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post #3391 of 4576
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Originally Posted by Duke Broadway View Post

I was told the horn loaded sysy is better for home theater as yje dialogue is very crisp and clear. Of music was your main focus a dome tweeter system would be better.

The sys is 75% movies 25% music. I don't expect audiophile grade speakers but better than the rc85i's that I have musically.
post #3392 of 4576
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Originally Posted by Duke Broadway View Post

I was told the horn loaded sysy is better for home theater as yje dialogue is very crisp and clear. Of music was your main focus a dome tweeter system would be better.

That's the great thing with BIC their horn loaded tweeters ARE dome tweeters. They are 1" aluminum domes set back in a 6.5" square horn. This is why they aren't as bright or harsh as some say Klipsch are. Klipsch and several other horn loaded speakers use compression drivers for their tweeters.

The PL-89s I have I absolutely love!!! They are not the most musical speakers but they still sound good, and they are amazing for tv/movies. Movie night at my house is an experience for the rest of my family and my friends.
post #3393 of 4576
Had anybody done an actual comparison between the 76 and 86 to verify which has better midbass response? Also how would these stack up against the Polk audio tsi500 or monitor 70's?
post #3394 of 4576
Hi All. Became a "member of the family" today. I just purchased the PL-621 minus the sub. I already had a BIC sub. I can't wait to get the speakers. They will replacing my JBL S series gear.
post #3395 of 4576
So here is where I stand on upgrades.

I currently have an ORB mod 1 5.1 surround with a marantz 5003 (love this receiver). I ust bought the F12 sub and love it to death after the crappy little super8 sub took a crap. I have a chance to pick up the entire FH line (to inlcude towers, center, and bookshelves) for $558. I figure I should be able to sell all 5 ORBs for around $400-$450 on EBAY and only but out $150ish.

What do you guys think? I just hate having to cross this 12" sub at 120Hz. Everything is extremely directional.

Should I jump on this deal and never think twice?

Thanks all!
post #3396 of 4576
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Originally Posted by eyelobes View Post

So here is where I stand on upgrades.
I currently have an ORB mod 1 5.1 surround with a marantz 5003 (love this receiver). I ust bought the F12 sub and love it to death after the crappy little super8 sub took a crap. I have a chance to pick up the entire FH line (to inlcude towers, center, and bookshelves) for $558. I figure I should be able to sell all 5 ORBs for around $400-$450 on EBAY and only but out $150ish.
What do you guys think? I just hate having to cross this 12" sub at 120Hz. Everything is extremely directional.
Should I jump on this deal and never think twice?
Thanks all!

I say go for the new speakers from BIC.... Another couple options with BIC speakers. You could get 5 or 7 (depending on 5.1 or 7.1) of the FH6-LCR speakers. They can be mounted vertically and horizontally, that would give a perfect seemless soundstage. OR consider 2 towers along with 3 LCRs ( reason I say this is the bookshelf speakers are rear ported, not good for mounting on wall, but the LCRs are sealed so fine for mounting on wall).
post #3397 of 4576
Would you recommend 3 FH6_LCRs wall mounted as opposed to 1 LCR as a center and the FH6 towers? I have a 50" pioneer kuro and wonder if the protrusions of the speakers would be ugly as sin.
post #3398 of 4576
Bump for answer to question, i'm looking to buy tomorrow at the earliest. Thanks guys!!!
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^^^ That really is up to you..... I have towers and love them. I think they look cool and with the bigger cabinet they will dig a lil deeper with bass, they are also front ported which will increase bass response. I've seen systems built several different ways. Towers and an LCR or 3 LCRs or bookshelfs and LCR. I prefer either the towers and LCR or 3 LCRs.
post #3400 of 4576
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post

^^^ That really is up to you..... I have towers and love them. I think they look cool and with the bigger cabinet they will dig a lil deeper with bass, they are also front ported which will increase bass response. I've seen systems built several different ways. Towers and an LCR or 3 LCRs or bookshelfs and LCR. I prefer either the towers and LCR or 3 LCRs.

