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post #5521 of 5782
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Originally Posted by buttecreeker View Post

I contacted Classe last year, and this is what they said:

"Hello

The SSP-800 will draw 55 watts @120 volts when in standby. The reason it may look high is that the video board stays active because of the video pass-through. Also, if you power off the SSP-800 by the back switch, you will systematically loose all user settings unless you archive them and reload them every time you will boot up.

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That is not correct. I'm surprised someone from Classe would even state that, It's not accurate.
post #5522 of 5782
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

That is not correct. I'm surprised someone from Classe would even state that, It's not accurate.

Just relaying what response I received from Classe. Do you happen to know the power draw when in "Standby" mode?
post #5523 of 5782
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Originally Posted by buttecreeker View Post

Just relaying what response I received from Classe. Do you happen to know the power draw when in "Standby" mode?
On that, I find Carl's reply quite credible. 55 W, which is just 1/3 less than operating power, 75 W.
post #5524 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

On that, I find Carl's reply quite credible. 55 W, which is just 1/3 less than operating power, 75 W.

So that is why the SSP-800 is always warm and hover at 43 degree celsius in standby!
post #5525 of 5782
Any one of you use the AntiMode ?
post #5526 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Any one of you use the AntiMode ?
What is Antimode?
post #5527 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Any one of you use the AntiMode ?

I had it when i was using the Bryston Sp3. It did the job but I can't say I loved it.

You have a peq anyway. No real need for it.
post #5528 of 5782
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

I had it when i was using the Bryston Sp3. It did the job but I can't say I loved it.

You have a peq anyway. No real need for it.

Supposedly the Antimode has better correction tha what can be done with th PEQ in the SSP-800!
post #5529 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post


Supposedly the Antimode has better correction tha what can be done with th PEQ in the SSP-800!

 

I do not think that is a fair statement. The original AntiMode is an automatic EQ while the SSP-800 is a programmable EQ. The success with the latter is user dependent.
post #5530 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View PostI do not think that is a fair statement. The original AntiMode is an automatic EQ while the SSP-800 is a programmable EQ. The success with the latter is user dependent.

Yes but I read that the Anti Mode had a lot more EQ Bands.

 

http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/anti-mode-8033.shtml

post #5531 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Yes but I read that the Anti Mode had a lot more EQ Bands.

http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/anti-mode-8033.shtml
Sure but the operational difference is significant. As with other tasks, it is not only the tools that matter; it is the skill of the user.
post #5532 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Sure but the operational difference is significant. As with other tasks, it is not only the tools that matter; it is the skill of the user.

Agreed 100%, the problem is having a very good calibrator that can extract every thing out of the machine, not trivial
post #5533 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Agreed 100%, the problem is having a very good calibrator that can extract every thing out of the machine, not trivial
Considering what you have already invested, that might be a wise choice.
post #5534 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Considering what you have already invested, that might be a wise choice.

Yes, meaning? Can you recommend anyone you know, please send me a pm
post #5535 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Yes, meaning? Can you recommend anyone you know, please send me a pm

Call or email Jeff Meier. Goes by UMR on the forum. He does audio calibration around the country based on a scheduled tour and knows the Classe very well.
post #5536 of 5782
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Originally Posted by adidino View Post

Call or email Jeff Meier. Goes by UMR on the forum. He does audio calibration around the country based on a scheduled tour and knows the Classe very well.
What kind of improvement might one expect?
post #5537 of 5782
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Originally Posted by crtguy View Post

What kind of improvement might one expect?

Depends on your current conditions. He will measure the room and determine where adjustments are needed.
post #5538 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Agreed 100%, the problem is having a very good calibrator that can extract every thing out of the machine, not trivial
A year ago you showed me a cal report from 2011. It lists 2 JL subs, one front, one rear, and implies both subs are driven in tandem, which is good. It shows 2 bass resonances dialed out:

#2 -29.0db,Q=9,60Hz
#3 -23.5db,Q=6,30Hz

I presume if you turn these EQ bands off, the sound does not improve. I also presume this works better than the single-band correction JL's ARO can provide.

The report shows that the overall system response is pretty much a flat line 20 Hz - 20 kHz. Pretty, but is that ideal?

I wonder if your issue is not the removal of the room's bass resonances, but that the tuning does not reflect your desired "house curve". For example, if you were to prefer a response something along the lines shown below (which is much more to my liking than "flat"), I could see that you will enjoy some different bass tuning. But Anti Mode will not get you there.

So the road to a solution might best start with an articulation of the perceived problem.

post #5539 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

A year ago you showed me a cal report from 2011. It lists 2 JL subs, one front, one rear, and implies both subs are driven in tandem, which is good. It shows 2 bass resonances dialed out:

#2 -29.0db,Q=9,60Hz
#3 -23.5db,Q=6,30Hz

I presume if you turn these EQ bands off, the sound does not improve. I also presume this works better than the single-band correction JL's ARO can provide.

I wonder if your issue is not the removal of the room's bass resonances, but that the tuning does not reflect your desired "house curve". For example, if you were to prefer a response something along the lines shown below (which is much more to my liking than "flat"), I could see that you will enjoy some different bass tuning. But Anti Mode will not get you there.

