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post #1411 of 1791
I have a 4881 and 7604 up for sale. I tried both as a center for about a month before settling on a 4101. Let me know if you're interested.
post #1412 of 1791
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Originally Posted by zing1973 View Post

I have a 4881 and 7604 up for sale. I tried both as a center for about a month before settling on a 4101. Let me know if you're interested.

FWIW, I just completed my HT build. I planned for 4101's all around for my 7.1 system, but was leary about it for the center as it sounded (at least until lately) that most here have been using what sounded like everything EXCEPT a 4101 for the center. Well, I finally decided just to go for it and was wonderfully surprised at how how great it sounds. Voices and all are perfect with the 4101 center, and everything works well together. (BTW, this is in a dedicated 24 x 14 HT with VSX-921-k for the 7.1.) For anyone on the fence about this - I'd highly recommend. Now if I can just figure out what to do with the extra 4101 from the pair.
post #1413 of 1791
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Originally Posted by jrrintn View Post

FWIW, I just completed my HT build. I planned for 4101's all around for my 7.1 system, but was leary about it for the center as it sounded (at least until lately) that most here have been using what sounded like everything EXCEPT a 4101 for the center. Well, I finally decided just to go for it and was wonderfully surprised at how how great it sounds. Voices and all are perfect with the 4101 center, and everything works well together. (BTW, this is in a dedicated 24 x 14 HT with VSX-921-k for the 7.1.) For anyone on the fence about this - I'd highly recommend. Now if I can just figure out what to do with the extra 4101 from the pair.

It's good to know I'm not alone. I have a few posts in this thread about not being satisfied with my center channel. The 4101 is the fifth center I tried. My wife gave up on complaining to me about cutting and patching the drywall. Haha, I think she's convinced I have OCD. Anyway, using a 4101 for a center is absolutely the way to go if you're using 4101s for right and left fronts.
post #1414 of 1791
If anyone is looking to part ways with an extra 7604, please let me know!
post #1415 of 1791
why is the 4101 preferred over the 6816? you would think the 3-way would sound better and handle more power.

I have an Onkyo tx-nr709 rated at 110 watts @ 8 ohms and can be raised to 140 watts.

I am having a hard time deciding between the 7604 and 6816. These speakers will be used for all 7 channels. 3 on front wall and other 4 will be in ceiling.

I will be using the 4928 (10" sub) 1 in front and 1 in rear to fill in the low notes. These 2 speakers will be powered by Onkyo m-282 2 channel amp.

I have a little over a week to make the purchase so any help with choosing between the 2 would be of much help.

Thank you.

p.s. someone previously used 4- 7604's for their center channel. Would 2 of the above speakers be good for the center? How is it wired to maintain the ohms without dropping?
post #1416 of 1791
What would you guys recommend, I have one room that is 12x16(master bedroom), 12x13, and 11x8. I'm just looking for in ceilings for music to play in the bedrooms, nothing too crazy, as I know the master will be use quite a bit, but not sure on the 2 guests. I also will be putting one in my master bath which is 12x8. Any recommendations would be great, as I rather not buy one of each and then return some of them.
post #1417 of 1791
Just saw this thread and want to toss this in.

Using a pair of 7605 for our sunroom (12x32) listening area (zone2).
Wall mounted into the attic. Backs are covered in insulation. Large diameter cutouts at 12" but we had all the room in the world to choose. I picked these for the angle since mounted on the 12ft side.

Using the pair of 7604 in the garage (32x36). Wall mounted into insulation.

They all sound great to us. I've convinced my dad to use all monoprice in walls for his next house since he wants a clean look. Tweeter setting is -3db for all. At first they did sound small and needed to break in a few hours.
post #1418 of 1791
just pulled the trigger on this set up for a 5.1 powered by a denon 3312ci cant wait to get them in! will report back soon.
4928 10 Inches In-Wall Subwoofer (Passive) 1
6317 5-1/4 Inches Center Channel Micro-Flanged In-Wall Speaker - 8 Ohm 1
6816 8 Inches Kevlar 3-Way High Power In-Wall Speaker (Pair) - 100W Nominal, 200W Max 1
4104 8 Inches Kevlar 2-Way In-Ceiling Speakers (Pair) - 80W Nominal, 160W Max
post #1419 of 1791
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Originally Posted by vegasgolds View Post

why is the 4101 preferred over the 6816? you would think the 3-way would sound better and handle more power.

I have an Onkyo tx-nr709 rated at 110 watts @ 8 ohms and can be raised to 140 watts.

I am having a hard time deciding between the 7604 and 6816. These speakers will be used for all 7 channels. 3 on front wall and other 4 will be in ceiling.

I will be using the 4928 (10" sub) 1 in front and 1 in rear to fill in the low notes. These 2 speakers will be powered by Onkyo m-282 2 channel amp.

