Official Classe SSP-800 thread. - Page 175

 

 

This is very strange, never had that problem and I also have a Furman 20A PFi but I don't have SAT or Cable

There's a game on tonight, so I will test whether the "Dolby Volume" feature is enhancing the noise generator or not.

Dave

After testing the levels again last night, it seems as thought the "Dolby Volume Leveler" feature does in fact have a bearing on the internal noise generator. If the 800's input that is active, has "Dolby Volume" enabled, it does increase the noise gen dB level.

Dave

If you can play it as loud as possible. Of course depending on how good your subs are you'll really like the opening scene of the movie.The SSP-800 brings out so many small details in the mix of this disc! It is one of my "show off" Blu-ray discs to demo the format.

+1 !

Try the Blu-ray "Dredd". It has a fantastic soundtrack in DTS-MA. Deep thunderous bass and great sound effects in the rear surrounds!

I am wondering if we can start a poll as to who would like Classé to incorporate Dolby Prologic IIz with wide for the SSP-800

PLIIz only adds height (and rear) outputs. For wides, you need Neo:X.

I'm happy without any of that.

 

Oh then in that case who cares, let's wait for M.D.A or Atmos

I'll probably give that a spin tonight! See if I can shake the house!

Dave

Let me know how you like it!

+1

This happened only once before, but the other day it happened for the second time. I turned on the SSP-800 using one of the F4 buttons not sure if it was the F3 (which I use the analog xlr's) or the F1 button (which I use for Bluray via HDMI, and after a fairly long period of the SSP-800 reading Initializing, a message appeared saying to unplug the unit and replug in a few minutes or something like that. I believe I am on the latest firmware 2.0.6. It did work fine after I did what it said to do. Actually I just turned it off using the button on the back of the unit for a few minutes. Curious if this has happened to anyone else, and if this is some thing I should be concerned about? Also am I on the latest firmware?

^^ I cannot say it never happened to me, but I cannot remember the last time, and it may have been with earlier FW -- possibly beta FW as I do a lot of testing. I'm also running the latest vintage, called 3.0.4 as it is for the HDMI 1.4 version.

Once in a long while I turn on the SSP with the F keys and the touchscreen lights, but remains blank. Just a normal "stand by" cycle fixes that.

I'm on my second CP-SSP and have had the new one for about 2 months. I use a Savant control system, so power on is via their control interface to the SSP. I didn't do the programming but I assume that Savant is just sending a "power on" command and not a function key. I have had once incident where the SSP froze on power up with the same error message as you got. It did take a hard power rest to fix it, as the unit was completely unresponsive at that point. My previous SSP did this more than once but it had other issues, so I discounted those faults as possibly being related to the same bad mother board that caused the unit to have to be replaced.

^^ Are both of you running the SSP from a UPS?

I power my system on with the IR input on the back panel. And last week, my SSP acted just as you described yours acting. Same error message. I unplugged the power cord from the back of the SSP, replugged it back in and everything has been fine, to this point.

Dave

Thanks for the responses, sounds like others have experienced the same issue. I can live with it if it's just an occasional occurrence. Sorry for my ignorance Roger, but by UPS do you mean a type of surge protector? I am using a Transparent power cleaner/surge protector.

Sometimes when I start it up (via serial) the OSD just says "Initializing" and I have to use the rear power switch to get rid of it.
Another error I get sometimes is something like "Stage 1.0.0.0.0 startup failed" or something like that, and I have to use the rear power switch.

Come to think of it I believe I saw that same error message and like you turning the rear power switch off for a minute or so resolved the problem. On a unrelated note I just watched/listened to an older Led Zeppelin dvd. It had concert footage from 4 different venues and times The first concert is the earliest (1970) at the Royal Albert Hall and than in Madison Square Garden (1973) but the one that impressed me the most was the third concert on the disc; the Earls Court performance and it's acoustical songs at the first part of that show (Acoustic doesn't come to mind when I think of Led Zeppelin) . It was just a dvd and DTS 5.1 but it sounded as good as an many bluray concerts including the most recent bluray concert release "Celebration Day" which was performed in 2007. Probably influenced by how much more powerful they sounded in there earlier days.

Yes, mine is on a Eaton UPS and Furman power conditioner in series.

Good. That eliminates the possibility that even though the SSP may be in standby, it may be irritated by a power glitch. I get the feeling that the SSP sleeps the same way a DVR sleeps. It stays on but plays possum.

Can someone pse assist ....I am having difficulty in setting up a SSP800 after the easy and flexible Lexicon MC12 menus ......

We have enabled Sub with a Xover of 80hz for one sub …...do we also have to enable Ebass ?The second sub has been allocated to Auxillary ……what is correct setting in Auxillary to run 1 sub out of SubOut and 1 sub out of Auxillary on MONO basis ???

Balance/other –apart from the balance setting in System Trim which is not permanent (such a pity) , is there any way one can (a ) Set balance of L/Rs ; adjust sub/rear speaker levels, etc specific to each mode rather than have a global setting for all modes ?
(Given no L/R balance control available , I guess I can resolve this by increasing the level of the Front left if this an issue ?)

