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post #3811 of 4070
I, actually, already have a set of PL-66's I'm using for my side-surrounds and they are perched atop the stands I was using for my Aperion bookshelf speakers. The only thing is they are sitting on the stands - not mounted/secured cuz the PL-66's do not come with a way to attach them to standard bookshelf stands: they only have rear mounting brackets.
post #3812 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

I, actually, already have a set of PL-66's I'm using for my side-surrounds and they are perched atop the stands I was using for my Aperion bookshelf speakers. The only thing is they are sitting on the stands - not mounted/secured cuz the PL-66's do not come with a way to attach them to standard bookshelf stands: they only have rear mounting brackets.

I guess thats why i am confused..i thought the pl-66's doubled as side and rear surrounds because of the rear mounting...or are they specifically only made for the rear surrounds of a 7.1 setup?
post #3813 of 4070
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Originally Posted by cnavas41807 View Post

I guess thats why i am confused..i thought the pl-66's doubled as side and rear surrounds because of the rear mounting...or are they specifically only made for the rear surrounds of a 7.1 setup?
In the installation/instructions for the PL-66 they, actually, show a layout showing them used as both the sides and rear surrounds in a 7.1 set up. I can't recall if they show them strictly used as rear-surrounds w/o side surrounds.
post #3814 of 4070
i need to get a hold a manual showing the different configuration...so the pl-66's are not bipole then like your Asperions?
post #3815 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

In the installation/instructions for the PL-66 they, actually, show a layout showing them used as both the sides and rear surrounds in a 7.1 set up. I can't recall if they show them strictly used as rear-surrounds w/o side surrounds.

by you saying that they are showed with them being used as side and rear surrounds in a 7.1 do you mean 1 pair of pl-66's connected to the side and rear surrounds ? or it shows two sets of pl-66's to be used for the side and rears?
post #3816 of 4070
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Originally Posted by cnavas41807 View Post

by you saying that they are showed with them being used as side and rear surrounds in a 7.1 do you mean 1 pair of pl-66's connected to the side and rear surrounds ? or it shows two sets of pl-66's to be used for the side and rears?
a total of 4 each PL-66's.
post #3817 of 4070
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Originally Posted by cnavas41807 View Post

Indeed bought the onkyo nr-616 a couple of weeks ago, just been trying to find the best set up for my situation..by "work" i guess i meant would the sound be pretty decent as both the fh56-bar and pl-66's have great reviews but i haven't heard of anyone using the setup.
I was going to use them as a 7.1 ...i thought they acted as two seperate speakers like a bipole speaker?..thats why i was mounting them on the rear because i thought i could use them as my right and left surround as well as the rears....guess im confused lol...im sure u get what im trying to accomplish just a simple 5.1 or 7.1 system without from floor standing speakers and no IN-walls.. but thank you for letting me know that..just getting into this and have been spending hours online looking things up..i feel like its a second job creating a home theater lol
well there is not a lot of space left after my component shelf and subwoofer take up most of the room..under the tv is going to be a fireplace so i didn't want to overload that wall and my wife is pretty firm on if im going to do it just no FRONT floor standing speakers..thats why i was thinking the fh56-bar ...also my beautiful word doc of a sketch isn't completely to scale lol so don't mind me and my drafting skills lol.my walls are completely open and im trying to figure out my speaker placement so there are ZERO wires showing..its just extremely hard to plan a system with no speakers and no walls yet..

First off please dont go the sound bar route. Its sounds terrible. They always have and always will. If you are going to spend the money on a nice reciver which you did then don't put up s h i t speakers like a sound bar. And if you want it to sound good. I mean not BOSE gay. Then you need floor stand speakers. Weather your wife likes them or not the fact is that is what you need. She will learn to get over it. I swear what is with men becomming such little girls around here, and bowing to there wifes every will. This is home theater, not the little boy's room who has to ask for everything. that was not directed to anybody specific, just a horrible trend I am noticing. but the point is you need towers, and towers are not that big. They really are not. And if you are doing to do it then you need to do it right. Also if you are going to use a sound bar, then you have no need for your reciever at all. It completely defeats the purpose. It cant do a real L C R no matte what brand or price you look at.
post #3818 of 4070
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Originally Posted by metalguy View Post

