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post #211 of 4430
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Originally Posted by xanvil View Post

Apparently, hardware acceleration and color adjustments are incompatible.


michael

Isn't it always like that? In the case of HA, the videocard does the decoding so it's up to the videocard to do colour adjustments. You'd have to set those with your video driver settings and/or 3rd party program that interfaces at low or driver level to change those things within the videocard.

Same goes for de-interlacing when playing back DVDs... If you select hardware decode/accelerate, you can't possibly get software deinterlacing.
post #212 of 4430
Wow with over 40 "issues" on the first page, I'm wondering if I should even try this software out.. Granted a lot of those issues look like ones related to XP/Vista/ATi stuff but there seem to be a lot of audio complaints. I hate PDVD as it is, but ATMT doesn't really seem like an upwards move yet either--seems like you just exchange one set of problems for another

What's the deal with the mention Nero though? I didn't know you could watch HD-DVD/Blu-Ray with Nero?
post #213 of 4430
I really can't understand you all.
Powerdvd is one of the crappiest player ever ...that still can't play dvds right (no bass management, no AR management, no vmr9 renderless fullscreen ....) after more than 10 years ...
The arcsoft player is just released, has a few bugs and everybody turns this thread into a bashing party when vidabox posts here.
Goob job guys, and good luck now to have answers ...
post #214 of 4430
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

try Nero 8 and showtime... I LIKE it


It can play HD-DVD and BRD+ in EVR??
post #215 of 4430
I found that using hardware acceleration on my ATi 2400pro does not work correctly as its very jerky under Vista Ultimate X86 also the MediaCenter plug in worked but the playback is even more jittery.

I know this has been talked about before but I am wondering if there is a fix for this yet?
post #216 of 4430
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Originally Posted by ES_Revenge View Post

Isn't it always like that? In the case of HA, the videocard does the decoding so it's up to the videocard to do colour adjustments. You'd have to set those with your video driver settings and/or 3rd party program that interfaces at low or driver level to change those things within the videocard.

Perhaps you are right!

I had not seen a flat statement before that to use hardware acceleration is to forego use of video adjustments except on the system level. Clearly that is not a particularly good thing since it means leaving the player software to adjust color. It is equally clear that software players provide color controls within the software specifically to avoid having to use system wide adjustments. You would think that they could adjust settings for the video driver from within the software and reset them up on exiting the player.

It is also undesirable to use display controls to adjust color. People spend significant sums to have a display calibrated and would be hesitant to tamper with settings. If the display allows you to set the calibrated settings as a default, then that can be done safely, but it means setting and then resetting the display after each film.

I will be interested to see if this is indeed part of the price for hardware acceleration.


michael
post #217 of 4430
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Originally Posted by tristartristan View Post

It can play HD-DVD and BRD+ in EVR??

It has it's own renderer according to mk....... sorry can't remember his name now.

It's very good. The best I've ever seen for HDM on HTPC IMO.
post #218 of 4430
I'm running both PowerDVD (33516) and the Arcsoft Trial (2.1.6.105), so far Arcsoft has played every disk I have and has much better integration with Vista Media Centre. I'm using it with an ATi 2600pro without any problems.

Could I suggest putting a note at the top of the defects list saying that these a potential problems (I use an X-plosion soundcard) and does not mean the product is crap or something to that effect. When you first start this thread it gives the impression that this product is full of holes and a lot more buggy than PowerDVD.

I've ditched PowerDVD already and am looking to move to Arcsoft at the end of the 15 day trial.
post #219 of 4430
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Originally Posted by xma1e View Post

I'm running both PowerDVD (33516) and the Arcsoft Trial (2.1.6.105), so far Arcsoft has played every disk I have and has much better integration with Vista Media Centre. I'm using it with an ATi 2600pro without any problems.

Could I suggest putting a note at the top of the defects list saying that these a potential problems (I use an X-plosion soundcard) and does not mean the product is crap or something to that effect. When you first start this thread it gives the impression that this product is full of holes and a lot more buggy than PowerDVD.

I've ditched PowerDVD already and am looking to move to Arcsoft at the end of the 15 day trial.


