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post #3271 of 4576
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJonesBSME View Post

Still consider the PL-200, especially if budget is important. I've had Sonance and M&K subs that ranged from $800-$1400 each and the PL-200 blows them away. I've never heard the HSU sub before, but compared to the much more expensive subs I've owned, I'm sure you won't be disappointed with the PL-200. I think I got my PL-200 shipped for about $280.

Agree with you as well. I need to do some research on Hsu before I decide to spend the extra bucks for them, else I think PL-200 is the best bet.
post #3272 of 4576
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Originally Posted by harshrk View Post

Agree with you as well. I need to do some research on Hsu before I decide to spend the extra bucks for them, else I think PL-200 is the best bet.

The PL-200 is great sub at it's price point. The PL-200 will whoop the crap out of most BIG BOX store subwoofers at even twice the price in many cases. Most of them rely on brand name recognition alone. For example at Klipsch does not get close to the PL-200 until the SW-112 which is a $600 speaker. It is not until you get more than 2-3x the price at a local shop like Best Buy that you get to the same performance level. This is true with most ID dealers.

What you get really depends on the level of sub you want. How deep you want it to go, how loud you want it to be. How tight you want the sound.
For the sake of not being biased I will let you know of a couple other great ID dealers that are worth looking into that are not HSU at the $450-$600 range. The main reason I mention this range is that this is the price range that I have found in my experience where start going from Starter Subs to real powerhouses with amazing dynamics.

I personally would focus on Ported subs since you generally get more and lower output for less money.

Elemental Design: They makes some really great subs, but they are not the prettiest in design. A3-250 and A3-300

Some other brands to look at are Epik, Velodyne, and Definitive. There are a lot of options around.

In other words, look around. The sub does not have to match rest of the speakers and if you get a good enough one it will even last a few speakers upgrades.
post #3273 of 4576
I wish someone could compare a PL-200 to the PA-150. I hear they are just about the same thing.

Appears to have the same amp, just different sizes of woofer and cabinet.
post #3274 of 4576
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Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post

I wish someone could compare a PL-200 to the PA-150. I hear they are just about the same thing.

Appears to have the same amp, just different sizes of woofer and cabinet.

That is the worst thing about BIC. There is no place to go to actually listen to these speakers. If it wasn't for these forums, I probably would have never ordered any of my BIC stuff. Now that I have it, I'm thrilled, but I felt like I was taking such a huge monetary risk. I now have a 7.1 BIC system.

Has anyone ever heard of a retailer that actually carries BIC? With their performance and price point, I wonder if BIC is missing out?
post #3275 of 4576
I don't know of anywhere that carries them. Only thing I see around here is Polk, Klipsch and Bose.
post #3276 of 4576
I just received my PL-200 and hooked it up to my rather vintage Kenwood VR-2080 receiver (5.1). My issue is that I have to crank up the volume on the subwoofer to the 12 o'clock position to really hear the bass and I have to boost it to between 2 or 3 o'clock to get any real punch. At 250 watts RMS, I thought I would be just breaking it open to get some sounds. Folks on the forum have said don't even power it on with the volume at a quarter the way up. My room size is about 20 by 15 with a 7.5 ft ceiling - nothing huge. I'm afraid I'm going to toast the BASH amp before it's time. Anyone had similar issues?
post #3277 of 4576
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Originally Posted by THX_Dude View Post

I just received my PL-200 and hooked it up to my rather vintage Kenwood VR-2080 receiver (5.1). My issue is that I have to crank up the volume on the subwoofer to the 12 o'clock position to really hear the bass and I have to boost it to between 2 or 3 o'clock to get any real punch. At 250 watts RMS, I thought I would be just breaking it open to get some sounds. Folks on the forum have said don't even power it on with the volume at a quarter the way up. My room size is about 20 by 15 with a 7.5 ft ceiling - nothing huge. I'm afraid I'm going to toast the BASH amp before it's time. Anyone had similar issues?

Be sure that your sub levels are turned up on your receiver. I keep my PL-200 at about 12:00 too. I sometimes will turn it up higher. I've had it all the way up before and standing next to it hurt my ears from the pressure changes. It really just depends on the levels of low end of the original source. I wouldn't worry about having it at 2:00 or 3:00.
post #3278 of 4576
I just received my Acoustech PL-89 7.0 setup yesterday. Last night I hook them up and placed them where I wanted them and ran Audyssey. Overall I am very pleased with these speakers so far. Can't wait to get them broke in. I love the piano black high gloss finish on these things. The horn loaded aluminum dome tweeter is really amazing.... its the heart and soul of these speakers and sounds incredible.