First off please dont go the sound bar route. Its sounds terrible. They always have and always will. If you are going to spend the money on a nice reciver which you did then don't put up s h i t speakers like a sound bar. And if you want it to sound good. I mean not BOSE gay. Then you need floor stand speakers. Weather your wife likes them or not the fact is that is what you need. She will learn to get over it. I swear what is with men becomming such little girls around here, and bowing to there wifes every will. This is home theater, not the little boy's room who has to ask for everything. that was not directed to anybody specific, just a horrible trend I am noticing. but the point is you need towers, and towers are not that big. They really are not. And if you are doing to do it then you need to do it right. Also if you are going to use a sound bar, then you have no need for your reciever at all. It completely defeats the purpose. It cant do a real L C R no matte what brand or price you look at.

Well since its the living room and everyone will be in there and im completely deisgning it to my spec i figured i'd give in on one aspect such as the front speakers...but i know what you mean was just trying to meet in the middle. ofcourse i want it to sound good..already have the onkyo 616 and acoustech pl-200..thats why i was asking what ppl would do in my set up with one side wall and the other side open..not easy to do side surrounds with an open wall without it looking ridiculous...i've seen some set ups and some people have too congested of an entertainment system..i want a clean look with great sound..

ok so i get a stand alone center with two floor standing fronts...how am i going to do a surround with open space instead of a wall on the right side..the closest wall to the right side is about 10 feet away from where the living room starts...its a bathroom/closet wall..just an open walkway between that and the livingroom..
post #3819 of 4070
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Originally Posted by metalguy View Post

I swear what is with men becomming such little girls around here, and bowing to there wifes every will. This is home theater, not the little boy's room who has to ask for everything. that was not directed to anybody specific, just a horrible trend I am noticing.
Hah, I definitely concur. Although not as blunt as your reply, I've casually mentioned observing the same a few months back. Maybe I don't get it, I've never been married. That said, the forum is anything but a ringing endorsement for nuptials. Enjoy your BICs everyone!
post #3820 of 4070
i've made a lot of decisions in the house renovation...just meeting in the middle not BOWING DOWN smile.gif
post #3821 of 4070
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Originally Posted by cnavas41807 View Post

i've made a lot of decisions in the house renovation...just meeting in the middle not BOWING DOWN smile.gif
sure you are, what difference does it make if you got to make the renovation decisions,. if you want towers then have towers. whats she gonna do leave you over towers, leave you over what it is you like and love and want? I doubt it.
post #3822 of 4070
I think ur going a little overboard..maybe mad at ur wife? I dunno..all u had to say was dont go with the fh56..I also stated I didnt want to overload that small wall but I get your point on not giving in on sound so thank u for ur underlyinggg point lol...let the point be made that I can have floor standing but was trying to get away from it because of space..my main question is what to do for surrounds..but thanks
post #3823 of 4070
cnavas41807

According to your picture, is this an enclosed room with one door/entrance?

If so, you have some much better options.

Give us the dimensions of your room.
post #3824 of 4070
cnavas41807

Why not something like this?


post #3825 of 4070
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJonesBSME View Post

cnavas41807

According to your picture, is this an enclosed room with one door/entrance?

If so, you have some much better options.

Give us the dimensions of your room.[/qu lr.docx 46k .docx file ote]
post #3826 of 4070
I looked at your other drawing.

I think my idea works. Do you?
post #3827 of 4070
that new sketch i did gives you a better view of the room that layout you have would definitely be the best, but where u have the tv there are two windows that are less than 50 inches apart...i i wouldnt be able to mount my 55 in led...and bright windows..not sure that backlight would be the best for the tv...but that was before you had a better picture of the room so check the new one out thanks!
post #3828 of 4070
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJonesBSME View Post

I looked at your other drawing.

I think my idea works. Do you?

I'm actually considering it...i chose the wall i did before for the tv because it doesn't have any windows besides the one at the end..also it was much more accessible for wiring as i amd running everything in-wall (hdmi's, speaker wire, etc..) i can send pics from my phone of thegutted living room if needed..
post #3829 of 4070
Windows are always a problem with non-dedicated home theaters. Since you are going with a TV and not a projector, perhaps buying a TV stand/amoire would be an answer instead of mounting on the wall. Get some good blinds to block out the light when you need to.

