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i Still say KICKERS FOR THE WIN But Jl AUDIO CAN TAKE A POUNDING one JL 8' 3000 watts max thats alot but its 800$ for one 8' lol

"Watts" in itself doesnt make bass. And normally a sub that needs that much power to move is going to be inefficient. What makes bass is cone displacement and Xmax. So an 8" sub driver for $800 isn't what I would call a bargain at all..........

So true!

1. Your budget: $5000 to $10,000 for 2 or 3 subs

2. Size requirements/limits: none in dedicated room. I would like the lowest distortion possible for music, yet hit you in the chest feel for movies

3. Room dimensions: 26 X 17 X 9/10

4. Primary uses: 75% movies 25% Music

5. Listening habits: varies

6. Appearance requirements: none, behind screen Would prefer rack mounted amps

7. Timeframe: Nov/Dec 2010 (building new house)

8. Currently own: Velodyne DD-12

Thanks for the follow up.......

Why not the Velodyne DD-18 or DD-15? Both can be had at extended discount, besides I love my five year old DD-12.

I find it interesting......... I've spent the last 4-5 months auditioning speakers and the DD-18 out shined every sub I've listened to including the JL Fathom, all B & W and Paradigm sub offerings.

Granted, I've never listened to any of the internet company subs therefore I have no basis to judge........all I can do is take someone's word for it. Not a good place to be in...........

I will check out your suggestions ............is the Seaton Submersive really that impressive? How does the Submersive compare to the DD-18 in SQ, I'm not too concerned with regard to SPL. Granted the DD-18's wont dig deep, but above 20 hz, they are incredible! On another note........I wonder if Mark Seaton can make a passive Submersive? Passive Submersive? Oxymoron? Just asking............

Thanks.............

Dear friends, I finally decided joining this community. Sorry for my english as it is not my first language.

I am buying my home theater nowadays and I just got my stunning pair of Klipsch RF63. I am looking now for a good subwoofer to fit. I thought of the rsw-10d klipsch (10" 500W rms 24Hz) but they are not selling that model anymore so I need advice in any other option. Actually, I dont even have a receiver yet as I am waiting for the Onkyo SR608 to arrive to Guatemala (7.2+100W; 3DReady).

As I live in Guatemala, my choices are reduced to:

1) Klipsch; 2) Polk; 3) JBL; 4)Jamo; 5)Bose (yes they are everywere); 6) PSB; 7) Harman Kardon 8) Onkyo;

My requeriments are: The smaller the better; The lower Hz the better; about 1000 USD; wife's factor: good looking sub.

Thank you very much for your advice and opinions!

Your budget: $750 - $1000 (flexible)

2. Size requirements/limits: Nothing really. Going to sit on a floor in small HT

3. Room dimensions: 12 x 20 x 8

4. Primary uses: 90% movies and sports... 10% Music

5. Listening habits: Beginner, but want "higher end quality" sound for movies, tv and sports

6. Appearance requirements: Preferably nice appearance. Going to be out in the open.

7. Timeframe: Football season (Sept '10)

8. Currently own: Nothing. In process of building HT now.

I am teetering back and forth between dual Epik Legends versus the Rythmik F12 (signature), but I really don't know much about subs to make an informed decision. That's where you guys come in!!!
Not sure if makes any difference, but my receiver is the Denon AVR-4810ci and I am running the DefTech Mythos Series speakers (Mythos Ones... not the STS)

thanks for any help!

Thanks for dropping some knowlege on me. Very helpful. I was leaning more towards one Empire about a week ago, but then thought that might be overkill for my small room?

As for other models you might recommend, please throw them at me. I am a complete sub noob. I'm coming from an old Sony theater in a box that is being demoted to the family room. So many choices out there, I really don't know where to begin. again... many thanks.

Dear All,

I saw that some subwoofers can serve as a audio receiver and those have audio outputs for the speakers. Where should I ask about those sub? Is it here or is it in the HTIB forum?

Thanks a lot,

Jose

Is there a cheap system or subwoofer with HDMI in? I don't want to pass-trhough the HDMI audio and less than ever connect it to a TV or such a sh...
I don't need a big and expensive receiver that eats power and takes space, I would prefer an integrated solution. Just need a small device with a HDMI interface that interprets audio, or at least a device that accepts several PCM streams as front, rear, center/sub

1. Your budget. <$5000

2. Size requirements/limits. F113 is the absolute largest I can use to conceal within my hearth. I was considering a pair of these (had one previously and like it). I was also considering a pair of the new Triad Gold In Room DSP subs but with the rack amps so I could build my hearth a little shallower even across the screen wall. These would also be cheap enough I could probably swing a pair of Triad In Ceiling Bronze 10's for a few feet behind the listening position (probably near my in ceiling surrounds). I could also go with 3 in room silver DSP subs in place of the 2 gold in room dsp's.

