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post #3601 of 4070
Wow! I am sorry to hear about your experience... I have never had any trouble with my speakers and I absolutely love them.
post #3602 of 4070
thanks flick.........somebody had to get the bad one and i guess that was me this time. Months of frustration though.

I'm sure some of you have noticed this day and age that with all the toys we have and all of the businesses.. things go along great until the big break.. then it seems like these companies dont have near as many people in service as they do in production.
I have heard horror stories of how some people have been jerked around..
Very recently a big computer company that begins with 'D' did this to me. our desktop was a toward the top of the line 4 years ago. somewhere in the middle of the warranty the grafics cards went out, there was 2 and they replaced both of them. 1 month after the 4 yr extended warranty was up the computer died.guy we took it to said prob the mother board. and he said quite possibly related to the earlier prob.
long story short 'D' wouldnt cover it.
so we bought an ASUS replacement. we also need to replace a laptop..big D lost that sale also. They are eager to sell but not so eager after..

not a rant

just observation.
post #3603 of 4070
Has anyone ever tried running PL-28 as Left and Right channel speakers? Since they have key slots on the back, they would be easy to hang.
post #3604 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

Has anyone ever tried running PL-28 as Left and Right channel speakers? Since they have key slots on the back, they would be easy to hang.
I havent done it but they are designed to be used that way if desired. I have heard other people do it and say they were happy with it. Had a 28 for F,L and center.
post #3605 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I havent done it but they are designed to be used that way if desired. I have heard other people do it and say they were happy with it. Had a 28 for F,L and center.

Thanks for the reply. I'm really curious to see how they would sound. Would there be much mid-bass loss?

What about the BIC bookshelf (FH-65B) speakers? Has anyone used them with the PL-28?
post #3606 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

Thanks for the reply. I'm really curious to see how they would sound. Would there be much mid-bass loss?
What about the BIC bookshelf (FH-65B) speakers? Has anyone used them with the PL-28?
If you dont mind going with a 6" then get 3 FH6 LCR. Sounds identical to the PL 26 (trust me, I had both). With the $200 or so you will save over PL 26s or especially the PL 28s you can get a BIC F12 sub and definitely wont have to worry about bass.
post #3607 of 4070
I use the FH6-LCR that way and get great results. In fact I'm using them for all 5 channels in a 5.2 setup. I would have done it with the 28s but I saved a lot of money with the FH6s and since I'm using dual subs the extra bass extension of the 28s wasn't really needed. You shouldn't lose any midbass if you are using a sub and cross them over at a reasonable point. The 28s will dig pretty low.
post #3608 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

If you dont mind going with a 6" then get 3 FH6 LCR. Sounds identical to the PL 26 (trust me, I had both). With the $200 or so you will save over PL 26s or especially the PL 28s you can get a BIC F12 sub and definitely wont have to worry about bass.

I'd like to have all my speakers have the same look. The PL-28 has a nice shiny black while the LCR is wood grain. The lady is the really picky one, thats why I was wondering if the smaller bookshelf speakers would work or getting (2) more PL-28's.

I have a PL-200 and a F12. Looking to step up to something a little more powerful though.
post #3609 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Audiophile2k View Post

I use the FH6-LCR that way and get great results. In fact I'm using them for all 5 channels in a 5.2 setup. I would have done it with the 28s but I saved a lot of money with the FH6s and since I'm using dual subs the extra bass extension of the 28s wasn't really needed. You shouldn't lose any midbass if you are using a sub and cross them over at a reasonable point. The 28s will dig pretty low.

Have you heard the 28's as L & R channel? How do they do?

I have (2) subs right now but am looking to get SVS or HSU now. The PL-200 has given me a taste of decent bass and now I want MORE!! haha
post #3610 of 4070
I have not personally heard them, but they are the same design as my speakers with larger drivers. The only difference should be a couple more db/watt and slightly lower extension...but if you are going to use a good sub that really won't come into play. So I think it is safe to say if you are happy with your 28 as center speaker, you'll be very happy with them as L and R also. The sound is really clean and open without being too bright.
post #3611 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

Have you heard the 28's as L & R channel? How do they do?
I have (2) subs right now but am looking to get SVS or HSU now. The PL-200 has given me a taste of decent bass and now I want MORE!! haha
The 28s will sound nearly identical to the FH6s but have a little better bass which probably wont even be noticeable with a sub. Big difference in price for a shiny black cabinet but it sounds like you can afford it.
post #3612 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

The 28s will sound nearly identical to the FH6s but have a little better bass which probably wont even be noticeable with a sub. Big difference in price for a shiny black cabinet but it sounds like you can afford it.

