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post #3841 of 4576
I'm in the process of building my theater. I'm a long way off from completion, but last night I was able to do a quick sound check. No video yet, so I can't configure the receiver, but it was nice to hear my system for the first time.


Here is a picture of my rear surround speakers.
FH8-W x 6

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Here is my front stage.
PL-89 X 3
PL-200 X 1 (for now...The screen wall has been designed for 2 subs)


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post #3842 of 4576
Awesome setup JeffreyJonesBSME! Good luck with it.
post #3843 of 4576
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Originally Posted by nismosr View Post

did you get them accoustic sound design ? I asked them about the pl-66 but they won't sell them separate because what they have is part of a complete speaker system.

That's odd that they wouldn't sell outside of a package... It's not like they come in one big packaged box set or anything. I bought mine from SoundDistributors.com. While I did get mine with PL-89s, PL-28 and 2 pairs of FH6-W, their site has them listed individually for sale and I just tried to add them to an order w/o problem. They have a code, TV15, you can use to get them down to just over $200 but you may get something better via their make an offer option.
post #3844 of 4576
JeffreyJonesBSME, your theater is looking really nice!!! I like the look of your FH-8W's on the walls. I am going to be using the FH-6W's for my front height and width speakers. I'm curious how you are setting up your rear surrounds with 3 pairs of FH8-W? How are the additional pair of FH-8W used and hooked up? I assume the first pair on the side walls are the side surrounds, and the pair on the back wall are the rear surrounds but what about that additional pair in the upper back corner wall? Rear surround heights? Never seen that before but interested in your setup.
post #3845 of 4576
Dog,

My receiver is a 9.2 Yamaha RX-A3010. The extra rear speakers are called "Effect Speakers". I'm not really sure what they will do, but it didn't cost much to buy the extra pair of speakers and wiring was free because I did it myself with wire I already had from the rest of the wiring installation. The instructions said I could put them in the front or rear up high.

We'll see.
post #3846 of 4576
I have them set up as their instruction packet illustrates but I have them slightly angled. They are slightly in front of the theater seats (on either side). The rears will replace my Aperion dipole/bipole speakers and mounted to the wall. I posted that I bought this system and I find the sound much better then the Aperion 7.1 set up I was using.
post #3847 of 4576
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJonesBSME View Post

Dog,

My receiver is a 9.2 Yamaha RX-A3010. The extra rear speakers are called "Effect Speakers". I'm not really sure what they will do, but it didn't cost much to buy the extra pair of speakers and wiring was free because I did it myself with wire I already had from the rest of the wiring installation. The instructions said I could put them in the front or rear up high.

We'll see.

Interesting... I didn't know that option (rear surround heights) was out there. I have a Denon 4311CI and it does 9.2 (11.2 with an external amp) like your Yamaha but the additional channels supported are for front heights and front widths. When you get everything up and running and get the full on experience, I'd be interested to know what you think the BICs up there in the back add to the listening experience. I've read just a little that the front heights don't add a whole lot (front widths are supposed to add more compared to the front heights) but I've done the same by you, didn't cost much extra to buy the additional pair and wiring was done by myself too, so I went for it.
post #3848 of 4576
Hey all, I don't own an Acoustech speaker, but I have the FH6-LCR. I'm not sure if I have a bum speaker but after comparing it to my Pioneer C21 the BIC lacks bass and midrange, and not just by a little bit, it has no bass or mids..... I'm very disappointed. Guess I'm off to try the new Pioneer c22 and see how it does
post #3849 of 4576
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Originally Posted by SDB30 View Post

Hey all, I don't own an Acoustech speaker, but I have the FH6-LCR. I'm not sure if I have a bum speaker but after comparing it to my Pioneer C21 the BIC lacks bass and midrange, and not just by a little bit, it has no bass or mids..... I'm very disappointed. Guess I'm off to try the new Pioneer c22 and see how it does

Haven't tried it. But if you don't like it, send it back.
post #3850 of 4576
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Originally Posted by SDB30 View Post