It seems to all depend on your system. For me Arcsoft won't even load (the Japanese trial was OK though; not really any better than PDVD or MPC though) and PDVD is "acceptable". Nero ShowTime turned out to be the "holy grail" I've been searching for. I finally have HTPC playback that matches my SAs. However, people with very similar setups to mine have as many troubles with ST as I have with PDVD or TMT. It seems you just have to find what's best for you and go with it. I do suggest trying out ST before you commit to TMT though. I just wish the AnyDVD people would make a player that HTPC users crave. I think they understand us and would do it right. Hopefully they are right now. However, after watching Zodiac from HDD through ST tonight I am about as pleased as possible. If AnyDVD could do better we'd be in heaven.
post #220 of 4430
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Originally Posted by xma1e View Post

I'm running both PowerDVD (33516) and the Arcsoft Trial (2.1.6.105), so far Arcsoft has played every disk I have and has much better integration with Vista Media Centre. I'm using it with an ATi 2600pro without any problems.

Could I suggest putting a note at the top of the defects list saying that these a potential problems (I use an X-plosion soundcard) and does not mean the product is crap or something to that effect. When you first start this thread it gives the impression that this product is full of holes and a lot more buggy than PowerDVD.

I've ditched PowerDVD already and am looking to move to Arcsoft at the end of the 15 day trial.

Could you explain what you really like about MC to me? I'm not trying to be confrontational, but I just don't see the draw. It seems to me that careful organization on your HDDs gives you the same thing w/o a fancy interface in less time through some simple shortcuts and the proper associations. Maybe I just don't store enough content on my servers to understand.
post #221 of 4430
I have the 3.0 version that came with my TV tuner card. I really like the software that came with the card as a media center. Does the HD DVD/bluray integrate right in with the rest of its media center program or is it a seperate program that must be loaded externally? I don't mean bought - I understand that.

The other option would be to set up J River to use it for DVD playback.

I am using xp pro sp2 which doesn't come with a MC so I have been religated to either xlobby, media portal... I have become comfortable with JRiver... but if Arcsoft Media center will work just as well as include HDm playback....
post #222 of 4430
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

It seems to all depend on your system. For me Arcsoft won't even load (the Japanese trial was OK though; not really any better than PDVD or MPC though) and PDVD is "acceptable". Nero ShowTime turned out to be the "holy grail" I've been searching for. I finally have HTPC playback that matches my SAs. However, people with very similar setups to mine have as many troubles with ST as I have with PDVD or TMT. It seems you just have to find what's best for you and go with it. I do suggest trying out ST before you commit to TMT though. I just wish the AnyDVD people would make a player that HTPC users crave. I think they understand us and would do it right. Hopefully they are right now. However, after watching Zodiac from HDD through ST tonight I am about as pleased as possible. If AnyDVD could do better we'd be in heaven.

So you have gotten Nero Showtime to work well with HD? I have it instaled for my SD for DVD playback... I already have the plugin in Nero 8. Is this a good option then. I have always discounted it because no one ever talks about it.
post #223 of 4430
Has anyone noticed a dif in video sharpness with the Powerdvd and Total Media Theater? I might be imaganing it but I think that the Power DVD is sharper.
tia,
Ron
post #224 of 4430
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Originally Posted by bjmarchini View Post

So you have gotten Nero Showtime to work well with HD? I have it instaled for my SD for DVD playback... I already have the plugin in Nero 8. Is this a good option then. I have always discounted it because no one ever talks about it.


I was the same until I tried it. Check out the alternative thread. It works perfect and has the best PQ IMO. Give me a PM and maybe I can help you out.

You need to use an old version of the navigator to make it right, but once you make the switch and get rid of unneeded files in your rips there's nothing better IMO. I just hope they add BD+ playback and get everything needed in one version then it wil be supreme.
post #225 of 4430
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Originally Posted by ellisr63 View Post

Has anyone noticed a dif in video sharpness with the Powerdvd and Total Media Theater? I might be imaganing it but I think that the Power DVD is sharper.
tia,
Ron

Try Nero ShowTime.

Not much difference between MPC, PDVD and TMT here, but ST gave me a new perspective for HTPC playback.
post #226 of 4430
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

Try Nero ShowTime.

Not much difference between MPC, PDVD and TMT here, but ST gave me a new perspective for HTPC playback.

I already have the full 8 with the plugin for $25 already. too bad their "Media Center" is really bloated and a bit "outdated". I do like Nero alot though. The only thing I have never liked is that I have never been able to get it pass along DTS or DD without it trying to convert it. It always wants to send it out via PCM. When I use Nero, I end up just using 6 channel analog out which is fine.... but I like the DTS better and often use FFDShow.