We are "remodeling" our living room so i'm getting to splurge. Plus I am selling my Polk 70's and the rest of my Polk speakers to fund the new sub.
post #3613 of 4070
<<<<<--- I sold my toy, a picture of it is my avatar. I'll miss it but the house is more important.
post #3614 of 4070
Do not use the PL-28 as LCR unless you have all 3 laying flat. The horn Tweeter on the PL-26 and PL-28 is not fully square. It is designed to sound best in the horizontal position. The horn tweeter in the FH6-LCR has a completely square horn and that is why it can be used in any of the LCR positions and in either Tall or horizontal.
post #3615 of 4070
^^^ Agreed....... Is it possible to rotate the horn in the speaker enclosure? To make it operate in the vertical position as it does in the horizontal position.

Personally I wish the Acoustech line would just be the luxury version of the Formula line. For instance the Acoustech line doesn't have a current bookshelf speaker as the Formula line does. Also as stated Acoustech doesn't have an LCR speaker. If they did I would have bought 2 - PL-89s for front L&R and 5 - PL-28 LCRs as a horizontal center and then vertical surrounds and vertical surround backs. IMO that would give a more dynamic and also matched complete sound stage.
post #3616 of 4070
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post

^^^ Agreed....... Is it possible to rotate the horn in the speaker enclosure? To make it operate in the vertical position as it does in the horizontal position.
Personally I wish the Acoustech line would just be the luxury version of the Formula line. For instance the Acoustech line doesn't have a current bookshelf speaker as the Formula line does. Also as stated Acoustech doesn't have an LCR speaker. If they did I would have bought 2 - PL-89s for front L&R and 5 - PL-28 LCRs as a horizontal center and then vertical surrounds and vertical surround backs. IMO that would give a more dynamic and also matched complete sound stage.
You are not able to rotate the horns for two reasons. First, since it is not entirely square, it won't fit if rotated. The second reason is that bottom is cut out slightly to fit the Acoustech label.
post #3617 of 4070
Ok gottcha. Never look at it that close. Didn't know if just the inside of the horn wasn't square but the outside mounting flange was.
post #3618 of 4070
Few months ago I purchased 4 FH6-LCR's to mount on the wall (vertically) when I rearranged my sports/media/HT room. I previously had Def-Tech towers as FL/FR and all 4 surround positions. My front stage is now CHT SHO-10 L/C/R and the BIC's keep up decently well as the surrounds aren't asked to do quite as much. They were chosen because of their slim depth. I didn't want an in-wall or in-ceiling set up and my wife very nicely asked to not put anything too "obnoxious" on the wall. I wanted the horn set up and these fit the bill. Super cheap and efficient enough to keep up they are a solid budget speaker.
post #3619 of 4070
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

Do not use the PL-28 as LCR unless you have all 3 laying flat. The horn Tweeter on the PL-26 and PL-28 is not fully square. It is designed to sound best in the horizontal position. The horn tweeter in the FH6-LCR has a completely square horn and that is why it can be used in any of the LCR positions and in either Tall or horizontal.

Thanks! I was planning on having them vertical. Looks like I'll be getting the bookshelf speakers. Would it be better to get the PL-26 so that the front stage all have 6" woofers? or does it really matter?
post #3620 of 4070
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Originally Posted by thebriman View Post

Few months ago I purchased 4 FH6-LCR's to mount on the wall (vertically) when I rearranged my sports/media/HT room. I previously had Def-Tech towers as FL/FR and all 4 surround positions. My front stage is now CHT SHO-10 L/C/R and the BIC's keep up decently well as the surrounds aren't asked to do quite as much. They were chosen because of their slim depth. I didn't want an in-wall or in-ceiling set up and my wife very nicely asked to not put anything too "obnoxious" on the wall. I wanted the horn set up and these fit the bill. Super cheap and efficient enough to keep up they are a solid budget speaker.

