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post #5311 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

I think Oppo means you send one HDMI direct to the display, and the other to the SSP. I think it is mainly so that AVR's and processors that are not HDMI 1.4 compliant can avoid clogging on 3D video. The SSP passes 3D video so no need for the dual outputs.

The SSP has 2 outputs, so you can feed the 2 displays that way.

I thought what they said in the manual was that to get the highest quality of audio via HDMI, up to 192k, one needs to split video into HDMI1 and Audio into HDMI2.

If I send video only to HDMI input of SSP, I can't hook up the audio from HDMI2 to that input.

If I send video only to the projector, I can't use SSP to switch between projector and TV.

That's the issue.
post #5312 of 5782
Once again last night I got the Initializing error message after a long period of the SSP-800's display showing "Initializing" This is the third time now, the last 2 times have been closer together. After rebooting it worked fine. This also happened after I had a problem with a Blockbuster bluray disc freezing about 40 minutes in. I restarted the disc and the same thing happened and the third time I got a "No Disc" message from my A1 player. This exact behavior also happened a week ago with another Blockbuster bd disc "Prometheus" I am wondering since the Blockbuster disc's state that they are for rental purposes only that this is what is causing my A1 source player not to play nice? I hate to think I am having another issue with my A1 after just getting it back from repair not to long ago. Needless to say it was some what of a frustrating night. By the way the "Moonrise Kingdom disc played fine on my Denon 3800 bd player in the bedroom which tells me I could be having another issue with the A1.
post #5313 of 5782
I also get the "Initializing" problem a lot nowadays, at least 2-3 times per week :/
I switch the SSP-800 on via serial and it runs firmware 3.0.2.
post #5314 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

I think Oppo means you send one HDMI direct to the display, and the other to the SSP. I think it is mainly so that AVR's and processors that are not HDMI 1.4 compliant can avoid clogging on 3D video. The SSP passes 3D video so no need for the dual outputs.

The SSP has 2 outputs, so you can feed the 2 displays that way.

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Originally Posted by ollegg View Post

I thought what they said in the manual was that to get the highest quality of audio via HDMI, up to 192k, one needs to split video into HDMI1 and Audio into HDMI2.

If I send video only to HDMI input of SSP, I can't hook up the audio from HDMI2 to that input.

If I send video only to the projector, I can't use SSP to switch between projector and TV.

That's the issue.

As Roger had stated, the versatility is there if needed, for pre 1.4 HDMI (3D capable) processors. Otherwise, using just one HDMI output from the 105 to the 800, would be sufficient. Here is an excerpt from Oppo's site:

"Ultimate Convenience:

Dual HDMI Outputs – Two HDMI v1.4a output ports are provided to offer the most versatile installation options to both older and newer HDMI equipment. You do not have to upgrade your A/V receiver to a 3D model in order to enjoy 3D. One HDMI output of the BDP-105 can be connected to a 3D TV and the other can be connected to a pre-3D HDMI v1.1-v1.3 A/V receiver. For projector users, you can connect one output to a projector for home theater use and the other to a TV for casual viewing. For a multi-room installation the BDP-105 can output audio and video to two 3D or 2D TVs simultaneously."

Hope this provides a bit more info for you.

Dave
post #5315 of 5782
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Originally Posted by buttecreeker View Post As Roger had stated, the versatility is there if needed, for pre 1.4 HDMI (3D capable) processors. Otherwise, using just one HDMI output from the 105 to the 800, would be sufficient. Here is an excerpt from Oppo's site:

"Ultimate Convenience:

Dual HDMI Outputs – Two HDMI v1.4a output ports are provided to offer the most versatile installation options to both older and newer HDMI equipment. You do not have to upgrade your A/V receiver to a 3D model in order to enjoy 3D. One HDMI output of the BDP-105 can be connected to a 3D TV and the other can be connected to a pre-3D HDMI v1.1-v1.3 A/V receiver. For projector users, you can connect one output to a projector for home theater use and the other to a TV for casual viewing. For a multi-room installation the BDP-105 can output audio and video to two 3D or 2D TVs simultaneously."

Hope this provides a bit more info for you.

Dave

Oppo is so cool :)

post #5316 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Oppo is so cool smile.gif

No kidding! As with Classe, a good company with a quality product and good support.
post #5317 of 5782
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Originally Posted by ollegg View Post

there's one more issue that's been bugging me. When switching between two inputs which have same Video connector but different Audio one, I lose video, and get "the green screen on death". Eg. I set up two inputs for Oppo 105, one with HDMI audio and another with XLR -- to compare the DACs on 105 and 800. When I switch between these two modes, I get the green screen. Any idea why and is it curable?
Do you mean the green screen is permanent? Or just flashes as it transitions to the other input? Transition effects are normal as the HDMI re-handshakes. Permanent is a problem.
post #5318 of 5782
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Originally Posted by urskog View Post

I also get the "Initializing" problem a lot nowadays, at least 2-3 times per week :/
I switch the SSP-800 on via serial and it runs firmware 3.0.2.
Same setup. It happened a few days ago, but I cannot remember the last time. Several months at least. Although if I travel >3 days, I shut its power off.
post #5319 of 5782
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Originally Posted by buttecreeker View PostNo kidding! As with Classe, a good company with a quality product and good support.

