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post #5101 of 5475
12/10/12 at 10:25pm
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Better than the Classe, it might be interesting as I would not mind having one less component from source to speakers. Direct path is always best biggrin.gif

Check my reply in the 105 thread. I ran a Mark levinson 390s into my Levinson 335 amplifier and it was more transparent but less dynamic and loss the sweet midrange when running thru my Audio Research LS25 MKII preamplifier. I agree if the unit has enough gain it might sound pretty good. Nothing is free and you will give up something for that nugget of having less equipment in the chain. I believe the internals in the SSP-800 are still better than the Oppo BDP-103/105 units mainly the power supplies which is a major considertaion on the sonics and dynamics of a unit. I sold my Audio Research preamplifier after listening to the SSP-800. I am keeping my SSP-800.
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post #5102 of 5475
12/12/12 at 5:50am
How does the SSP-800 handle CODEC drops from a DVR (when fast fowarding) to avoid audible pops?
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post #5103 of 5475
12/12/12 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by dminches View Post

How does the SSP-800 handle CODEC drops from a DVR (when fast fowarding) to avoid audible pops?
Well behaved with a DirecTV HD DVR. No chirps.
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post #5104 of 5475
12/12/12 at 12:58pm
Thanks. I was wondering if you knew how they did this, whether it be an extended mute cycle, maintaining the CODEC even when the signal is dropped, etc.? So many other AVRs have difficulties with this.
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post #5105 of 5475
12/13/12 at 11:20am
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Check my reply in the 105 thread. I ran a Mark levinson 390s into my Levinson 335 amplifier and it was more transparent but less dynamic and loss the sweet midrange when running thru my Audio Research LS25 MKII preamplifier. I agree if the unit has enough gain it might sound pretty good. Nothing is free and you will give up something for that nugget of having less equipment in the chain. I believe the internals in the SSP-800 are still better than the Oppo BDP-103/105 units mainly the power supplies which is a major considertaion on the sonics and dynamics of a unit. I sold my Audio Research preamplifier after listening to the SSP-800. I am keeping my SSP-800.

I might do the same until MDA and Atmos are available 2013 hopefully or early 2014
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post #5106 of 5475
12/17/12 at 10:26pm
It think the interesting thing about the Classe SSP-800is how much better the picture quality is on my 65" Panasonic Plasma TV vs the
Anthem D2 (with built in video processor) which Is what I had before. Blu-rays and HD tv shows
Looks so much more vivid with better detail than with a Pre/Pro with built in Video processor.
Is this the case for many of you on here who had a video processor
Built into your Pre/Pro and then you switched to Classe SSP-800?
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post #5107 of 5475
12/17/12 at 11:27pm
Is there any downside to using the ebass feature on the Classe if you have full range speakers?
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post #5108 of 5475
12/17/12 at 11:33pm
Try it and see if you like it, if you do by all means use it smile.gif
For music I usually run my fronts as full range and listen in 2.0, but for movies I split the fronts at 80Hz and run a subwoofer.
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post #5109 of 5475
12/18/12 at 2:22pm
I was surprised ebass had the subwoofer engaged in 2.0 analog bypass. I didn't want that. Just on blu-ray movies & HDTV shows.
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post #5110 of 5475
12/18/12 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by Bigmoviefan View Post

I was surprised ebass had the subwoofer engaged in 2.0 analog bypass. I didn't want that. Just on blu-ray movies & HDTV shows.

You could configure a second "Configuration", say for 2.0 listening, with "ebass" not enabled. Assign that "Configuration" within your 2.0 input.

Dave
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post #5111 of 5475
12/18/12 at 3:08pm
I currently use three different "Configurations".
"Configuration1" for Bluray,HD DVD,LD,Satellite.
"Configuration2" for 2.1 music listening.
"Configuration3" for multi-channel music listening.