I know alot of people here will disagree, but I agree that Nero does seem to have the best commercial video decoder on the market and thier interface is sooooo easy to use.
post #227 of 4430
I cant believe ive waited since Oct 2007 for this...lol

And now it doesn't work on my Vista x64 system , plus all the bugs im reading about...hehe

i recall some peeps not getting to excited about the new HD player (count your chickens... sort of thing)

And they were sooooooo right !!!!
post #228 of 4430
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Originally Posted by tsb View Post

Could you explain what you really like about MC to me? I'm not trying to be confrontational, but I just don't see the draw. It seems to me that careful organization on your HDDs gives you the same thing w/o a fancy interface in less time through some simple shortcuts and the proper associations. Maybe I just don't store enough content on my servers to understand.

Hi tsb, no worries, I see where you're coming from.

I have a PC dedicated to HTPC and nothing else. I have it plugged straight into an LCD TV, it sit's in the main living room and it has replaced my standalone DVD, CD, and VCR.

For me, MC is the best front-end useable by remote control. It's by no means perfect, but I'm yet to find anything better. I recently brought a new Thermaltake DH 101 case which comes with the iMON remote and iMEDIAN front-end, I'm yet to try this, but early indication is the remote is "naff", so I'm using the MCE remote again.

I play a mixture of AVI files, TV recorded content, and now Blu-Ray. PowerDVD doesn't work well with the MCE remote so all the BD (mainly fox) have a pop-up menu which I have to get of my backside/sofa and use the mouse. With Arcsoft, it supports pop-up menu in the remote.

I also made sure my PC passed Cyberlinks HD Advisor, so I think that may help with reducing problems, but please don't quote me on that as I can only comment on my own system.

Hope that explains a little.

X
post #229 of 4430
Installed and tried the trial.. it pixelates heavily on any Blu-ray titles, especially during the menus. Picture quality is terrible on HD-DVD as well. I think I'll wait until a more updated trial becomes available.
post #230 of 4430
OK, I guess a simple answer is needed for a simple person! I am using a new HP Media Center PC dedicated to HT. It has the Q6000 CPU, 3gig, GeForce 8400 with DVI and HDMI out. I am using HDMI to Yamaha VZ2600, then to Mits WD73827 DLP.

I have been fighting with Power DVD Ultra full retail. Choppy video and only 2ch stereo.

After reading this thread, I realized I already had Nero 8 Ultra. So I loaded it and used Showtime to view a SD DVD. Perfect. So I purchased and download the HD plugin. Now, I get a message "Your video output connection does not permit playback". So now ST will not play back SD, let alone HD DVDs.

Can anyone help? Nero has been updated to the latest version.

Thanks.
Gene
post #231 of 4430
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Originally Posted by TokyoShoe View Post

Installed and tried the trial.. it pixelates heavily on any Blu-ray titles, especially during the menus. Picture quality is terrible on HD-DVD as well. I think I'll wait until a more updated trial becomes available.

Strange... my picture is excellent
post #232 of 4430
I purchased the retail version of TotalMedia Theatre (TMT) and am having problems playing BR discs. I decided on TMT after reading all the negative feedback on PowerDVD.
I'm using LG's combo drive and below are my system specs.

MOBO- MSI’s SK-T QUAD ATX P35 NEO2-FR MSI
Intel CORE 2 DUO E6750 2.66
2 GB DDR2 800 MHZ PC2 6400 RAM
GeForce 8800 GTS 320 MB (latest driver 169.21)
LG BR/HD DVD(GGC-H20L) with latest firmware (1.02)
320 GB hard drive
Samsung SyncMaster 245BW 24" LCD Monitor (3000:1, HDCP, 1920x1200 res)
Windows XP (SP2)

I put in a movie and 1-2 min into play the movie stops, screen goes black, pc shuts down (a blue screen with info flashes up before complete shut down and reboot). This happens sporadically, someitme just navigating through the menus.


I'm updated with the most recent video driver (169.21) and LG's latest firmware (1.02).

I’ve tried the PowerDVD software that came with the drive (updated version) and don’t seem to have a problem with the BR. Should I just use PowerDVD? I would like to stick with TMT since I’ve already shelled out the money.