Agreed 100%

post #5320 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Same setup. It happened a few days ago, but I cannot remember the last time. Several months at least. Although if I travel >3 days, I shut its power off.

If my memory serves me right it happens when I switch from my 2-channel analog setup to the HDMI input, but I can't be 100% certain of that.
post #5321 of 5782
Hi all. I'm strongly considering a new SSP-800, and I had a few questions:

I plan to run all video switching through the SSP-800. Does it have any issues with hdmi handshake, or delay in locking onto audio?

How hot does it run?

I cant tell you how often I feel compelled to raise the center volume or increase/decrease side surround volume in my 7.1 setup. Is it easy to make trim adjustments on the fly?

Thanks much.
post #5322 of 5782
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Originally Posted by jeffkad View Post

Hi all. I'm strongly considering a new SSP-800, and I had a few questions:

I plan to run all video switching through the SSP-800. Does it have any issues with hdmi handshake, or delay in locking onto audio?

How hot does it run?

I cant tell you how often I feel compelled to raise the center volume or increase/decrease side surround volume in my 7.1 setup. Is it easy to make trim adjustments on the fly?

Thanks much.

- Video switching works fine

 

- 42C

 

- Trimming is very easy there is a button on the remote just for that :)

post #5323 of 5782
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Originally Posted by ollegg View Post

Another question. Oppo, for their 105, recommend dual HDMI output with HDMI 2 carrying audio only, but i could not configure the SSP's Input's audio connector to be another HDMI while taking video feed from HDMI 1. I know i could run just HDMI 2 into the SSP-800 only, but i wanted to run the video through the SSP to switch between projector and plasma. Thank you.

I have since day 1 run my Oppo BDP-105 dual HDMI. HDMI 1 straight to the projector, and HDMI 2 into the SSP-800 HDMI input 1. That is supposed to give you the best video and audio feed using the Oppo's processing. The SSP just passes the signal thru anyway with no processing. I have had a few different players through my SSP-800, and I love the sound of the Oppo 105 into the SSP-800!
post #5324 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View PostI have since day 1 run my Oppo BDP-105 dual HDMI. HDMI 1 straight to the projector, and HDMI 2 into the SSP-800 HDMI input 1. That is supposed to give you the best video and audio feed using the Oppo's processing. The SSP just passes the signal thru anyway with no processing. I have had a few different players through my SSP-800, and I love the sound of the Oppo 105 into the SSP-800!

I do the same with the BDP-95, did you have the 95 before and if yes how does it compare to the 105

post #5325 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Do you mean the green screen is permanent? Or just flashes as it transitions to the other input? Transition effects are normal as the HDMI re-handshakes. Permanent is a problem.

Permanent. Until I switch to another Input with a different HDMI video in.
post #5326 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

I have since day 1 run my Oppo BDP-105 dual HDMI. HDMI 1 straight to the projector, and HDMI 2 into the SSP-800 HDMI input 1. That is supposed to give you the best video and audio feed using the Oppo's processing. The SSP just passes the signal thru anyway with no processing. I have had a few different players through my SSP-800, and I love the sound of the Oppo 105 into the SSP-800!

Forgive me for probably stating the obvious, but if you run HMDI video directly to your display unit, then you've lost the convenience of simultaneous audio/video switching, no? I have an OPPO BDP-95. Are you saying that HDMI 2 provides a better audio output?
post #5327 of 5782
I know this OT on this forum but there's not a lot of activity on the A1 forum these days. I recently have had a couple of instances with Blockbuster bluray rentals where the picture would freeze at some point (Prometheus & Moonrise Kingdom) the first one played after a a hard reboot. The second one kept freezing up so I just finally opted to watch it on my Denon 3800 bd player in the bedroom. By the way both disc's after freezing, when I started them over to see if they would play both disc's gave me a "No Disc" message in the display, however like I mentioned I got the Prometheus disc to play after a reboot. I have not had any problems with disc's that I bought and was wondering if this might have something to do with the fact that they were rentals? I also noticed a rental message that comes on at the beginning of each of the rental disc's with some sort of disclaimer but did not pay much attention to it.
post #5328 of 5782
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Originally Posted by jeffkad View Post Forgive me for probably stating the obvious, but if you run HMDI video directly to your display unit, then you've lost the convenience of simultaneous audio/video switching, no? I have an OPPO BDP-95. Are you saying that HDMI 2 provides a better audio output?

Nope just that I like direct paths better :)

 

- Oppo HDMi 1 to JVC-RS35U

- Oppo HDMi 2 to Classé SSP-800

 

I have a small 23 inch monitor plugged into the Classé so I can use Apple TV for my music library for background music :)

post #5329 of 5782
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Originally Posted by jeffkad View Post

Forgive me for probably stating the obvious, but if you run HMDI video directly to your display unit, then you've lost the convenience of simultaneous audio/video switching, no? I have an OPPO BDP-95. Are you saying that HDMI 2 provides a better audio output?