Modes : I have following playback issues/queries ………
DVD via HDMI …this input has been set up as preferred mode Prologic ll Music …………when a Blu Ray with DTS True HD is playing , the system still shows
this as Prologic ll in the mode display, however if status window is checked ,this shows as a DTS True HD signal being received – is this only being being
shown as received , or is the processor actually decoding DTS TruHD without indicating this ???
The blu ray menu background music , appears to be in 2 channel and not pro logic as it should be and is set .

DVD- I have a blu ray disc not in DD or lossless format , but in PCM stereo it appears ……..on playback even if Prologic ll is enabled , why am I only getting
2 channel playback and how do I get the processor to decode to Prologic ll with all speakers functioning as they should in this mode setting ?

Digital Satellite : Pse see above, but this issue is with Dolby digital and am I actually getting DD ?? ……mode input display says Prologic ll , but status
reads incoming at 3+2.1- is processor decoding to DD ??
When I revert to a non DD satellite channel , I only get stereo and not Prologic ll – how do I get surround sound ?

AppleTV: I stream my music library to my Apple TV connected to the SSP800 via HDMI……….preferred mode set at is Prologic ll music ….all I get is two
channel playback – how do I get the processor to decode to prologic ll surround ???

Thank you ........!

No. Leave it off for now. Probably for ever.

>menu
>system setup
>speakers
>aux channels
>subs
>2 mono

Make sure to connect the 2nd sub to the A2 output.

It's not a pity, it's by design.

Yes. If you want to define different speaker gain relationships, you can build up to 6 different templates. They are called configurations. Each can store specifics about
--speaker complement, 2.0, 5.1, 7.2 ...
--speaker distance (useful for different audience sizes)
--speaker levels

If the balance offset is permanent, use the Configs. If the balance is for a particular program, use the remote's Trim option, which is temporary as you noted.

The SSP wants you to define the preferred surround processing for 2-ch sources separately from multi-channel sources, and to do so for each input:

>menu
>system setup
>input
>next input (unless you are adjusting input 1)
>audio
>fav. processing
choose your preference for 2-ch and for multi-ch

The status window tells you about the incoming source audio. The home display, at the bottom, shows the surround processing that was selected. Be advised that even when playing a 7.1 source, the display will still report PLIIx even though it cannot apply PLIIx to a 7.1 source. It is reporting what was requested, not what is always actually happening.

See above -- define PLII for the fave mode for that input.

When I get 5.1 DD from my DirecTV, the SSP status screen reports "Dolby Digital 3/2.1". The display can sometimes show different things even for "the same" types of sources. Are you sure that the satellite box is set to output a DD bitstream? Even so for DirecTV, when the source is stereo, it comes out as 2.0 PCM, not 2.0 DD. Are you using DISH or DirecTV?

Set the fave processing for 2.0 sources. This has to be done for each input. That way, you can default to PLII Music for stereo sources from AppleTV, and PLII Movie for stereo sources from TV, for example. If you want it to do that even with the same source (I play movies and music in my BD player, so I want different setups for each), build another virtual input calling the same source connections, but set the particular fave audio processing and/or Config to be applied.

Let us know how you make out.

As Roger has stated, the ability for multiple speaker configurations is quite useful.

Personally I have 4 different speaker configs, each one allocated to a specific input.

I have one for movie listening, which crosses my mains over at 80Hz and raises the center channel gain by 1dB, and the surround channels gains by 2dB. Another one set up for music listening, with the mains being crossed over at 60Hz, and all levels set to 74dB. Then a third config. that I use for 2 channel with no crossovers applied, and for room correction analysis. A forth config., but for some reason I can't remember what that one is set up to do!

Anyway, you get the picture!

Dave

 

Yes I do the same all levels set at 85db

 

1 Movies crossed over at 60HZ raise the SR and BC by 3db

 

2. Digital Music from Apple TV no crossover, PLIIx

 

3. Stereo XLR analogue no crossover, Direct

 

4 SACD Analogue no cross over

 

5. SACD Digital cross over at 40Hz

You set all your levels at 85dB, using the internal noise gen? I'm just curious as to the reason for setting at 85dB instead of 74 or 75dB.

Dave

 

Yes, THX level

When I first purchased the 800, I asked Mike Sheehan at Classe customer support, a question regarding the "Absolute" and "Relative" volume settings.

Here is the question I asked, followed by his response:

"I recently purchased an SSP-800. My question relates to the Volume levels. I have implemented the volume control function "relative". In the manual it states that the 0dB level, on the volume display, is based on the output level in movie theaters. What specifically is that dB level? I am trying to setup the multi channel output levels to be the same as digital levels. Everything is set at 75dB, using the wide band noise generator from the 800. I will be using a cal. disk to set individual levels for the multichannel inputs.My feeling is that 0dB , on the display, is actually 86dB. Is that the case?"

Mike's response:

"Thank you for purchasing Classe! I can confirm that 0dB on the Relative setting corresponds to 86dB output on the Absolute setting."

Just some food for thought.

Dave

 So this would mean to calibrate at 86db then!