What model towers do you have?
post #3401 of 4576
Well, just ordered 5 Formula FH6-LCRs to replace the little 3" orbs that I have. My only worry is the massiveness of these new speakers....no i have to figure out where to put the damn things. I figure once I get into a good size house i'm going to move the L/R channels to the rear or sides and buy the FH6Ts for a complete 7.1 setup (even though pretty much no movies and zero video games use it lol.
post #3402 of 4576
Pulled the trigger on the Acoustechs. Decided to go with the PL-89 towers after all, didn't want to feel like i shoulda splurged when I had the chance. I also ordered the PL-26 center, PL-66 surrounds, and a PL-200 sub. These will be joining my HT-63s and H-100 sub for 7.2 surround, powered by a Onkyo TX-NR709 I just ordered. Should be a big upgrade over my current speakers!!
post #3403 of 4576
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Originally Posted by eapleitez View Post

Pulled the trigger on the Acoustechs. Decided to go with the PL-89 towers after all, didn't want to feel like i shoulda splurged when I had the chance. I also ordered the PL-26 center, PL-66 surrounds, and a PL-200 sub. These will be joining my HT-63s and H-100 sub for 7.2 surround, powered by a Onkyo TX-NR709 I just ordered. Should be a big upgrade over my current speakers!!

Please let me know how u like them. If you listen to music please give me a rundown. In the market for the 76 due to the midbass response of the 6.5". But my concern is also of the tweeter sound. Your help would be great as I'm lookin heavily at the bics.
post #3404 of 4576
Sure thing, but it might be a week or more before I have this all set and calibrated. And then I have to run it through its paces smile.gif.

I listen to rock music (all different kinds) mostly. I'll put on some Rush to check out the bass notes cool.gif
post #3405 of 4576
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Originally Posted by eapleitez View Post

Sure thing, but it might be a week or more before I have this all set and calibrated. And then I have to run it through its paces smile.gif.

I listen to rock music (all different kinds) mostly. I'll put on some Rush to check out the bass notes cool.gif

Thanks! I listen to pretty much everything. Rock can give ear fatigue on low end speakers so if it sounds good in these ill probably snag a set!

My polks give me bad ear fatigue when jammin any thing.
post #3406 of 4576
8 subs in your house!? Boy, I am glad I don't live below you! smile.gif
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Sorry..posted in the wrong thread and the edit function doesn't seem to be working....
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OK,

Got my fh-6 LCRs in yesterday and hooked them up. I haven't had a chance to run Audyssey on them yet after the Orbs, but i put the x-over from 120Hz down to 80Hz. My immediate reaction was the difference in the sensitivity of the speakers and how much clearer dialog in the center was. I am running my Marantz at -24 instead of -9 for decent audio smile.gif I still need to get stands for the L/R/S speakers to finish it off. Can't wait to calibrate them and hear them after break in, all this for only $560 with next day shipping!!! Stupid Orbs cost me $120 a pop.

Here is my setup now.

5 LCRs, F12 Sub and Marantz SR5003 fed to Pioneer Kuro. When I have a bigger space I'm going to add the FH6Ts for L/R and move the two up from and make a 7.1 setup.

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post #3409 of 4576
So it's a toss up. Polk audio monitor 60's or the fh-6t's.
post #3410 of 4576
I'm going to pull the trigger on some Bic FH series speakers tonight or tomorrow morning. I was wondering if anybody had opinions on 3 FH6-LCR and a sub vs 2 FH-6T and a sub. I would be using them mostly for Movies and some gaming/music with my roommates. Thanks for any input! I think the 3.1 system might be better for dialog in movies, but I'm really not sure about that nor am I qualified to make that assumtion. The towers look great and might be easier to place so the 2.1 is enticing for that reason.
Edited by anuj1450 - 6/10/12 at 7:46pm
post #3411 of 4576
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Originally Posted by anuj1450 View Post

I'm going to pull the trigger on some Bic FH series speakers tonight or tomorrow morning. I was wondering if anybody had opinions on 3 FH6-LCR and a sub vs 2 FH-6T and a sub. I would be using them mostly for Movies and some gaming/music with my roommates. Thanks for any input! I think the 3.1 system might be better for dialog in movies, but I'm really not sure about that nor am I qualified to make that assumtion. The towers look great and might be easier to place so the 2.1 is enticing for that reason.

Personally, I would go with the 2 FH-6T's and a sub if you have $250+ for the sub. If not get the two towers and a center. You said you budget was $500 right, and you already purchased receiver for $200. I am fairly certain you will be able to get 2 FH-6T's for $140 each using Best Price option. Unless you are spending a minimum $275 on your sub, you are better off getting the two floor standing speakers paired with a the FH-6LCR and saving for a Sub. You will be surprised how much a couple of decent towers can output in the low end.

