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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
So my 360 RRODed again. The first time I fixed it myself because it was out of warranty (Then they extended it to 3yrs) so I am faced with a couple different options that I wanted to get everyone's opinion on:

First off, will MS still replace it for free even though I opened it? (Doubtful but I figured I'd ask)

Second, should I just buy an Arcade and stick my HDD on top (Will all the data work OK?)

Third, should I buy an Elite and transfer my 20GB to the 120GB. I don't need the space, so I don't see any benefit other than to have a black box.

I really don't want to fix it myself again because I am just sick of messing with it. So what are your thoughts?
post #2 of 26
Sounds like it is time to buy a new one. Since you opened it, they will not accept it.

Whether or not your need a 120 depends on how you use your 360. Just for games? No. Media center? Yes.
post #3 of 26
Hey man, sorry to hear about the RRODed again..I personally think MS should replace every single defective product with a brand spankin new one, only because MS is the sinlge largest electronics producer in the world....they should be able to honour their word by backing their products up..but since they don't do that, I think you should get the Elite...benefits are: 120Gb HD...comes with HDMI cable (if you have HD tv)...and I haven't heard of any Elites Red lighting....the Elite was produced much after the original white XBOX, so they learned they screwed up and corrected it in the Elite...just my opinion, but spend the extra loot and get yourself the Elite...you won't be disappointed!
post #4 of 26
I opened mine after it finally gave out, all I did was blow all the dust from the fans and openings thinking it would start again but didn't, so then put it all back and sent it to ms with no probs they sent me a refurbished one.
post #5 of 26
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Originally Posted by Dubbzzz View Post

I personally think MS should replace every single defective product with a brand spankin new one, only because MS is the sinlge largest electronics producer in the world....they should be able to honour their word by backing their products up..

They are? That's news to me. I'd be shocked if they were even in the top 10. What do they produce besides the Xbox and Zune? Software doesn't count.
post #6 of 26
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I took my X Clamp off and replaced it with washers and screws, will they still accept it free of charge?

I don't need the extra space that much, so I probably won't spend the extra cash on an Elite unless the Arcades are known to RROD again or do not use the new Falcon hardware. In that case I would just buy another Pro and slap the old HDD on and try to sell the 20GB on eBay.
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by EnderOSC View Post

I took my X Clamp off and replaced it with washers and screws, will they still accept it free of charge?

I don't need the extra space that much, so I probably won't spend the extra cash on an Elite unless the Arcades are known to RROD again or do not use the new Falcon hardware. In that case I would just buy another Pro and slap the old HDD on and try to sell the 20GB on eBay.

no, because they will take one look and see that the warranty label has been tampered with and then return it to you in the state they received it. You'll either have to fix it yourself to grab an arcade bundle and just use your HDD. Since your HDD was originally tied to another console you have to be signed int o XBL to use your XBLA titles and DLC.
post #8 of 26
I'm not sure what you mean by X clamp but the warranty label is not in the way when you take apart the case I had one of the first 360's and didn't have to remove any stickers to remove the case,. is that something inside the boards are the screws holding the case? you could say you dropped it and that was ur fix or just send it dont worry about it and hope for the best, worst that can happen is they send it back to you without fixing it.
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ryansdad View Post

I'm not sure what you mean by X clamp but the warranty label is not in the way when you take apart the case I had one of the first 360's and didn't have to remove any stickers to remove the case,. is that something inside the boards are the screws holding the case? you could say you dropped it and that was ur fix or just send it dont worry about it and hope for the best, worst that can happen is they send it back to you without fixing it.

the xclamp holds the GPU to the motherboard. they will defiinatly send it back. When they get the red ring at startup they will open the console and when they see no x-clamp they will seal it back up and send it right back.
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mike LS View Post

They are? That's news to me. I'd be shocked if they were even in the top 10. What do they produce besides the Xbox and Zune? Software doesn't count.

I'd venture to say Sony, LG, Toshiba, NEC and maybe even Casio LOL! produce more than MS.
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
That really shouldn't be too much of an issue (having to be connected to XBL) however is there any kind of work around to use DLC and XBLA content without being connected to XBL (Other than buying an elite and transfering my 20GB HDD to the new 120GB)?
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by Mike LS View Post

They are? That's news to me. I'd be shocked if they were even in the top 10. What do they produce besides the Xbox and Zune? Software doesn't count.