The only negative I see is the woofers are just paper and the rubber surrounds are not very durable looking or feeling. Not sure if that's an issue or not. I just expected a lil beefier surround.
post #3279 of 4576
Shouldn't be an issue with the paper woofers. I know I love my HT-88s, which look almost identical to what you have and I'm very happy with just those, can't imagine having the whole PL-89 system like yourself.
post #3280 of 4576
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post

I just received my Acoustech PL-89 7.0 setup yesterday. Last night I hook them up and placed them where I wanted them and ran Audyssey. Overall I am very pleased with these speakers so far. Can't wait to get them broke in. I love the piano black high gloss finish on these things. The horn loaded aluminum dome tweeter is really amazing.... its the heart and soul of these speakers and sounds incredible.

The only negative I see is the woofers are just paper and the rubber surrounds are not very durable looking or feeling. Not sure if that's an issue or not. I just expected a lil beefier surround.

On the contrary, paper is still (considered as) the best material for cones. The ability of paper as a material to be transparent, immediate and absent of any coloration are still unmatched (AFAIK). That is the reason, many high-end manufacturers still use paper in cones. E.g. ALL Bose drivers are paper cones, Martin Logan subs are paper cones. Experts on this thread, please let me know feedback on my comment (I am still a newbie audiophile).
post #3281 of 4576
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Originally Posted by harshrk View Post

On the contrary, paper is still (considered as) the best material for cones. The ability of paper as a material to be transparent, immediate and absent of any coloration are still unmatched (AFAIK). That is the reason, many high-end manufacturers still use paper in cones. E.g. ALL Bose drivers are paper cones, Martin Logan subs are paper cones. Experts on this thread, please let me know feedback on my comment (I am still a newbie audiophile).

Using High End and Bose in the same train of thought has lost you all credibility.
post #3282 of 4576
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

Using High End and Bose in the same train of thought has lost you all credibility.

Dude, I know you and many others will come back with this criticism. I just said Bose because, I could not think of any others at that moment. I was in the middle of work but had to reply to the doubt expressed earlier for paper cones
post #3283 of 4576
I don't care what the material is, I just know what sounds good and I think think BICs do just that.
post #3284 of 4576
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Originally Posted by harshrk View Post

Dude, I know you and many others will come back with this criticism. I just said Bose because, I could not think of any others at that moment. I was in the middle of work but had to reply to the doubt expressed earlier for paper cones

Was said in jest and in good fun.
post #3285 of 4576
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the fh6-clr. After reading so much on this site I recently bought Two dv62si and the 10in sub for ambiant music in my upstairs. They more than met my expectations. So I'm gonna try 3 fh6 for the fronts of my home theater (wish I could do the acoustechs but can't do floor standing). If I like them I'm thinking of fh6w (inwalls) for the surrounds and the often praised PL200. You all seem to know your stuff so I'm just asking if anyone has heard these speakers and would either recommend them or against them?
post #3286 of 4576
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJonesBSME View Post

Be sure that your sub levels are turned up on your receiver. I keep my PL-200 at about 12:00 too. I sometimes will turn it up higher. I've had it all the way up before and standing next to it hurt my ears from the pressure changes. It really just depends on the levels of low end of the original source. I wouldn't worry about having it at 2:00 or 3:00.

Thanks Jeffrey for your input. I will check my sub level. I like to use The Matrix series as bass reference.
post #3287 of 4576
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post


The only negative I see is the woofers are just paper and the rubber surrounds are not very durable looking or feeling. Not sure if that's an issue or not. I just expected a lil beefier surround.

Just to add my two-cents worth... I have a pair of Altec Valencia "Voice of the Theater" speakers. Their 15 inch woofers have paper cones. They will be 40 years old in April and after all those years of hard rock and hot jazz, they are still sounding sweet!
post #3288 of 4576
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by russ399 View Post

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the fh6-clr. After reading so much on this site I recently bought Two dv62si and the 10in sub for ambiant music in my upstairs. They more than met my expectations. So I'm gonna try 3 fh6 for the fronts of my home theater (wish I could do the acoustechs but can't do floor standing). If I like them I'm thinking of fh6w (inwalls) for the surrounds and the often praised PL200. You all seem to know your stuff so I'm just asking if anyone has heard these speakers and would either recommend them or against them?

After my parents heard the clarity of my setup, they decided to get the FH6-LCR's. They sound pretty much the same as the HT-75's/HT-65 it just doesn't have the gloss finish and it has a little bit thinner grill. They are a bargain at ~$110/per.
post #3289 of 4576
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

Was said in jest and in good fun.

Understand. I did get that you are said it in jest. The funny thing was while I was typing 'bose' I was thinking that somebody is going to poke me for reference on Bose, and within minutes you replied. Whoa. Will be really careful on this thread hereafter not to utter the 'B' word :-)
post #3290 of 4576
Guys

I need your help here.