I know you want your money to go as far as possible but if you are getting good speakers like these, it would be a shame to pair them with a sub-$200 sub ( no pun intended). Your best bet for best sound quality right now would be 2 FH-6T's and a if you have enough add on the FH-6LCR for a great front sound stage. Then, when you have the money splurge a bit on a sub that costs at least $250+ like the H-100 or H-200, or even a really nice STF-1 from HSU. I once heard some great advice that I pass on to other now. The advice is this, your receiver should cost 1/3 of the price of your speakers. You sub should cost at minimum, as much as your front two speakers, but better performance if it is near the cost of your front 3. Now this is just a general guideline of course but I have found you get more synergy following these guidelines.
post #3412 of 4576
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

Personally, I would go with the 2 FH-6T's and a sub if you have $250+ for the sub. If not get the two towers and a center. You said you budget was $500 right, and you already purchased receiver for $200. I am fairly certain you will be able to get 2 FH-6T's for $140 each using Best Price option. Unless you are spending a minimum $275 on your sub, you are better off getting the two floor standing speakers paired with a the FH-6LCR and saving for a Sub. You will be surprised how much a couple of decent towers can output in the low end.
I know you want your money to go as far as possible but if you are getting good speakers like these, it would be a shame to pair them with a sub-$200 sub ( no pun intended). Your best bet for best sound quality right now would be 2 FH-6T's and a if you have enough add on the FH-6LCR for a great front sound stage. Then, when you have the money splurge a bit on a sub that costs at least $250+ like the H-100 or H-200, or even a really nice STF-1 from HSU. I once heard some great advice that I pass on to other now. The advice is this, your receiver should cost 1/3 of the price of your speakers. You sub should cost at minimum, as much as your front two speakers, but better performance if it is near the cost of your front 3. Now this is just a general guideline of course but I have found you get more synergy following these guidelines.

Thanks for the quick reply. I am extending my budget somewhat, and I have enough money to spend on either 2 towers ($155 each shipped) or 3 of the LCRs ($112 each shipped). My main concern was whether 3.1 would be much better than 2.1 for dialog or if the difference wouldn't be as noticable as I imagine. I was just listening to the old 5.1 Yamaha HTiB at my parent's house and noticing that the center carries a lot of the dialog. Would this be less of a weakness in better speakers like the FH-6Ts?

Edit: I'll be purchasing or building a sub that will be adequate for a large room at normal levels in the very near future. Low end response isn't a HUGE deal from the speakers (although it's nice to have a backup). Placement issues, dialog, and clarity are my main concerns.
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Hey guys I was looking to get some new speakers and I really like the Klipsch RC-62 and RF-62's. I have read alot that says these speakers are very close to klipsch. So I was wondering if anyone has heard the RC-62 and how they would compare to the PL-76 and the PL-26. I am trying to figure out if the Klipsch Is worth 3 times the price difference for the speakers. Thank you!
post #3414 of 4576
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Originally Posted by anuj1450 View Post

Thanks for the quick reply. I am extending my budget somewhat, and I have enough money to spend on either 2 towers ($155 each shipped) or 3 of the LCRs ($112 each shipped). My main concern was whether 3.1 would be much better than 2.1 for dialog or if the difference wouldn't be as noticable as I imagine. I was just listening to the old 5.1 Yamaha HTiB at my parent's house and noticing that the center carries a lot of the dialog. Would this be less of a weakness in better speakers like the FH-6Ts?
Edit: I'll be purchasing or building a sub that will be adequate for a large room at normal levels in the very near future. Low end response isn't a HUGE deal from the speakers (although it's nice to have a backup). Placement issues, dialog, and clarity are my main concerns.

It is very true that when you have your system setup to run in 5.1 the majority of the sound comes from the Center speaker. Usually most dialog comes out of the center channel along with an equal part of music compared to the left and right channel. If you play movies and music in Stereo the voices usually come out equally on both the left and right channel speaker. Since this is a little less efficient voices won't sound quite as clear since they are coming out of speakers that have to handle all other sound duties. If you really cannot afford the two towers+center than you may be better off getting the 3 LCRs for dialogue purposes in movies.