So the road to a solution might best start with an articulation of the perceived problem.


Yes Roger, you are so good and what a memory, since then w have changed the room by adding a very large built in bookshelf with at least 100 books! The speakers have changed as well the new center channel is an 800 Diamond 2 which makes the front three 800 Diamond 2, and we now have four 802D1 surround with the two JL Audio subs, so the room needs to get recallibrated!
post #5540 of 5782
William,

I have an XTZ kit. It is pretty simple to use and it will tell you what PEQ settings to use for the subwoofer. Would you like to borrow or buy it? PM if so.
post #5541 of 5782
Hello all,

I'm wondering if I can ask a couple questions. Please forgive me for not reading the entire thread - it's huge.

1) I would like to know if there has been any upgrade to the SSP-800 software that would give a better status report on the audio stream currently playing. On my unit, I get the number of channels and the sample rate, but not the bit depth. I'm migrating over to playing MKV files instead of blu-rays and want to be sure I'm getting the correct audio.

I was going to update the firmware and check for myself, but that leads to my second question:

2) How do I tell if I have the dual-DSP unit or the single one (i.e. HDMI 1.3 vs 1.4)? I think I have the latter as at one point I had to send my unit back to Classe for repair and upgraded to a new version that supports 3D, but I'd like to be sure before I attempt to update the firmware and potentially mess things up!

Thanks in advance.
Ian
post #5542 of 5782
Jeff calibrated my Classe amongst other things. I have had many people come in over the years and he's in a league by himself. Absolutely incredible. You'll notice an improvement guaranteed
post #5543 of 5782
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Originally Posted by jnp31 View Post

Thank you very much. I'll try it and let you know how it goes

I shipped out my SSP-800 from Windsor on 7/3 and got it back on 7/10. It was a defect on the main board regarding the mute function. Once mute was pressed on the remote it couldn't be "unmuted". Firmware upgrade completed too. If anyone lives close to the boarder and can ship from Canada, its infinitely faster than shipping from US. Mike Sheehan has a new role and has been replaced by Carl who is excellent
post #5544 of 5782
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Originally Posted by jnp31 View Post

I shipped out my SSP-800 from Windsor on 7/3 and got it back on 7/10. It was a defect on the main board regarding the mute function. Once mute was pressed on the remote it couldn't be "unmuted". Firmware upgrade completed too. If anyone lives close to the boarder and can ship from Canada, its infinitely faster than shipping from US. Mike Sheehan has a new role and has been replaced by Carl who is excellent

What is Mike's new role, do you have Carl's email?
post #5545 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Ian_Currie View Post

1) I would like to know if there has been any upgrade to the SSP-800 software that would give a better status report on the audio stream currently playing.
No.
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2) How do I tell if I have the dual-DSP unit or the single one (i.e. HDMI 1.3 vs 1.4)?
Check the current installed firmware version. If it is 2.0.6, it is HDMI 1.3. If it is 3.0.2, it is HDMI 1.4.

>Menu
>Status
>Version

The first digit is the one that tells the tale. If you do not have the latest version, list 3.0.1, then you need to update to 3.0.2.

Or just look at the rear panel. If it has 5 HDMI inputs, is it 1.4.
post #5546 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

No.
Check the current installed firmware version. If it is 2.0.6, it is HDMI 1.3. If it is 3.0.2, it is HDMI 1.4.

>Menu
>Status
>Version

The first digit is the one that tells the tale. If you do not have the latest version, list 3.0.1, then you need to update to 3.0.2.

Or just look at the rear panel. If it has 5 HDMI inputs, is it 1.4.

Thank you very much, Roger.
post #5547 of 5782
Jeff meier came to my house in December this last year in Cincinnati. Calibrated my plasma and classe. I totally recommend him... He was basically like a super knowledgeable house guest for over four hours! Taught me solo much. Biggest improvement for me was plasma picture quality and sub integration with my speakers and room acoustics. Very much worth the money from an education standpoint alone, and you also have your system working better than ever before.
post #5548 of 5782
Question: when using pure direct, does that mean all processing is bypassed and the SSP-800 just act as a volume control, yes?
post #5549 of 5782
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Question: when using pure direct, does that mean all processing is bypassed and the SSP-800 just act as a volume control, yes?
I do not think there is a pure direct mode by that name. For 2-ch content there is Stereo, and for multichannel sources there is Discrete. These do not apply any surround processing, but bass management and EQ remain active. The only way to defeat those is to change the setup to defeat EQ and set the bass management accordingly.

The 7.1 analog input, however, is always pure direct.
post #5550 of 5782
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View PostI do not think there is a pure direct mode by that name. For 2-ch content there is Stereo, and for multichannel sources there is Discrete. These do not apply any surround processing, but bass management and EQ remain active. The only way to defeat those is to change the setup to defeat EQ and set the bass management accordingly.
Discrete is what I mean!

The 7.1 analog input, however, is always pure direct.
Yes that's what I use for Multichannel music :)
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