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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
These are just ideas, I have not tried any of these things!


Idea #1

An idea for a screen that could be easily repainted was floating around in my mind. I threw together some plans and posted them a while back under the name "Proud Painter's Screen". The word proud indicating that the screen surface actually sticks out in front of the border. Here are those plans for anyone who might want to try to use them to make a screen.



This was designed to make a 98" 16:9 screen from a single sheet of white hardboard. With a little thought you should see that larger screens are possible with a seam that falls on the center piece. The two halves of hardboard would be securely glued to the plywood backing so that it should be possible to fill and paint over the seam without it showing in the image.


Idea #2

Here is another idea I had that might work to make an easily removable border. The two key items in this design are those self drilling plastic drywall anchors and the right size of finishing nail.



You need to select a size of finishing nail that slides snugly into the plastic anchors.

The idea is seat the nails in the border so that the point is just about to break through. One nail near each end and a couple along the length of the border piece. Then place the border piece against the wall where you want to install it. Now tap the nails in far enough to just hold the piece steady as you tap in each successive nail. Once all the nails have pierced the wall gently remove the border piece. Now install one of the plastic anchors where each nail hole is. You will also want to pound the nails the rest of the way into the border piece so that the heads are flush with the surface. You can now cover the border pieces with the black fabric or paint them flat black. The heads of the nails will be covered. If you are covering the border pieces with fabric be sure to leave enough space for the fabric where the border pieces come together at the corners.

The nails should now line up with the plastic anchors. You can simply push the border piece on with the nails snuggly slipping into the anchors. To get it off you should be able to gently pry the pieces up until you can get your fingers behind the piece and pull it off.


I'm sure other people must have had some ideas but have not posted them because they are untried. Well this is the thread to post untried ideas in. You may never have a use for it but it may help out someone else, and by posting it here it won't be forgotten.
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post #2 of 14
I was walking thru HD yesterday, looking at various wood for a screen, border, and AV rack. Saw a few choices for a 4x8 screen.

But then when I was walking by the flooring section, I saw these nice, 12-ft wide rolls of vinyl flooring. I don't remember reading about anyone trying this material, so...

If one were to look at the bottom side of the flooring, could it be a potential for a screen? I haven't gotten to my own first screen up yet (taking parkland plastic route), so I'll let the veterans decide if it is or not.

The cheaper flooring (0.44 - 0.88 per sq-ft) actually seemed the best as the texture was not spongy, but more like a heavy cloth. It might soak up a lot of white primer for the first coat. I'm thinking to avoid cracking, hang the screen first and then paint. At ~44Cents per sq-ft, it might be a fun experiment to try a few different types of textures.

Just think of the possibilities: 16:9 (12' x 6'9") and 2.35:1 (12' x 5'1") could be cut to order. Or how about 12' x 21', 290" DIY screen with no seams .
post #3 of 14
I would like to see a flocking process used to coat a screen border. Yes I did type (flocking).

http://www.infind.com.au/coatings1.html http://www.swicofil.com/flock.html

What you would do would be to paint the frame (wood) after constructed with something like white wood glue and then sprinkle on black flocking compound (finely chopped black fiber) the appearance would be like that of velvet and I think the light absorbing properties would be also.
post #4 of 14
I have seen spray on black velvet paint in the past. I don't know if it's still available but when I used it it seemed to work quite well. It's just a spray can when you spray it the material ends up standing up and drys to a slightly fury flat black very close to velvet material.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by larrykelly View Post

I have seen spray on black velvet paint in the past. I don't know if it's still available but when I used it it seemed to work quite well. It's just a spray can when you spray it the material ends up standing up and drys to a slightly fury flat black very close to velvet material.

Larrykelly

I have never seen a one step spray process in a can for flocking or velvet, but if you can remember what it was it would be great information to have. Back years ago what we did was paint the surface a color to match the flocking in this case black. In the case of the bottoms of chess pieces green. Then when the paint was dry you put Elmer's glue (white glue) on the bottom and then sprinkled this stuff (flocking) real thick on the glue, let it dry and brushed off the excess. It looked just like velvet.

I have seen crinkle paint in the spray cans. Goes out smooth and dries all rough and crinkled.