Does anyone use TMT with this drive and are having problems with BR?? Any ideas? I'm tired of spending money.
post #233 of 4430
I've only tried two BDs - one worked, the other only plays the menu in TMT. BOTH work fine in PowerDVD.
post #234 of 4430
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Originally Posted by xma1e View Post

I'm running both PowerDVD (33516) and the Arcsoft Trial (2.1.6.105), so far Arcsoft has played every disk I have and has much better integration with Vista Media Centre. I'm using it with an ATi 2600pro without any problems.

Could I suggest putting a note at the top of the defects list saying that these a potential problems (I use an X-plosion soundcard) and does not mean the product is crap or something to that effect. When you first start this thread it gives the impression that this product is full of holes and a lot more buggy than PowerDVD.

I've ditched PowerDVD already and am looking to move to Arcsoft at the end of the 15 day trial.

I don't think so.
If somebody has a bug and I say it might work, they might blame me.

ellisr63,

With my detail_def registry tweak, I find it to be too sharp when I watch reservoir dogs, but just right with all my other bluray and hddvd movies.

It works for me, with all my high def movies, and sound sounds fine on my pc 2 speakers. So it's not got one problem for me with high def movies.

I prefer it to pdvdu.

I looked at the nero thread and it's not for me.
You have to fiddle with this, and that. Use this part and match it with this. Does it play bd+. Too many fiddly bits.

I'm not convinced the pq of nero is better than I have it with arcsoft.
They don't use the reg tweak, I do, and for this reason I don't feel the pq would be much greater.
On Hitchhikers guide, the picture was phenomenal using arcsoft.
Pq is not a concern for me if I use arcsoft.

gsteele,

Maybe try Vista 32 bit.
post #235 of 4430
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Originally Posted by sarah99 View Post

Showtime crashes for me every time I open the directory menu.
Funny thing is, it seems to crash because of a programme I have installed called "EmailMonitor" that blocks email at a low level
(after a nasty spamming virus I had). Makes you wonder who is showtime trying to email? and what information is it trying to send?

Link

This is of interest to me.
It seems that Nero Showtime has tracking/usage stats emailed to some database server.
Like legal adware.

So, if you don't mind the possiblity that your being monitored. nero showtime looks better and better.
post #236 of 4430
What will happen after the trial ver has been installed for 15 days? Will I be able to reinstall it (or hopefully a newer bugfixed version) or will I have to buy in order to see if newer versions have the bugs fixed?

PS I'm fairly pleased with the software so far. BD/HD discs play fine on it, although Transformers HD gets a bit chuggy at times.
post #237 of 4430
Arc has a backdoor updater and tonight I can't access different audio. I'll reboot and see. Only DD 640kbps AC/DCDonnington

In a minute.
They're on the Highway to Hell
post #238 of 4430
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Originally Posted by almostinsane View Post

Half that list has nothing to do with Arcsoft. Way to crap on a company for nothing they can fix.

This from the list is crap:

1
10 (Vista issue, fixed in SP 1)
11
16
19
26
29
40 (This isn't even a problem)
41
43 (Yeah, this is helpful)
47 (This isn't a problem)

Yeah, it's kind of a mess to figure out what's real.

The other one that's there alot is BD+ playback from harddrive. Way to shoot the messenger. BD+ spec is only to play from optical disc. If they want to support it they they have to follow the spec for legal reasons, not technical. Tough choice given the rumor that cyberlink got kicked in the nutz (to the tune of big $) for not following the BD+ spec. Don't like BD+ rules, then exercise your right to not buy BD+ products, not buy BD at all, or complain to the BD guys. But don't blame the player software cuz anyone who signs on for the decryption keys is going to be in the same boat.
post #239 of 4430
Heart Alive won'tplay. PDVD ok DD 5.1 @3025kbps
post #240 of 4430
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Originally Posted by zippy_z99 View Post

Yeah, it's kind of a mess to figure out what's real.

The other one that's there alot is BD+ playback from harddrive. Way to shoot the messenger. BD+ spec is only to play from optical disc. If they want to support it they they have to follow the spec for legal reasons, not technical. Tough choice given the rumor that cyberlink got kicked in the nutz (to the tune of big $) for not following the BD+ spec. Don't like BD+ rules, then exercise your right to not buy BD+ products, not buy BD at all, or complain to the BD guys. But don't blame the player software cuz anyone who signs on for the decryption keys is going to be in the same boat.

Ok, I removed the requests for bd+ from the hard drive, since it's gonna get them in trouble if they do it.

I also removed multiple complaints about the same problem. Thinned it out a bit, so it's not so daunting.
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