I am planning to buy Acoustech 5.1 (or 5.0) setup, but I can't decide between PL76 and PL89. My Living Room is shared with the kitchen area (typical L shaped layout) in an apartment.

I was leaning towards PL76 because, they are compact (easy from WAF), the specs are very close to the top of the line PL89. However, I really need feedback from the current PL76 owners (or non-owners but who know about PL76 towers) about how good is their performance from sound quality POV. I dont care much about loudness level, as obviously it will be more than enough for my room.

The only advantage PL89 which I can guess, is that they would have a little bit of a more resolution and will be louder than 76s. But I am worried that they are too big for my room.

Please advise. Thanks a lot.
post #3291 of 4576
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Originally Posted by harshrk View Post

Guys

I need your help here.

I am planning to buy Acoustech 5.1 (or 5.0) setup, but I can't decide between PL76 and PL89. My Living Room is shared with the kitchen area (typical L shaped layout) in an apartment.

I was leaning towards PL76 because, they are compact (easy from WAF), the specs are very close to the top of the line PL89. However, I really need feedback from the current PL76 owners (or non-owners but who know about PL76 towers) about how good is their performance from sound quality POV. I dont care much about loudness level, as obviously it will be more than enough for my room.

The only advantage PL89 which I can guess, is that they would have a little bit of a more resolution and will be louder than 76s. But I am worried that they are too big for my room.

Please advise. Thanks a lot.

I would choose the pl-76's imo, I have the pl-89's & pl-28 but if i could do it again then i would choose the smaller ones ... I also live in a apartment and my living room is 13x16 that also opens into the kitchen and the the pl 89's & 28 fill it effortlessly . the sq should be the same only difference will be the 89's dig deeper .
post #3292 of 4576
I lived in an apartment but bought for the future. You can always turn the volume knob down. At one point I had my whole system in my 10x12 room. Later, bought the house with a 23x11x8 basement, so buy for the future. Not saying the pl-76 wouldn't be sufficient.
post #3293 of 4576
Hi I have a PL-200 sub. I like it alot. My question and/or concern is that the closer I go to reference level the weaker the sub output is. Is this common? There is no distortion what so ever. The output just decreases. At lower volumes this thing hits u in the chest. At higher the response goes away? Should I contact bic? Thanks for any advice in advance.

-Bryan
post #3294 of 4576
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Originally Posted by vorlen View Post

Well I decided to order the FH6-LCR to give bic a spin. I figure this will give me a chance to demo their quality. I know they make better speakers than the one I ordered but it was 100 bucks and has to be better than my theater in a box 2x2 center channel being used now.

I had a matched Klipsch center channel and when we moved it fell off of the uhaul and split open like a watermelon. Thats why I am using such a crappy center currently. I am sure the FH6 will do fine. It will be here wed of next week if anyone would like a review.

I would like to here your review. I'm close to buying them, but still hesitant to buy something i haven't heard.
post #3295 of 4576
A few months ago my 3 year old knocked down one of my towers and it started sounding funny after that...there appears to be a rattling noise in the tower now.

I recently bought Klipsh tower speakers, but I still love my Acoustech towers...

Is there a way to fix it?
post #3296 of 4576
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Originally Posted by THX_Dude View Post

Just to add my two-cents worth... I have a pair of Altec Valencia "Voice of the Theater" speakers. Their 15 inch woofers have paper cones. They will be 40 years old in April and after all those years of hard rock and hot jazz, they are still sounding sweet!

Great to know....... I had a lil time to play these things and they sound amazing. Played a few blu-rays as I was working around the house, and played 2 music cds, and watched a lil bit of HD Cable. All I have to say is WOW I am totally impressed. The highs and mids are incredible and voices are so rich and clear (huge pro as far as WAF is concerned). I played in 2 ch stereo, all ch stereo with music with my subs on and off. I was pleased to hear how rich and deep the bass is with the 89s with the subs off. And man that port is huge in diameter and short in length never saw anything like that before.
post #3297 of 4576
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Originally Posted by King_David View Post

A few months ago my 3 year old knocked down one of my towers and it started sounding funny after that...there appears to be a rattling noise in the tower now.

I recently bought Klipsh tower speakers, but I still love my Acoustech towers...

Is there a way to fix it?

First thing to do is to open it up and look inside for something that may have broken loose.
post #3298 of 4576
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Originally Posted by Dave1027 View Post

First thing to do is to open it up and look inside for something that may have broken loose.

I did.

The gadget on the inside came loose, and is just dangling. It seems that the glue that was holding it in place broke off or came unglued.

Any suggestions?

They're BIC Acoustech HT-75
post #3299 of 4576
What gadget came loose?
post #3300 of 4576
most likely its the crossover that is loose and probably got damaged ... at least that's what it sounds like too me
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