Alright fine..MS isn't the top producer of electronics in the world...but they should be able to support their product if they claim it is the next gen gaming console, no?
post #13 of 26
Thread Starter 
Alright alright, don't turn this thread into any kind of off topic flame war please.
post #14 of 26
Yea my bad...but honestly, once the system has been 'tampered with', MS won't promote the warrantee...get the Elite!!! :P
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by Dubbzzz View Post

Alright fine..MS isn't the top producer of electronics in the world...but they should be able to support their product if they claim it is the next gen gaming console, no?

Yes, but he knew the risks when he opened up his system. It's not like "opening voids warranty" is a new thing. Microsoft or anyone else does not have to honor that.
post #16 of 26
Yea, you probably shouldn't have cracked the 360 open. lol I'd say you'll know for next time...but if you get the Elite, you won't have to..cause they don't break!
post #17 of 26
Thread Starter 
Oh yeah I knew that breaking the seal would most likely lead to that, but it was a system I bought on launch and it was either pay to get it fixed, buy a new one, or try it myself and I chose the later. I was kinda POed when I found out they extended the warranty to 3 years only a few weeks after mine died and I cracked it open. But I figured it was worth a shot asking if anyone had done the same and still sent it in.

If money wasn't an issue I would get the Elite. But right now I am trying to justify a $279.99 system vs. a $449.99 system. Basically I'd be paying the difference for just 100GB which isn't that important to me, so I am leaning towards the Arcade and dealing with the fact that I'll have to be connected to XBL to use downloadable content.

Will all new downloaded content still require to be connected online? And one last question, are the Arcades using the Falcon chipsets?
post #18 of 26
Well, obviously your cheapest way would to get the arcade version and stick your HDD in. The only incentives out of your two possible options would be the HDD, and the makeup of the console. You said you don't need the space, so if you don't care about the cosmetics of your console, why not save some money and buy the Arcade?

I was looking to upgrade my console to an Elite (HDMI less Pro Edition, bought June 2nd, 2006) but Mircosoft's policy on digital content (not being able to use most of your DLC without being connected to Live) really has thrown me off.
post #19 of 26
Thread Starter 
Yeah I think thats what I am trying to decide...

Pay for the Elite to be able to use DLC when ever and where ever I want or get the Arcade and know that if internet or XBL ever goes down I won't be able to use those items?

I guess that luxary isn't worth $170 to me so I think I will just pickup the Arcade.

Thanks for all the info guys.
post #20 of 26
Sorry to try to throw you to the Elite..I use mine as a media center as well as the gaming aspect..The 120Gb hard drive...and HDMI...were the selling features for me...Enjoy the new purchase!
post #21 of 26
You might run into DMR issues regardless of the option you choose.

When you downloaded your DLC, it was tied to your gamertag AND the serial number of your old console. Once you get your new 360 and play offline, you might find that you won't be able to use some of your content.

This is a major concern for the community.
post #22 of 26
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I'd imagine so, especially when you consider the fact that if every person who had an RRODed console got a refurb and stuck their HDD on it and are having these issues.

Hopefully a spring update or something will be released that may resolve these issues, but now that I know that I am sure I will get the Arcade. If I could justify to myself that I'd use it as a media center, I'd be more inclined to get an Elite but as it stands I think the least expensive route is the best for me to take.
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by Dubbzzz View Post

Sorry to try to throw you to the Elite..I use mine as a media center as well as the gaming aspect..The 120Gb hard drive...and HDMI...were the selling features for me...Enjoy the new purchase!

Stop spreading misinformation, the Elite is no different in terms of hardware from any other "Falcon" version of the 360. There are plenty of premium editions that also have the Falcon chip with revised cooling for the GPU. There are no/few reported RRoD could be because of the revised design but can just as easily be attributed to the fact that the redesigned consoles have not been sold for very long.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by Dubbzzz View Post

Alright fine..MS isn't the top producer of electronics in the world...but they should be able to support their product if they claim it is the next gen gaming console, no?

Extending their service to a 3 year warranty in light of the issues isn't supporting their product?
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by krimson View Post

Extending their service to a 3 year warranty in light of the issues isn't supporting their product?

I agree, 3 years is good. But for anyone who has had to deal with the cursed 'Red Lights' MS takes like 3 weeks to ship a new one to you...I think due to the amount of defective systems, they should have something better in place. Just a suggestion, don't take it to heart if you don't like it.
post #26 of 26
I agree in a perfect-world sense, but realistically, replacing all broken 360's with brand new units would probably sink their gaming division. I'd rather wait 3 weeks for a replacement then have another "dreamcast" scenario.
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