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having trouble picking up some hd channels w/ olevia tv

post #1 of 15
1/27/08 at 12:56pm
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I am at a university w/ hd programming, so Over christmas break I bought an olevia 527v so I could take advantage of the hd programming. Well I scan for cable channels and i pick up 68 analog and 9 digital and then i scanned for air on the tv just playing around because I knew that they had more than 9 digital channels and I picked up 13 analog and 17 digital, so I tried to add the other analog channels and It said that they could not be found. and I cannot just do the cable one and then add the hd channels because there is no way to put the . in. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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post #2 of 15
1/27/08 at 1:05pm
There should be a "." or "-" button on the remote for direct digital channel entry, e.g. 9.1 or 9-1 then press enter.
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post #3 of 15
1/27/08 at 1:17pm
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there is a - on the remote, and I can use it when selecting which channel I want to watch. But it does not work for some reason when I go to the channel add menu, I have no clue why though. I read something about this earlier but I cannot seem to find that.

Why would it pick up some digital channels and not others? but then on the air auto scan it picks up all of them
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post #4 of 15
1/27/08 at 11:52pm
9 digital cable channels? That's probably all there are unscrambled. There are probably 200+ scrambled digital channels that you can't get without a converter box.
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post #5 of 15
1/28/08 at 8:54pm
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Hello Andy,
It is likely the case that the channels you are picking up on "air" are broadcast stations which have recently begun the transition to digital over the airwaves. These stations would be picked up while your TV is using its antenna, or "air" mode. The 9 channels detected when scanning over the cable would be the stations provided over our cable infrastructure. While in cable mode, you are picking up the 9 digital cable stations, and while in air mode you are picking up the 17 digital broadcast stations.

I am unsure as to whether both air and cable stations can be picked up simultaneously by your TV. I would suggest getting in contact with your TV's manufacturer in order to provide the best assistance in this regard.


That is what my university said when I emailed them, So is there a way to have it pick up both air and cable channels at the same time? I guess I will be calling olevia tommorow
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post #6 of 15
1/29/08 at 3:58pm
I don't think so - You'll probably need another tuner to handle both cable and OTA. One tuner ( the TV's ?) on the university's cable system, and something like the Samsung DTB-H260F STB for OTA digital (using either the HDMI or component inputs of your TV). THere are other HDTV tuners out there as well - do some looking.

I own an Olevia 232T, and I'm quite pleased with it - but all my HD comes only via OTA - no cable here (just SD Dish).
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post #7 of 15
1/29/08 at 6:45pm
my 527 operates as yours does, ATSC channels can only be added using the Search mode. You might try adding an Antenna amplifier to see if additional signal will work, which is what helped with mine.
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post #8 of 15
1/29/08 at 7:41pm
Oh- and if you're trying to add Air Channels manually - you have to use the "Real" channel, not the virtual one. For example - one of the analog stations in my area is channel 5. their digital channel is 53. So, if I have to add it manually - I would put "53" in the channel to be added, then the TV will read the digital stream and do the "conversion" to 5.1 .The 5.1 is the virtual channel.
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post #9 of 15
1/30/08 at 4:58pm
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Is there something so that I can split the coax from the wall into coax and hdmi? that way I could have the OTA channels on one input and the cable channels over another one so I don't have to scan for the channels again to get the hd channels or get the regualr channels. What would you guys suggest? would I have to buy a set top box or is there just a splitter? I am not trying to spend a lot of money because I will only be here for about 14 more weeks and then at home I would have no use for it.

Edit: there is only one coax output in the room
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post #10 of 15
1/30/08 at 5:26pm
Not without a STB there isn't.

You can get a cable company STB, then use your TV's tuner for OTA HDTV, or you use your TV's QAM tuner for cable, and get an STB that can tune the ATSC OTA stuff.
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post #11 of 15
2/2/08 at 12:44am
um hold on a second- i have a pre-2007 olevia and also encountered the issue where you can't use their "channel add" feature to add anything that requires the dash, eg 11-1.

someone suggested finding which higher numbered "channel" was being used to carry the digital version of the lower numbered channel (you can find this kind of stuff on antennaweb or 2150.com) but that wouldn't work with an olevia; if you tried to add, say, 54, you would get analog channel 54 instead (at least whenever 54 is a valid channel and it was discovered during the most recent scan- i have verified this).

this issue may be specific to older olevia models- i have seen it mentioned in various forums but have not seen a solution.
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post #12 of 15
2/2/08 at 6:36am
Stretch - it works on MY Olevia 232T. I goto the add channels menu item, then manaully add a channel. you then put in the "real" channel (what the station is broadcasting on, NOT necessarily the same as you put in your remote), and if it is digital, it will automatically add all the subchannels - and assign it the "virtual" channel number.
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post #13 of 15
2/2/08 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by Scooper View Post

Stretch - it works on MY Olevia 232T. I goto the add channels menu item, then manaully add a channel. you then put in the "real" channel (what the station is broadcasting on, NOT necessarily the same as you put in your remote), and if it is digital, it will automatically add all the subchannels - and assign it the "virtual" channel number.

hmm- well i've got a 437 and that strategy didn't work for me. then again my TV is one rev behind on the firmware- maybe i'll try the latest and greatest and see if this was fixed at some point. i would hate to have something go wrong and brick the TV just for this "feature", but i'll give it a shot in the spirit of discovery.
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post #14 of 15
2/4/08 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by stretch437 View Post

my TV is one rev behind on the firmware- maybe i'll try the latest and greatest and see if this was fixed at some point.

ok so i updated the firmware from
437-S11-061121B
to
437-S11-061218A
and the behavior did not change for me: i still cannot add a digital channel using the "-" button on the remote nor can i add one by entering the UHF channel number that actually carries a given digital channel's "virtual" channel number.

oh well.
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post #15 of 15
2/4/08 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by stretch437 View Post

i would hate to have something go wrong and brick the TV just for this "feature", but i'll give it a shot in the spirit of discovery.

and just for the record i did in fact render my TV completely inoperable at one point during the process. the firmware upgrading materials supplied by olevia online are somewhat incomplete to say the least, and if you try to improvise by using just any old "PL-2303 USB-to-Serial Bridge Controller" you are asking for trouble. i downloaded an old one (hey- the name matched, what could go wrong?) and OF COURSE the firmware update tool bluescreened just AFTER the "erase" stage, thereby turning my TV into a brick the night before the super bowl.

fortunately a very helpful post elsewhere on this forum indicated a valid PL-2303 driver is included in the 537H firmware download currently located at

http://64.168.125.216/jsp/firmware/d...11_061121B.zip

so i was able to resurrect the TV and save my marriage after all.

[ok, if you really want the full story, i actually bricked it *again* immediately after resurrecting it by forgetting to quit the updater tool and disconnect the USB cable before hibernating the laptop i was using. but after *three* tries i did get things completely back to normal. i include all this for your amusement only; sort of a "what not to do" for olevia firmware updates...]
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