Hey all, I don't own an Acoustech speaker, but I have the FH6-LCR. I'm not sure if I have a bum speaker but after comparing it to my Pioneer C21 the BIC lacks bass and midrange, and not just by a little bit, it has no bass or mids..... I'm very disappointed. Guess I'm off to try the new Pioneer c22 and see how it does

Your right and it wont. Its not a 3-way speaker/full range speaker. Its more designed as a center to handle voices. The crossovers are set to illuminate bass and focus on mids and highs because they're designed to be paired with a sub. Get a sub and set the crossover at 80Hz+ and you will be g2g.
post #3851 of 4576
I also just purchased a BIC America FH6-LCR and I'm not sure it's working right.

Setup:

Onkyo TX-NR616
R/L Mains - Polk RTA 15TL
R/L Surrounds - weak Onkyo HTIB
R/L Rears - Infinity Overture 1s
Sub - Klipsch RW-12d

I swapped in the FH6-LCR for the original Onkyo HTIB center (~4 years old) and ran Audyssey. The original Onkyo center was automatically set by Audyssey @ 80Hz. Ran the same setup for the new FH6-LCR and Audyssey picks either 100Hz or 120Hz.

Does that sound right? I was expecting the FH6 to auto set at 80Hz or lower.

Thank you,
Chris
post #3852 of 4576
Me too, with dual 6.5 inch woofers one would expect decent bass and midrange punch. Well, if anyone lives close to Pensacola, FL, I'll be putting my FH6-LCR on Craigslist for $50
post #3853 of 4576
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Originally Posted by Chris Yates View Post

I also just purchased a BIC America FH6-LCR and I'm not sure it's working right.

Setup:

Onkyo TX-NR616
R/L Mains - Polk RTA 15TL
R/L Surrounds - weak Onkyo HTIB
R/L Rears - Infinity Overture 1s
Sub - Klipsch RW-12d

I swapped in the FH6-LCR for the original Onkyo HTIB center (~4 years old) and ran Audyssey. The original Onkyo center was automatically set by Audyssey @ 80Hz. Ran the same setup for the new FH6-LCR and Audyssey picks either 100Hz or 120Hz.

Does that sound right? I was expecting the FH6 to auto set at 80Hz or lower.

Thank you,
Chris

This is about right. I would cross it over between 80->100hz. I believe Bic recommends a 100hz crossover with all of the formula series speakers.
post #3854 of 4576
Well, upon further inspection the FH6-LCR is not ported, its a fully sealed box, it seems designed to stay tight and in the high mids to high end range. But if you examine the FH-6T (their formula tower series that the FHR-LCR pairs with) you will quickly notice the larges ports on the front. I guarantee this speaker is not supposed to handle mid bass punch, the towers are. I wouldn't recommend the FH6 center as an "all channel speaker", but as a center its awesome, if paired with the towers or in a 2.1 with a mid bass sub. The 4 DV-62si's i have for rear channels are ported, and they have much better low end extension, than my center, but thats because they're supposed to.

Beware of centers with alot of mid bass punch because they can make make deep male voices overpowering all too often, let your towers or sub handle handle midbass. If you listen to more music than movies, then maybe this setup isn't for you. but in home theater its the better setup.

Personally im bout 60/40 movies/music, but i also have 3 subs which handle the gamete of bass, so im not missing out on any "punch"


note the port:
post #3855 of 4576
Yes. There is a significant difference in low end between the FH6-LCR and the FH-6T towers. I own them. I wouldn't recommend running the FH6-LCR for anything other than a center channel.
post #3856 of 4576
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Originally Posted by dwaleke View Post

Yes. There is a significant difference in low end between the FH6-LCR and the FH-6T towers. I own them. I wouldn't recommend running the FH6-LCR for anything other than a center channel.

