to try rolling back to the 3.0.1 code, and after that is successful, go for 3.0.2 again. BTW, I'm assuming you have the HDMI 1.4 hardware. Yes?

See the saga starting here and ending at post 1941.
Edited by Roger Dressler - 9/3/12 at 5:01pm

Looking to add a turntable with a MC cartridge as a source for my SSP. Looking for recommendations on phono preamps that pair well with the SSP.

TIA

Roger Thanks. My problem was my old PC. I use a Mac but keep the PC for downloads etc.

Carl Bastien of Classe tech support suggested I use Downloader 1.2 instead of 1.3 and it worked perfectly. Thanks again

Hi guys,

I'm just slowly building my system and unfortunately I went the wrong route on some of the products I purchased hence why I'm here with my question. I'm tossed between the Bryston SP3 vs the Classe SSP 800.

Any info would be great

I'm running all logans speakers and Lexicon power am with an Onkyo receiver which is what I'm replacing.

Glad you got it sorted. Even though I used downloader 1.3 as required for the transition to HDMI 1.4, I have always used 1.2 since, and now I know why!

That is *exactly* what I wanted to hear about it. I have the same sort of thing going on, so red is strongly wanted to match the rest of the red.

It's really hard to find units with red lights instead of blue!

My next question is about whether the CT-SSP is truly exactly the same as the SSP-800, and whether it will have the same support lifecycle.

Has anyone done a/b testing with each unit?

The insides are arranged kinda differently, and on some boards this can affect things.

Also, (And I guess this is for Roger, cause it seems like he's the Classe ambassador to this place) can you tell me what the sales ratio is between CT-SSP & SSP-800?

thanks!

Could somebody please tell me why I can't view either the stereo analogue bypass or the 7.1 analogue bypass. I cannot find them anywhere. I'd like to be able to listen to CDs in analogue.
Thank you.

Rick

I found this thread. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1423873/bryston-sp3-vs-classe-sp800-vs-audiolab-8200ap

I don't think any of the classe fans have voiced themselves in it yet, so it's all about the bryston.

OF course, there's strongly voice advice about auditioning units there, too.
Edited by nemir - 9/6/12 at 4:07pm

For Bypass Direct for 2-channel you go to System Setup and than to input hit next input until you get to the 2-channel analog inputs and than go to audio that is where you will see the Direct Bypass and where you would select it. As for the 7.1 Analog connectors if you are using them for the audio then 7.1 Bypass is automatic and unelectable. I have actually gone into the menu to try to turn it off but could not and that is because I am connected also to the 7.1 analog inputs. Perhaps Roger could confirm this as he certainly knows the SSP-800 and helped me out a few times.

Here is what Dave Nauber said on the matter.

There is a minor difference in the code package due to how the LED operates. Other than that the firmware is identical and always the same updates are provided to both versions.
I have no idea about sales, sorry.

mt14942,
Thank you very much for the reply. I sure hope this works for me.

Regards,
Rick

Too bad we can't get this in the SSP-800

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By the way I neglected to say that you can listen to 2-channel music without Bypass Direct selected, This gives you the option of using the SSP-800's speaker, bass management and EQ. I am planning on experimenting with this. I know of at least one person who goes that route for stereo music, I am curious if that's how most SSP-800 owners do that? I myself don't have the expertise yet to mess with the EQ but I can adjust the speaker levels, delays and bass management like I have done when I listen to 5.1 music or watching a bluray so I won't have to move my listening chair so I am right in the middle.