Research some other forums here on AVS for theater design. You'll find some good ideas and pictures. My avatar picture is of my last theater. It was in a spare bedroom. What you don't see is the window behind the screen wall. I completely covered it to make the space work. Be creative.

I don't think this particular forum is the place to discuss theater design, but I wanted to get you started. Good luck.
post #3830 of 4070
agreed, sort of got off topic lol thank you again
post #3831 of 4070
Just got my new pair of FH-65b's. have a look, let me know what you think. I can tell you they sound incredible, full and im not hearing the harshness or fatigue some people talk about. Very. Impressed right out of the box. These things are huge compared to my old polk tsi100's. not as deep at 8" and a little wider at 9". 16 1/2" tall. They sound great!
post #3832 of 4070
Couple more.



post #3833 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

In the installation/instructions for the PL-66 they, actually, show a layout showing them used as both the sides and rear surrounds in a 7.1 set up. I can't recall if they show them strictly used as rear-surrounds w/o side surrounds.
Could you scan and post these directions as a image or even as a pdf so we all can read them ?
post #3834 of 4070
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Originally Posted by metalguy View Post

Could you scan and post these directions as a image or even as a pdf so we all can read them ?

I purchased my 2 pairs of PL-66s back in late August 2012 and unless I have an outdated or newer manual than someone else has, the PL-66 manual is just a one page 'manual' that is printed on both sides & folded. There is nothing in there showing a 7.1 setup. It shows a 5.1 setup using the PL-66's as the "rear" speakers and a 6.1 setup using the PL-66's as the "side" speakers with the rear center being some other speaker, not a PL-66. One pair of PL-66's cannot be used for both side and rear surrounds at the same time. Here are some quick shots of the manual with my iPhone 5.




post #3835 of 4070
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Originally Posted by metalguy View Post

Could you scan and post these directions as a image or even as a pdf so we all can read them ?
I see someone beat me to it.
PL-66.PDF 802k .PDF file

It shows them being used as Fronts. I AM going to use them for both side and rear surrounds (when my second pair get here).
post #3836 of 4070
my bic speakers came in today !
post #3837 of 4070
^^ Get those babies hooked up!!! My second pair of PL-66's arrive tomorrow (they reshipped them).
post #3838 of 4070
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

^^ Get those babies hooked up!!! My second pair of PL-66's arrive tomorrow (they reshipped them).

did you get them accoustic sound design ? I asked them about the pl-66 but they won't sell them separate because what they have is part of a complete speaker system.
post #3839 of 4070
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Originally Posted by nismosr View Post

did you get them accoustic sound design ? I asked them about the pl-66 but they won't sell them separate because what they have is part of a complete speaker system.
Yup. I bought a 5.1 set up first and then another sub and the PL's at the same time but they didn't have the 66s in-stock. I bought direct from their website.
post #3840 of 4070
Ok a few questions. Looking at the pl-66 surrounds and there odd shape, would you consider them bipole or what? Also how do you have them set up for as your sides. As the horn fires forward and then you have the woofer behind it. for example if you have it at 90 degrees or right to your right or left , next to you per say, would you have the speaker behind you a tad so you have the horn firing at you or having the woofer parallel and next to you? Also for those who bought the pl-89 system did you look at anything else and what brought you to the bic set up? I hate the fact I cant hear them. I wonder how them compare to the rf -82 from klipsch, I have heard its pretty close. Also how is the pl-28 center. do any of you not like it? I have heard alot of down the middle of the road reviews, but nobody seems to point out any negatives and there are negatives for all speakers so let me know please. Also how high should you put the speakers , the surrounds i mean, i know you can have them at least 2 feet above you but what about higher? And for a 7.1 For me it would be like 2 feet or so behind me for the sides and them like 10 to 12 feet if not a tad more for the rears as that is where the wall is, would that be a problem? Also how do you mount them, is you wanted to angle them at all, and not just using the to screw brackets they give you that are built in to it. Thanks in advance for the help everyone. p.s. wish i could afford the rf 7, just love them and love that center rc 64 wow. Oh that brings up one more thing, how would you compare that rc 64, 4, 6.5 woofers, versus 2, 8 inch on the pl-28. I know there is more surface on the rc-64 but with the crossover does it really make a difference?
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