I did do an experiment with white flocking as a screen surface but didn't mention it here because this thread is about stuff we haven't tried yet. White is easy to find around Christmas time and comes in gallons. As to how it worked as a screen it would be off topic to mention that..
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by bud16415 View Post

I did do an experiment with white flocking as a screen surface but didn't mention it here because this thread is about stuff we haven't tried yet. White is easy to find around Christmas time and comes in gallons. As to how it worked as a screen it would be off topic to mention that..

Nothing is really off topic Bud. I just thought it would be nice to have a place to toss ideas around without people asking for proof of concept. I guess the title should have been "Post Your Ideas Here Even If Untried".
post #7 of 14
I saw some thing called white tileboard at HD today. It's cheap ($11) and light. I would just nail it to the wall and put masking tape around the border to make a screen. Estimated total cost = $15. I can't do it because

1. I don't have a truck to drive it home.
2. I need a pull down screen for my bedroom setup

I can't think of a cheaper way to make a screen.
post #8 of 14
I'm planning out my aluminum frame and came across the site below that has these "tap in" corner connectors. I'll probably go with something more permanent like corner brackets. But, if someone needed a very portable screen that is easy to assemble, I bet they could use these for corners in conjunction with velcro to attach the screen to the frame.



For travel purposes this could be fairly easy...
-Four aluminum square tubes w/velcro
-Four eztube type corner connectors (maybe little velcro squares on the exposed corner part)
-Rolled up screen fabric w/velcro

I haven't seen any pricing, but the site looks very DIY oriented.
post #9 of 14
In my last house I wanted to have the screen hinged and swing up to the ceiling to be put away (not a dedicated space). Seemed easier than a roll up.

The back of the screen would be something that looked good, or even finished in the same texture as the ceiling. Now automate it
post #10 of 14
For some reason I have been more interested in the building of the screen frames than the actual screen material. I currently am on my second frame. The first was a classic wood frame with BOC stapled on it. For my fist screen I thought it was pretty good.

The frame I have now is made out of 1 1/4" square steel tubing. It has black out cloth that is streched out around the edge with eyelets and a small rope. I think I read the eyelet and rope idea on the forum somewhere, and thought it would be an easy way to take the material off the frame. This current frame has developed a tendancy to "flex", so that is is not perfectly flat.

So continuing with Audixium's idea I am really interested in trying some of those connectors out. It just seems to me like they would provide more stability. But it looks like they only sell the corner connectors for 1" tubing. I am temped to buy some of those connecters and go get some smaller tubing. So thanks for pointing those out Audixium, and I will let you know if I give them a try.
post #11 of 14
Over in the DIY Constant Height room mtbdudex plans to use a "tinker toy" approach with an extruded aluminum frame, similar to the caps I posted above. I think the source he found appears much more suited to our needs.

Tubing profile


Connector example


Full site

Interesting...
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by two-rocks View Post

In my last house I wanted to have the screen hinged and swing up to the ceiling to be put away (not a dedicated space). Seemed easier than a roll up.

The back of the screen would be something that looked good, or even finished in the same texture as the ceiling. Now automate it

I actually build a screen out of boc for that purpose and got pretty far. got it hanging by chains from the ceiling. When done viewing, I would hook up the bottom side to another set of chain and it would equally drop down from the ceiling. The back side was also covered with boc and the intention was someday to paint some art to it.

After hooking and unhooking about 2 or 3 times, a pulldown went up to replace it. It just looked too weild and not very functional, but at least I tried it.
post #13 of 14
How about gluing BOC to a substrate such as peg-board? You can then attach a semi-rigid felt wrapped frame around it to add rigidity to the screen as a whole.

positives
  • No wrinkles (hopefully)
  • Frame stiffness less of a factor
  • thinner profile?

negatives
  • Size limitation unless joining two pieces together
  • weight ?
post #14 of 14
Just tossing random thoughts out so bare with me. I had this "vision" of a 16:9 screen that had hinges on both sides of the felt border and when you wanted to go 2:35:1 you just pushed out the sides and the screen would collapse to the correct size.

Another "vision" so please bare with me. They make pull down shades that are tensioned, you know the ones I am talking about, after a few years of use they never seem to go back up and if they do it's only half way. I was trying to figure out a way you could get two of these, mount them inside the "border" of a 2:35:1 screen and just pull them out when you wanted to watch something 16:9. They would need to be painted of course; I wonder if they could be hacked to use felt instead of that crappy plastic material??? Hmmm.
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