Dave
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post #5112 of 5475
12/18/12 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by Bigmoviefan View Post

I was surprised ebass had the subwoofer engaged in 2.0 analog bypass. I didn't want that. Just on blu-ray movies & HDTV shows.
Just to confirm, you have an analog input defined with "bypass select" enabled, and the subwoofer is operating?
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post #5113 of 5475
12/19/12 at 12:15am
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Just to confirm, you have an analog input defined with "bypass select" enabled, and the subwoofer is operating?
Well I assumed "bypass select" had even enabled. Which puzzled me when the sub worked in two channel when ebass was enabled. Long story short, of course,...."bypass select" had NOT been enabled. Two channel was the last input named during setup,my friend had done that last part. I just assumed! But that solves the puzzle of why the sub worked in 2 channel bypass!
Ha!
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post #5114 of 5475
12/20/12 at 10:09pm
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Originally Posted by buttecreeker View Post

I currently use three different "Configurations".
"Configuration1" for Bluray,HD DVD,LD,Satellite.
"Configuration2" for 2.1 music listening.
"Configuration3" for multi-channel music listening.
Dave
Sounds like a well thought use of your Classe Dave.
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post #5115 of 5475
12/21/12 at 2:07pm
Wow does it sound so much better after using the XTZ Room Anaylzer. Tighter bass, clearer center channel, more seamless surround sound! It took some time but it was worth the effort. Watching a good action movie using the Classe SSP-800 is quite thrilling!
Staying up late tonight!
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post #5116 of 5475
12/21/12 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by Bigmoviefan View Post

Wow does it sound so much better after using the XTZ Room Anaylzer. Tighter bass, clearer center channel, more seamless surround sound! It took some time but it was worth the effort. Watching a good action movie using the Classe SSP-800 is quite thrilling!
Staying up late tonight! smile.gif

Did you do it yourself or have someone help you?
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post #5117 of 5475
12/21/12 at 8:25pm
It's pretty easy. See my review of the SSP in Stereophile for an outline of the procedure.
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post #5118 of 5475
12/21/12 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

It's pretty easy. See my review of the SSP in Stereophile for an outline of the procedure.

Three 800Diamonds smile.gif I am seriously thinking to get a third 800Diamond was it worth the upgrade?

This one? http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-54-page-2

"The Classé CT-SSP is the first surround-sound processor I've used that I do not want to remove from this system, but I must—so impressive is its performance that an audition with my big Manhattan rig is a necessity. A report on this will be forthcoming"

Do you have the link with the three 800Diamonds and CT-SSP?
Edited by wse - 12/21/12 at 9:58pm
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post #5119 of 5475
12/22/12 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

It's pretty easy. See my review of the SSP in Stereophile for an outline of the procedure.
Your review of Classe and recommendation of XTZ EQ Anaylzer influenced my purchase of the Classe SSP-800, and it is truly thrilling to watch a few action movies (Bourne Legacy, newest Batman movie) on Blu-ray tonight! Even my wife was astounded how great the system sounded tonight! Certainly a very very worthwhile upgrade from my previous Preamp/Processor! smile.gif
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post #5120 of 5475
12/22/12 at 12:06am
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Did you do it yourself or have someone help you?
I had help!
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post #5121 of 5475
12/22/12 at 6:53am

CT-SSP discussion here:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-43-page-3

http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-45-page-3

 

However, the 800Ds did not arrive until later:

http://www.stereophile.com/content/bampw-800-diamond-loudspeaker

 

Also, there's more info on using the XTZ with a PEQ here in a review of the Rotel RSP-1572:

http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-53-page-2

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post #5122 of 5475
12/22/12 at 7:29am
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

CT-SSP discussion here:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-43-page-3
http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-45-page-3

However, the 800Ds did not arrive until later:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/bampw-800-diamond-loudspeaker

Also, there's more info on using the XTZ with a PEQ here in a review of the Rotel RSP-1572:
http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-53-page-2

Thank you great.