3. Room dimensions. 14'x35', but the actual listening room where I can place things is more like 14'x14' or so (it's one big open room). Ceiling heights are JUST under 8', so it's a fairly small room.

4. Primary uses. Almost entirely home theater.

5. Listening habits. Generally at reasonable volume levels, but every once in a while I have a chance to use it when no one is home and it gets cranked up!

6. Appearance requirements. Doesn't matter as they will be concealed in a stone hearth with just a black GOM grill over the front to cover them.

7. Timeframe. We close on the new home early August so I will order then. I need them probably within 6-8 weeks of order.

If I go the JL Route I will probably buy used. If I go Triad I will buy new. I am hoping to get some other suggestions for my situation to get the best in room level response.

1. Your budget: <$500

2. Size requirements/limits: Smaller is better.

3. Room dimensions: 12'x18'x12'h

4. Primary uses: 50%/50% Music/HT. Care more about accuracy and music quality than HT explosions that shake the room.

5. Listening habits: Lower volume as I live in an old apartment building and cannot have complaints.

6. Appearance requirements: Smaller is better, but will likely be out of sight for the most part.

7. Timeframe: Next 6 weeks.

8. Currently own: Nothing yet, but will pair the sub with Aperion 4T, 4C setup.

Thinking about the Aperion 8D to match the speakers, but looking for wiser input from the members here.

Hello everyone.

Trying to find a replacement for my Klipsch subwoofer where the amplifier died. I contacted Klipsch and it is $100 bucks to repair (and that includes me taking it apart and sending it to them), so I am thinking it might be better just to look for a replacement:


1. Your budget. Under $300

2. Size requirements/limits. Does not matter, 8" or 10" (assuming I understand the question correctly )

3. Room dimensions. 10 x 30 x 10H (big open room with living room and kitchen eating area are combined)

4. Primary uses. 90% HT, 10% music listening.

5. Listening habits. Do not watch movies on a very high volume level, due to the possibility of waking the kids. Would like something that is nice, but does not shake the house and wake up my kids. Lots of shaking is not a requirement, but hearing the base would be nice (dont hear anything right now)

6. Appearance requirements. None.

7. Timeframe. - Within the next 2 months.

Thanks for the help.

1. Your budget: $2,000ish

2. Size requirements/limits: None.

3. Room dimensions: 18 x 16 x 8 (L x W x H) however, one side of the room opens up to half of my 2nd story of my house (half wall on that side of the room...the room is a loft basically)

4. Primary uses: 80% Movies 20% Gaming

5. Listening habits: Random

6. Appearance requirements: None.

7. Timeframe: ASAP

8. Currently own: HSU VTF3-MK2 (currently for sale on Craigslist and A'gon)

9. Prospects: Either want Dual Empires or Dual Rythmik F15HP or something else some1 can recommend around my budget that rocks. I like watching my movies with the volume cranked...

I was looking at the Epic models. I like the price points.
Anybody have a opinion about the Velodyne DD12's?
For $200 more I could get two Empires, and add the SMS1 later on

I ended up going that route (2 Empires)...YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!!!! My pre/pro's Audyssey MultEQ XT did a good job and they rock in my room.

I have heard a DD15 before but not 2 DD12s. The DD15 sounded really good IMO, but I cannot comment on 2 DD12s as I have not heard a setup like that. I am sure it would sound really awesome though. Just my 2 cents...

Hi there take a look at these subs theres the ULS-15 QuadDrive as well or 4 epik empires, paradigm sub25 or sub2 and of course submersive 2 or 3

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls15quaddrive.html
http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/dualempire.html
http://www.paradigm.com/index.php?op...d=117&Itemid=2
http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/post?id=3364736

No, I'm comparing the price. Two Empire's for $1499.00 vs. one DD12 at $1299.00 Maple or $1678.08 black. More if I go bigger. And I can always add the SMS-1 later, and still be under the price of a DD15.

Looking to upgrade my sub within the next month and right now leaning heavily towards the Bic Acoustech PL-200. Seems like a real good bang for the buck. Currently I am only using a Denon 8” sub that came with a HTIB. Also, I will be placing this in the rear by my couch and back wall, so I don’t know if front or down firing would be any kind of advantage as far as placement goes (see picture, bottom left where the little end table is)...

1. Your budget: Currently I am looking in and around $300 range. But of course, if there is a much better sub for a little more, then by all means I’ll consider it.

2. Size requirements/limits: No size restrictions as far as sub goes. Actually wish it was big enough to be an end table size

3. Room dimensions: Looking to “fill” an open floor plan that is open downstairs to living room, kitchen and hallways. The primary room though is 10’x20’x8’. (see picture)

4. Primary uses: I would say it will be used for 60% TV/HT, 30% Music, and 10% gaming.

5. Listening habits: Need something that digs fairly deep as I love my bass. On the other hand, I live in a townhouse, and I will rarely if at all listen at reference levels. I also do not want to “outgrow” the sub, but I know how it usually goes…always looking for something bigger and better. Just need it to satisfy me for a while.

