BIC Acoustech Owners Thread - Page 62

I don't know if I want something so conspicuous and probably ugly by the time I was done.

I was just told by BIC that the Platinum line version of the ht-63 surrounds will be available by the end of the month.

Darth, I don't know which dealer you spoke with but I can't agree with him more and you've come to the right person because I've had the Acoustech HT-75 towers and the HT-64 center and replaced them with the Premier Acoustic PA-8F towers and the PA-6C center and all I can say is the difference in sound is night and day. The PA-8F'S & PA-6C completely blow away the acoustech HT-75's & HT-64 center when it comes to overall sound. Much crisper high's and more defined mids & lows. The PA-8F's have a 5" mid driver whereas the Acoustech's do not have any mid driver at all. That may be why I felt the mids were always lacking on the HT-75's? Put it this way, when running the HT-75's I had to raise the volume on my sub to at least half way or better to feel and hear any real lows. But with the PA-8F's I only have to put it up 1/4 of the way because the PA-8F's put out plenty of nice low freq's on their own. I feel the sound is much fuller now. I don't know how the newer HT-88's sound being I haven't heard them yet so I can't speak for them. But if they're anything like the HT-75's then I probably won't like them either due to I found the horns to be a bit on the harsh side and sometimes overbearing depending on how long of a listening session I'd have with them. But I have to be honest, with movies they were pretty damn good. Dialogue was clear on the HT-64 center. However, not as crisp and clear as the PA-6C. I've compared the 2 centers and the dialogue from the HT-64 always sounded like the person that was talking had a nasal problem. It was clear but it had sort of a processed type sound that didn't sound natural whereas the dialogue is much more natural sounding on the PA-6C. But the main reason I decided to replace my Acoustech's was because I felt they didn't fair well with music and this was a big negative for me being 75% of my listening is music concert/DVD's etc. I feel the PA-8F's fair very well with movies and especially music so I am very happy with them. I always felt the 6.5" horns on the Acoustech's were just too big for the 8" drivers and they over exaggerated the highs. I'm not knocking the Acoustech line in the least because they are decent speakers and look beautiful. Just giving an honest opinion between the two speaker lines being I've owned both. Hope this helps?

Just like I said, avialable in June. They will be the HT-66's

BTW, I got my PL-76's today and now my front end and sub are all Acoustech's. I have to say, omfWOW. The sound is amazing, voice is crisp and clear and so far can be heard easily even during quiet parts of the movie. I am really liking them so far. I can't wait until they are fully broken in.

I have already run audysey, I had to add +8 DB to the intellivolume and adusted all frequencie range to 80. Since I have a smaller sace I set the fronts to be full band with double bass turned on.

I will post more updates when I have time.

I am confused, you say you have had teh HT-64 center, The HT-64 is a bookshelf speaker. You are now also syaing you had the HT-75's but in a pervious post you said you had HT-64 fronts.

Also, if you had the HT-75's and HT-64 as a center, then you had 6 1/2 inch drivers and not the 8 inch drivers.

I have read a many of your posts, especially on this particualr thead and it is getting very annoying seeing you do nothing but bash these speakers.

Sorry, I meant the HT-65 center not HT-64. The HT-64 are the bookshelf speakers. And yes, they have 6.5" drivers not 8". The PA-8F's have 8" drivers. They all start getting confusing after awhile. My bad! And nobody is bashing them? I was just trying to give Darth a completely honest opinion being I've owned both Acoustech & Premier Acoustic speakers. Why you see it as bashing is beyond me? I even go on to say that the Acoustech's were very good speakers. They just weren't for me. Didn't like the way the horns sounded. So I don't understand why you are taking an honest personal opinion as bashing? That's not what I was trying to do? Bash them? They are excellent speakers and are gorgous looking but I just happen to like the over all sound from the Premier Acoustic's a lot better. Is that such a sin? Seems like nobody can say anything negative about these speakers without being personally attacked? Gheez, give me a break dude!

No, giving your honest opinion is not sin. Changing your facts time and time again is. re-stating the exact same arguementes 15 times over withing 20 posts is. We all get it, you like the PA's (or market them). Since everyone in this thread has read that 15 times over, there is no need to keep saying the same thing.

Honestly, congrats on finding a good set of speakers that meets your preference. Now please, so as not to destroy this thread, stop saying the same damned thing over and over again. Many people fall in love with the great highs that the horns are capable of and the dynamic range that is given with it.

I mayself, have not heard the PS before so I can't say anything about them one way or another. I have now heard the Acoustechs, and absolutely love them (MovieGuy do not say the same old song of "tell me how you feel about then in a few months" either). They are the best upgrade in audio that I have yet to hear. I think they sound way better then the klispch RF line, as I recently sampled them for a good hour or so at Ultimate Electronics. Granted I did not listen to them at my house, I am in no way rich enough to buy 2 sets just for sampling.

Finally, no one wants to read a flame war thread, which you had made it for a few pages. If you keep stating the same things it will just restart a new flame-war.

Okay now, with all foolishness aside and hopefully without more repeats from MovieGuy, let's get this thread back on track.

Anyone here yet have the chance to compare the PL's vs the HT's?

Darthindy,If I were you I would find a more reliable source for a comparison.I'm sure the PA's probably sound good too but I've never heard them.