What brand of Def-Tech did you have? How did they compare to BIC? I've been debating on switching over.
post #3621 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

Thanks! I was planning on having them vertical. Looks like I'll be getting the bookshelf speakers. Would it be better to get the PL-26 so that the front stage all have 6" woofers? or does it really matter?

As I stated Acoustech doesn't have current bookshelf speakers. So are you getting the BIC Formula ones? If your not getting towers just get 3 FH6-LCRs use 2 vertical and 1 horizontal.
post #3622 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

What brand of Def-Tech did you have? How did they compare to BIC? I've been debating on switching over.

BP-8060ST FL/FR, CS-8060HD Center, BP-8040ST SSL/SSR, BP7006 SL/SR. All 7 positions had powered subs. Sounded great having more localized/channelized midbass when all I had was an Outlaw LFM-1EX sub. When I moved up to the dual CHT VS18.1's I ditched the def tech set up for a more sensitive one. I wasnt unhappy with the def tech set up just moving to something different. I needed to mount all the surrounds with thin depth so the FH6-LCR was on my list. Obviously as a full range speaker the def-tech has the advantage but crossed at 80hz I would say i prefer the BIC's. I dont listen to much music so this is all strictly for movies, TV (lots of sports), and games. I definitely prefer a horn setup now having listened to a few different ones. I would say during movies they are slightly more accurate and lighter background noises come through more as they were intended. By no means are these in the same league as SHO-10's, JTR's, or a JBL pro setup but they hold their own for what they are.
post #3623 of 4070
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post

As I stated Acoustech doesn't have current bookshelf speakers. So are you getting the BIC Formula ones? If your not getting towers just get 3 FH6-LCRs use 2 vertical and 1 horizontal.
He wants the shiny Acoustech cabinets.
post #3624 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

He wants the shiny Acoustech cabinets.

I'd like the speakers to match. I'm open to different options. We are putting a decent amount of money into fixing up the front room. Adding a fireplace and rock wall + mantle. So with doing all that, I don't want to have mismatched speakers.
post #3625 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

He wants the shiny Acoustech cabinets.

The problem with that is Acoustech does not have a current bookshelf speaker. So if he wants shiny cabinets AND if he wants yo use them the way they were designed to be used he would have to get the towers for Front L&R and then the matching center. If he can't do towers then his front speakers won't match and/or they won't have the shiny finish.

@ Randall... Whatever you decide to get I would get all speakers from the same line and I would get the front 3 to have matching size drivers.
post #3626 of 4070
Do you think it's worth the price difference to get the PL-76 over the FH-6T? I have a BIC F-12 sub and would be upgrading my towers, but not sure the Acoustech line is primarily cosmetic, or a significant audio upgrade over the Formula line.
post #3627 of 4070
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post

The problem with that is Acoustech does not have a current bookshelf speaker. So if he wants shiny cabinets AND if he wants yo use them the way they were designed to be used he would have to get the towers for Front L&R and then the matching center. If he can't do towers then his front speakers won't match and/or they won't have the shiny finish.
@ Randall... Whatever you decide to get I would get all speakers from the same line and I would get the front 3 to have matching size drivers.

Thank you. Thats what I was wondering. I'm having a hard time giving up these BIC speakers. For once I'm actually happy with how my movies sound.
post #3628 of 4070
For the price I love my Acoustechs and I don't think you can beat them for the price. I also have dual Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus subs and its a very solid setup. Most friends and family say the sound is better than the local theater.
post #3629 of 4070
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Originally Posted by flickhtguru View Post

For the price I love my Acoustechs and I don't think you can beat them for the price. I also have dual Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus subs and its a very solid setup. Most friends and family say the sound is better than the local theater.

I'm looking for a quality sub now. Been looking at HSU, how do they compare to the Outlaw sub?
post #3630 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Randall.White View Post

I'm looking for a quality sub now. Been looking at HSU, how do they compare to the Outlaw sub?
Wrong forum. Depends on which ones you are comparing. They are both good quality.
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