Obviously you can only get what you can afford, but don't forget that the BIC sellers at http://www.bicacoustechspeakers.com and http://www.sounddistributors.com and Ebay all have a "Best Offer" button. You can also email them. I am fairly certain that if you sent an email or called them and let them know you were referred to by AVS forums you would get a great price. I think if you ask them, you could probably get 2 towers plus the LCR for Center at only $375 or maybe a touch higher. In fact, one thing you can do is purchase the 3 LCR's then save for the fronts later and move the LCR's to your side or rear speakers later.
Edited by raistline - 6/13/12 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

Obviously you can only get what you can afford, but don't forget that the BIC sellers at http://www.bicacoustechspeakers.com and http:/www.sounddistributors.com and Ebay all have a "Best Offer" button. You can also email them. I am fairly certain that if you sent an email or called them and let them know you were referred to by AVS forums you would get a great price. I think if you ask them, you could probably get 2 towers plus the LCR for Center at only $375 or maybe a touch higher. In fact, one thing you can do is purchase the 3 LCR's then save for the fronts later and move the LCR's to your side or rear speakers later.

Ok great, I'll try to offer something that would make it fit in my budget, otherwise I'll just go ahead and get 3 LCR's. I'm sure I'll be happy with any of these compared to what I've been listening to lately rolleyes.gif Thanks for the help, I'll let you guys know what happens!
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Just wanted to let you guys know. If you can afford the $50 for an SPL meter from RadioShack I highly reccomend it. I did a 6 poit Audyssey calibration yesterday and it set my distances way off, my X-over to 160Hz and volumes were all over the place. Picked up the sound meter this morning, set my X-over to 60hz and tuned everything to 75dB on C Weighting @ slow, then i took out my tape measure and got the exact distances to all speakers to the center of the couch and set them in the marantz. OMFG the difference is huge!!!! all 5 of these LCRs blend perfect now and this is only day 3, can't wait until breakin. Just saying. Now i just need an elite board swap for the Kuro 5020 and then call out someone to properly calibrate this dinosaur smile.gif
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post


That's the great thing with BIC their horn loaded tweeters ARE dome tweeters. They are 1" aluminum domes set back in a 6.5" square horn. This is why they aren't as bright or harsh as some say Klipsch are. Klipsch and several other horn loaded speakers use compression drivers for their tweeters.


The PL-89s I have I absolutely love!!! They are not the most musical speakers but they still sound good, and they are amazing for tv/movies. Movie night at my house is an experience for the rest of my family and my friends.

I just got done talking to Mike who sells the PL-89's, glad to hear that you really like them. My concern is that you say they are not the most musical speakers? Thats too bad because music is a concern of mine as well because I like to watch a lot of concerts and acoustical stuff on my main theater system. I was even thinking about running the PL-89's in large mode without a sub because it seems they go pretty low. Have you tried this? Maybe the HSU's are a little more musical than the BIC's?
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Originally Posted by dunnmike View Post

Please let me know how u like them. If you listen to music please give me a rundown. In the market for the 76 due to the midbass response of the 6.5". But my concern is also of the tweeter sound. Your help would be great as I'm lookin heavily at the bics.

Yes!!!! Please let us know how they perform on music. I too am looking heavily at the BIC PL-89's. One of the main reasons though is I like the two 8 inch woofers and the specs say they go down to the 25hz range. Thats pretty impressive. When I listen to music, I usually listen in direct mode running my towers full range without a sub, so this is going to be a key factor. If the BIC's do not perform well on music, I will have to look elsewhere. Even though I would say that 75% is movies, shows, sports or video games, the 25% of the time I spend listening to music or watching concerts, I want to be able to really enjoy.
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Originally Posted by dunnmike View Post

Please let me know how u like them. If you listen to music please give me a rundown. In the market for the 76 due to the midbass response of the 6.5". But my concern is also of the tweeter sound. Your help would be great as I'm lookin heavily at the bics.

Yes!!!! Please let us know how they perform on music. I too am looking heavily at the BIC PL-89's. One of the main reasons though is I like the two 8 inch woofers and the specs say they go down to the 25hz range. Thats pretty impressive. When I listen to music, I usually listen in direct mode running my towers full range without a sub, so this is going to be a key factor. If the BIC's do not perform well on music, I will have to look elsewhere. Even though I would say that 75% is movies, shows, sports or video games, the 25% of the time I spend listening to music or watching concerts, I want to be able to really enjoy.
I pulled the trigger on the monitor 60 from Polk. Price was unbeatable. But I still have another room to outfit so bic is still on the menu.
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Originally Posted by dunnmike View Post

I pulled the trigger on the monitor 60 from Polk. Price was unbeatable. But I still have another room to outfit so bic is still on the menu.

Where did you buy the Polk?
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