I couldn't agree with you more. Darth, don't just take my word for it. Check out what everyone else is saying on the pA-8F thread. I leave it at that.

Why don't you guys just let it go for cryin' out loud. Your ruining an otherwise good thread with all this crap.

If you want to go back and forth and rub each other off, do us all a favor, and PM each other.

Thank you...

now back on TOPIC

Wow, certainly did not mean to open up that can of worms! Let's get this thread back on topic...

I'd also love to hear from someone who has some of the HT line and the newer PL line. Do they sound identical?

I do not know for a fact, but I somehow keep thinking that the Acoustech horn drivers were designed by the engineer who designed Klipsch horns. I am pretty sure that I read it some where, whether it's true or not I do not know.

But I have both Klipsch and Acoustech speakers and I love the horn sound, but it's just me.

The Acoustech subwoofer is also reputed to be designed by Dr. Hsu of the famed Hsu speaker Lab. I am really impressed by the sound of the Acoustech subwoofer.

I am interested in hearing from others who have heard the Klipsch and the Acoustech speakers.

i thought you already said you were done on this thread and to never post again?

Come on guys, there has got to be somebody on here who has directly compared the new platinum line to the ht line???
I thought there were a few of you who had ht line and replaced with the pl line?

you asked the same question three times in two days and you didn't get an answer.. can't you take a hint?

HAHAHA. I guess not AND I'm trying my darndest to get this thread back on track.

Alright, I finaly have my entertainment center project finished, minus a box for hiding power cables.
I didn't have time to take pics this weekend but I should have some up within a day or 2.

Take a piece of shelving board (1"x4" or 1"x6" cut longer than the distance of the mounting brackets but shorter than the speaker cabinet) then drive a couple 2" or 2.5" nails or screws (I prefer drywall screws) into or near the center of the board thru the sheetrock where a stud is present for support then run a couple round head screws into the board where the mounting brackets will fit onto them. If this is practical for you your surround speakers will mounted to the wall discreetly and inexpensively.

Can some HT-88 owners convince me to purchase a set? I listen to music, video games, and watch movies a lot.

I have 2 B1.2 athena's right now. Looking at HT-88's and then i'll need a center channel and a sub later.

Can I get some input on the HT-88s please!! Anything, anyone, tell me about these speakers and how much they are worth spending on.

1st ... where will get these HT-88's and how much??

Well you won't be able to find the HT-88's anymore unless you buy used. Your current choices are teh Pl-76's with the 6 1/2" woofers or the PL-89's with the 8" inch woofers. Both have the same 6 1/2" tweeters.

There are serveral things to consider here. First off, how large is your room that these will be put in? What are the dimensions of the room? How much money do you have to spend on these speakers? Do you just need fronts, or are you looking at a whole surrount system with a center channel as well? Do you already have a good powered sub? and finally do you already have a decent receiver (or pre-amps) that can handle whatever you are trying to do?

I can honestly say that I have never heard sound in my house that is nearly as good as the Acoustechs. I know there is better, I just don't think you will get better for the same price. And I can say that they sound better, yet similar to the klipsch's that are available for around the 2 grand price range for a 5.1 system.

Some people don't like the Horn speakers for music, while other love it because it can help make voices brighter and clearer. There are many things in my music that I can hear now that I have never been able to hear before and I am very pleased with them. Also they have not even been broken in yet. I think it will still take another couple of weeks since I am really busy lately.

Once you are able to give us more info I can better help you out if you are seriously considering thise.

He would be getting the 88's from me.

errr... there were 2 parts to my question.. and the 2nd half?

I would say a pair of used 88's should easily go for 400bux maybe more.
Only get them if you are willing to get the PL-29 or ht-85 center channel to match them.

As for the sub, you don't need to match, anything from h100, pl200 all the way up to a 2000 dollar HSU sub would do you well.

Ok All: speaking of 8" speakers, I just purchased DV84's and after reading many posts, was that a mistake? I keep hearing that the 64's are better. Followup question: Bookself speakers. If I want to spend between 110-150 for the pair what would you suggest. Should I consider the difference between 7.1 and 5.1? I have played guitar for years and have some slight hearing damage meaning the some of the higher tones (like cymbals) sound muffled.

Current components:
Denon 1709
BIC DV84's

my sound requirements are a balanced system that is good for Music, HDTV and DVD's. Musical tastes range from Hard thumpin Rockabilly to classical, not much of a RAP fan.

Thanks in advance from the Noob..... ;-)

Your current speakers are just fine, you should not have a problem with them. I would say there is no need to upgrade until you are able to put a couple hundred dollars on a pair.
The 64's are no longer in produciton and you will only be able to get them used. Bookshelves will suit you just fine if you have a good sub to pair them up with.
As far as the 5.1-7.1 goes. It is really up to your tastes and your budget.
Personally, I go with a 5.1 because you can get more bang for the buck that way. That and my room is not large enough to support a full 7.1. Finally you will only truly benefit form a 7.1 if you have a blu-ray player/PS3 + games and a reciever that supports hi-def audio.
The blu-ray movies and PS3 games are the only audio sources right now that were created with all 7.1 channels. If you do not have either, I say go with a 5.1 and upgrade to a 7.1 later.

i weighed one of my pl-89s and it weighed almost 51 lbs so definately a typo.

He would be getting them for $350 shipped.