I was wondering if you crossover the 800D for movies and music. What crossover do you use. I find that crossing them over what THX recommend 80Hz is a waste of money since they can go down to 30Hz. In addition with the Classe CA-m600 there is plenty of power smile.gif
Edited by wse - 12/22/12 at 7:37am
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post #5123 of 5475
12/22/12 at 8:08am
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Thank you great.
I was wondering if you crossover the 800D for movies and music. What crossover do you use. I find that crossing them over what THX recommend 80Hz is a waste of money since they can go down to 30Hz. In addition with the Classe CA-m600 there is plenty of power smile.gif

Crossing them over to a sub is not a matter of any bass deficiency in the 800Ds (although a good sub does go lower) and, since the money is already spent, the concern is optimizing the sound.   Routing the bass into a sub permits the 800Ds to be better positioned for imaging while the sub(s) can be positioned and EQ-ed for bass only.  With adequate EQ, however, that is less significant than without.  80Hz works well but I go an octave lower to 40Hz for MCH music but use the 800Ds full-range (no sub) for stereo music.  There is no video in the system and, hence, no movies.

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post #5124 of 5475
12/22/12 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Crossing them over to a sub is not a matter of any bass deficiency in the 800Ds (although a good sub does go lower) and, since the money is already spent, the concern is optimizing the sound.   Routing the bass into a sub permits the 800Ds to be better positioned for imaging while the sub(s) can be positioned and EQ-ed for bass only.  With adequate EQ, however, that is less significant than without.  80Hz works well but I go an octave lower to 40Hz for MCH music but use the 800Ds full-range (no sub) for stereo music.  There is no video in the system and, hence, no movies.

Thank you Kal, I will do that and see how that works. I imagine three 800D for MCH must be superb, I am looking forward to three 800Diamond in the front then I am done unless I win the lottery. But since I don't play it is unlikely smile.gif
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post #5125 of 5475
12/26/12 at 4:40pm
What Multi-Channel amp do the owners of Classe SSP-800 preamp processor use? Be interested to hear the different combos.
I am using Theta Dreadnaught II. Seems like a good match. But love to know if others mainly use the Classe with Classe, or other combos.
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post #5126 of 5475
12/26/12 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by Bigmoviefan View Post

What Multi-Channel amp do the owners of Classe SSP-800 preamp processor use? Be interested to hear the different combos.
I am using Theta Dreadnaught II. Seems like a good match. But love to know if others mainly use the Classe with Classe, or other combos.

Using the Classe CT-M300 mono for my center channel, CT-2300 for the mains and an ADA PTM6150 to drive the surrounds. I had the Theta Dreadnaught II and PassLabs prior to the Classe amps.
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post #5127 of 5475
12/26/12 at 5:05pm
Using the McIntosh 207 amp. 200 watts, 7 channels, circuit for protection from overdriving the speakers, and shiny knobs and meters! Nice balance to the Classe sound but am curious too about how others are faring with their amps.
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post #5128 of 5475
12/26/12 at 6:19pm
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Using the Classe CT-M300 mono for my center channel, CT-2300 for the mains and an ADA PTM6150 to drive the surrounds. I had the Theta Dreadnaught II and PassLabs prior to the Classe amps.
How does the Classe amps sound compared to the Theta Dreadnaught II ? Very curious.
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post #5129 of 5475
12/26/12 at 6:37pm
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Originally Posted by Bigmoviefan View Post

How does the Classe amps sound compared to the Theta Dreadnaught II ? Very curious.

Depends on your tastes I suppose but I found them to be a huge step up from the Theta amps. Very neutral and a dead quiet noise floor. Tons of power and they run cool. They also interact with the SSP via CAN connection (the ethernet connection). Reports status, current temp, etc. They are meant to play together nicely. However, your speakers play an important part in this as well. For me, the Classe amps + Triad Platinums work very well together.
Edited by adidino - 12/26/12 at 7:05pm
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post #5130 of 5475
12/26/12 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by Bigmoviefan View Post

What Multi-Channel amp do the owners of Classe SSP-800 preamp processor use?
I had the CAV150 long before the SSP, now used for center and 4 surrounds. I added a similar vintage CA201 for the L/R. These are older "Dave Reich" designs, before he moved to Theta.

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