Per the instuctions in the Oppo BDP-105 manual. That is the "preferred method" in hooking up the player. Not necessarily better but it allows the Oppo's Sabre Dac to be used.
post #5330 of 5782
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Originally Posted by ollegg View Post

Permanent. Until I switch to another Input with a different HDMI video in.
Ahh. Well, then that is a problem.

I still recommend contacting Classe tech support.

If you want to try some fiddling, have a look at the Oppo's HDMI video output resolution setting. Is it set to automatic or to a fixed resolution? If automatic, try a fixed setting.

Also look at the deep color setting. Try setting to Off if not already.

If you can find a dependency, that is good info for Classe.
post #5331 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post


Per the instuctions in the Oppo BDP-105 manual. That is the "preferred method" in hooking up the player. Not necessarily better but it allows the Oppo's Sabre Dac to be used.

Neither HDMI output involves the use of a DAC in the Oppo.

post #5332 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

Ahh. Well, then that is a problem.

I still recommend contacting Classe tech support.

If you want to try some fiddling, have a look at the Oppo's HDMI video output resolution setting. Is it set to automatic or to a fixed resolution? If automatic, try a fixed setting.

Also look at the deep color setting. Try setting to Off if not already.

If you can find a dependency, that is good info for Classe.

Thank you Roger. I'll try these and let you know.
post #5333 of 5782
Does anyone know if rental bluray disc's, especially one's that come through the mail, can cause your bluray player to have problems like freezing in the middle of the movie? I have had a couple issues with rental bluray disc's. Although all the one's I own have worked fine. Could it be something to do with added copyright protection that is on these disc's? I realize that this may not be the correct forum for this but with level of expertise of some of the participants on this forum I was hoping somebody might know something about this.
post #5334 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Nope just that I like direct paths better smile.gif

- Oppo HDMi 1 to JVC-RS35U
- Oppo HDMi 2 to Classé SSP-800

I have a small 23 inch monitor plugged into the Classé so I can use Apple TV for my music library for background music smile.gif

I don't think this is recommended for audio purposes, my understanding is it is intended for AVPs that can't pass 3D or handle HDMI 1.4 where the projector or display can.

Also wanted to point out that the video processing in the Oppo 103/105 is so good it can be used as the video switch. The video processing in the Oppo is probably better than what's in most AVPs, so running your game console and cable/sat receiver through the Oppo will often improve the video quality to the level where an external video processor is no longer necessary.
post #5335 of 5782
This is slightly OT, but is related to the subj. would be very grateful for an advice. Thank you
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1461849/matching-5-channels-to-classe-ca2300#post_23045760
post #5336 of 5782
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Originally Posted by mt14942 View Post

Does anyone know if rental bluray disc's, especially one's that come through the mail, can cause your bluray player to have problems like freezing in the middle of the movie?
Yes. Happened to me twice. Returned for new disc, and it played fine.
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I have had a couple issues with rental bluray disc's. Although all the one's I own have worked fine. Could it be something to do with added copyright protection that is on these disc's? I realize that this may not be the correct forum for this but with level of expertise of some of the participants on this forum I was hoping somebody might know something about this.
If it was copy protection, it would play poorly for each disc. I figured it was somehow damaged, but it looked flawless to the eye.
post #5337 of 5782
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Originally Posted by ksalno View PostI don't think this is recommended for audio purposes, my understanding is it is intended for AVPs that can't pass 3D or handle HDMI 1.4 where the projector or display can.

Also wanted to point out that the video processing in the Oppo 103/105 is so good it can be used as the video switch. The video processing in the Oppo is probably better than what's in most AVPs, so running your game console and cable/sat receiver through the Oppo will often improve the video quality to the level where an external video processor is no longer necessary.

I don't have a game console, or cable TV so my set-up suits me just fine :)

post #5338 of 5782
Hello All!

I've never posted on this forum before. I'm an owner of an SSP 800 with the dual DSP and HDMI 1.4. I was hoping to get some advise from the forum members on a problem I'm having with it.

I came home Friday night and found it in the blue LED light flashing mode, and it would not start up. I suspect I had a power outage or power surge while I was at work. I've tried several things to try to get it out of the blue flashing mode, which I'll outline below, but have not had any success. Any suggestions?

What I've done so far:

Turned the back switch off, and then back on.
Turned the back switch off, disconnected the power cord for a few minutes, plugged it back in, and then flipped the back switch back on.
Turned the back switch off, reloaded the software (3.0.2 Build 0102.pkg).
Disconnected the power cord for 15 minutes, and then powered it back on.

I've sent an e-mail to Classe technical support, but it's the weekend, so I'm sure they're closed.

Any advise?
Thanks,
Dave
post #5339 of 5782
Dave,

I can't think of anything else that you haven't done. I'm surprised you were able to reload the software successfully, because this seems like a hardware problem of some type. Unfortunately, Classe tech support is probably the only option. I had to have my CT-800 replaced shortly after I bought it and they were very easy to work with.

Karl
post #5340 of 5782
Probably putting my SSP-800 up for sale in the next few days if anyone's interested in a used unit...
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