I rest my case
post #3857 of 4576
I'll try crossing the FH6-LCR at 100 hz and see how it sounds. I may have just set my expectations too high considering the dual 6.5 inch woofers. I've just read it compares well with Klipsch reference line, so I was expecting greatness. Also, does the FH6-LCR stack up well against the Acoustec pl-26? Seems like the same speaker but with out the pretty cabinet. If the Acoustech is better I may switch up and grab one. Please reply anyone who has experience with both.
post #3858 of 4576
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Originally Posted by SDB30 View Post

I'll try crossing the FH6-LCR at 100 hz and see how it sounds. I may have just set my expectations too high considering the dual 6.5 inch woofers. I've just read it compares well with Klipsch reference line, so I was expecting greatness. Also, does the FH6-LCR stack up well against the Acoustec pl-26? Seems like the same speaker but with out the pretty cabinet. If the Acoustech is better I may switch up and grab one. Please reply anyone who has experience with both.
I listened to the 2 side by side in my home when I was trying to decide and they sounded identical to me. I went with the 26 only because my entertainment stand is smoked black glass and is glossy like the 26.
post #3859 of 4576
Well, I decided to crack open my speaker... glad I did, don't know if a wire was just lose or what, but it plays lower frequencies now, much fuller sound. Nice sound!
post #3860 of 4576
^^^ Glad to hear..... FWIW I have the PL-28 center with 2 - 8" woofers in a sealed cabinet. When I first got it and ran Audyssey before I listened to the speaker at all. Audyssey set the Xover to 90hz, but what I did was I set it to 60hz. After 1 week of being set to 60hz and watching HDTV, 2 Blu-ray movies, and a few CDs I reran Audyssey and this time it set the center at 70hz. I now have the Xover set to 80hz. So I'm not sure if the speaker just needed breakin time or what happened but it sounds great I love it and never have had any trouble with it.
post #3861 of 4576
Hi all can anyone tell me how the pl76 would be in a small 2.1 system . Do they sound good alone just stereo.......I would end up adding some surrounds later
post #3862 of 4576
Realnt I had the pl76. They do sound good by themselves in stereo. I think they'd be great for a 2.1 system. I kind of miss my pl76. They had great dynamics. I upgraded to much more expensive speakers but I definitely hit the point of diminishing returns. The pl76 are great home theatre speakers
post #3863 of 4576
thanks
post #3864 of 4576
Hey uncola are the pl76;s stable on say berber carpet or should I get the 89;s
post #3865 of 4576
^^^ I have the 89s they are not the most stable speaker cuz of no feet, legs, or spikes. BUT I have a Siberian Husky a cat and an almost 2 yr old daughter and these speakers never even wavered from them. So unless you expect them to get bumped really hard either the 76s or the 89s should be fine. BUT if you have the money and the space why not get the 89s? Not saying that you will miss anything by not getting the 89s but it is cool to show off 2 - 8 inchers.
post #3866 of 4576
How would the PL-28 speakers sound as Left and Right channels with an F12 sub???

I am considering running the FH6-LCR for all seven channels with 2 F12 subs but I can get a god deal on some PL-28s and thought maybe I will run seven of those for all of my channels.
post #3867 of 4576
Hey I agree with that I think I will get the 89's Thanks for the post
post #3868 of 4576
Hi everyone! I to am going to order the pl89 system next week! I am a complete noob my current system is the speakers in my Philips 48" HD TV. I was wondering which budget AVRS i should consider to power the system. Also will my WII still allow me to live stream Netflix through the receiver? Thanks. smile.gif
post #3869 of 4576
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Originally Posted by bigblockhead View Post

Hi everyone! I to am going to order the pl89 system next week! I am a complete noob my current system is the speakers in my Philips 48" HD TV. I was wondering which budget AVRS i should consider to power the system. Also will my WII still allow me to live stream Netflix through the receiver? Thanks. smile.gif
What is your budget and what kind of features are important to you.
post #3870 of 4576
Around $300 i need at least 4 hdmi ports. I am a noob so i realy dont know what i need.eek.gif
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