6. Appearance requirements: Appearance doesn’t really matter, however it will be placed beside my main sofa.

7. Timeframe: Looking to buy within a month.

A few subs that I am looking at:

Bic Acoustech PL-200 (top choice right now, based on paper stats)
Hsu Research STF-2 or VTF-1
Lava LSP12
Epik Legend (pretty much out of price range)
Emotiva Ultra Sub 10
SVS PB10 (once again, pretty much out of price range)
ED A3s-250 or A2-300

To me, I think any sub that I go with will be a big step of from what I currently have….Thanks for your help!

I'm looking for a sub with my bedroom setup. This a 12x 15 bedroom with a Pioneer 1120k receiver, Klipsch RF63 towers, RC52 center and RS42 rears.

I'm looking for a sub that is around 15x15" maybe a little bigger as i am tight on room. The smaller Elemental Designs seem to be on the top of my list.

This is for movies only on 3 of my Pioneer Elite DVD players, DV-37, DV-59 AVI and a 05 FD Blueray player.

What would you guys pick?

Don't obsess about "music" only or "movie" only subs. The way around this man-made dilemma is to buy the fastest, most responsive sub you can get. Sealed designs don't have the sheer decibel output of ported designs, but they are accurate by nature. Many of the new smaller units will, with internal EQ built into the amps, go down to 20hz. quite nicely. In my bedroom, I've got an SVS SB12-Plus. It's a sealed 12", and works great on music, TV and DVD's. Personally, I like a 12" driver, but I'm a known bass hog. Are you referring to the Elemental Designs A3S - 250? It's got a sharp looking driver with a rubber surround, sealed design for speed, compact size and goes down to a respectable 25 hertz. But consider another factor: It's built here in the states, assembled in Iowa by Americans. For me, that's a fairly important consideration. Getting top quality and keeping people working at the same time? Deal. SVS, HSU, Elemental Designs, all good.

For the record:
Buying something made overseas can be a pain. I've got a new Infinity Cascade 15 Cherry, and the amp has issues. Harman International made me haul the thing to a repair shop some 70 miles away, and then go pick it up a month later, and it's still got amp issues. Two rounds trips worth of gas and time, tying up two Saturdays, and out of service for a month. Not happy with Harman International products OR their personnel. Wish I'd bought American from a company with phones here that actually get answered. You learn from your mistakes. It's not the old JBL or Infinity anymore. Stay away!

The ED A3S-250 is on the top of my list at this time.

Need some help with this pls but first off, i live in China and i don't have access to all the direct sales american made subs, prices here will be almost double of what they are in the US so choices are limited:

Am planning my upgrade and am looking a surround set of either Swans 6.1/6.2 or KEF IQ90...

And am thinking to go either with 2 smaller subs or one bigger one

this is the Swans Sub10V...2300rmb (345 USD)

http://swanspeaker.com/products/prod...ngle=subwoofer

This is the larger 12inch Jamo 650SUB which could fit into my budget...but only 1 - 4850 rmb (728 USD)

http://www.jamo.com/na-en/products/sub-650-description/

The Jamo also has a little brother which is the 550SUB also 10inch but i like the look of the Swans better - 3400 rmb (510 USD)

1. max 4800rmb (700 USD)
2. 8, 10, 12 inch sub all ok
3. 45 SQM (5.2M x 8.6M)
4. 70% HT - 30% music
5. Turn it up for movies for sound immersion, normal for the rest
6. Black and rest depends on the box
7. no time frame

Brands like SVS are just crazy expensive here. I have set my limit at 4800rmb roughly 700usd but wouldn't mind spending less of course...i got a 45sqm living room, long rectangle shaped living room (5.20m * 8.60M - setup will be precisely in the middle of this room with sub or subs on either end (left ear and right ear) of the 8.60m)

Question is which would be be better suited in my apartment...2 smaller subs or 1 bigger one?

And the next question can i just match those subs with the speakers i have selected - as far as my non existent sub knowledge goes a sub is a sub so don't see any reason why not but just wanted to make sure so correct me if i am wrong...

Hi,

I want to replace my subwoofer Kef KUBE2. I have sound system KEF KHT-2005.3

1. Budget 500 1000$

2. I would like 10" / 12" , i think thats the best for my living room 60-70 square meters

3. Room dimensions , im from sweden but i guess it's 50/70 square meters.

4. Listening ratio : 75% music and 25% TV/Movies

5. Listening habits. POP/RNB/Metall.

6. Appearance requirements: Dont care , just it's sounds good.


I have been looking at SVS/Velodyne/sunfire/Epik



Thanks for your help !