I have a little over a week to make the purchase so any help with choosing between the 2 would be of much help.

Thank you.

p.s. someone previously used 4- 7604's for their center channel. Would 2 of the above speakers be good for the center? How is it wired to maintain the ohms without dropping?
Bump on all of this.
I'm looking at the same problem with a decision between the 4101 & 6816.
I only differ with the Onkyo 818 and I'm leaning towards the Epik Legend sub.
As for using 2 speakers as the center, that would be interesting.

EDIT: After researching the 2 speaker center some more, I have found that it is not a good idea (at least not with my setup).
Edited by joshua.jones - 6/11/12 at 7:31pm
post #1420 of 1791
Anyone have any 6816 for sale?

Thanks
post #1421 of 1791
Cons: I just recieved this today. Box says it is a 4ohm speaker. Website and invoice both say 8ohms. Also it will not fit between studs in any home in the US.

Looks like a really nice speaker, I will not be able to use it however. Quality construction.

by Monoprice Administrator
Hello Jeff,

Thank you for your review and my apologies for the issues you have experienced with PID 4881. Now I should mention that this speaker is indeed 8 ohms. Unfortunately, the packaging is incorrect. Sorry for the confusion on our part. However, if you haven't done so already, I can help setup an RMA to get you a replacement or a refund/credit for this speaker. Please let me know if you would like to proceed with the RMA. Thank you for your patience and cooperation.

Should you have any other questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you for doing business with us.
Regards,

Jonathan Arteaga
Tech Support Associate
Monoprice, Inc. (http://www.monoprice.com)
11701 6th St, Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730, USA

Does anyone know if this is true I wanted to make sure that they all match as 8 ohm and was concerned the center was 8 ohm also. There website have them listed as 4 ohm. This is an old review on ther website.
post #1422 of 1791
I have the 4103 installed for my back surrounds (7.1 system). These speakers work and sound great!
post #1423 of 1791
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Originally Posted by T100 View Post

Cons: I just recieved this today. Box says it is a 4ohm speaker. Website and invoice both say 8ohms. Also it will not fit between studs in any home in the US.
Looks like a really nice speaker, I will not be able to use it however. Quality construction.
by Monoprice Administrator
Hello Jeff,
Thank you for your review and my apologies for the issues you have experienced with PID 4881. Now I should mention that this speaker is indeed 8 ohms. Unfortunately, the packaging is incorrect. Sorry for the confusion on our part. However, if you haven't done so already, I can help setup an RMA to get you a replacement or a refund/credit for this speaker. Please let me know if you would like to proceed with the RMA. Thank you for your patience and cooperation.
Should you have any other questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you for doing business with us.
Regards,
Jonathan Arteaga
Tech Support Associate
Monoprice, Inc. (http://www.monoprice.com)
11701 6th St, Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730, USA
Does anyone know if this is true I wanted to make sure that they all match as 8 ohm and was concerned the center was 8 ohm also. There website have them listed as 4 ohm. This is an old review on ther website.

why not go with the 6317?
its definetly 8 ohms and will fit inside a standard stud wall
post #1424 of 1791
I have aready installed this speaker and was looking at there website and found out it was 4 ohm rating and the other speakers I chose where 8 ohm. I have purchased an onkyo 818 and didn't want to damage the receiver. I have contacted monoprice about this and they are looking in to it, here is a picture of it aleady installed. I did do an ohms test on it and it does read at 8 ohms so it should be ok.450
post #1425 of 1791
Hello everyone!
I posted this in the main forum but, after a lot of searching, I have decided to go with Monoprice for all 7 speakers.
Now, I just need some advice on which ones.
My house came pre-wired with everything on the ceiling but the front and rear are vaulted although the angle does actually help the speakers point towards the couch.
The room is loft style and is 14' x 18'.
The front and rear walls go 8' before they angle in. The top is at 13'.
It is prewired with 7.x although the side speakers were not installed slightly behind the seating area. They were centered. As the builder had the security system guys do the prewire, you get what you pay for.
Also, this room is only for HT. Music will most likely be limited to Rock Band with the kids.

I just bought the Onkyo 818 and will be getting the Epik Legend to fill out the lows.

This thread has opened my eyes to all the possibilities but I think I have it narrowed down (maybe) to one of the following options:
A - 7604s all around (It really stuck with me about voice coming through a 5.25" speaker but, with the Onkyo pumping out 135W/ch at 8 ohms and ~180W/ch at 6 ohms, I want to have the headroom)
B - 6816s all around (Gotta love the size and power in these)
C - 7604s up front (LCR) and 6816s for the surrounds (I keep the strong voice speakers up front and get power everywhere else)
D - Some other combo (Maybe, the sides are a little too high for either of these. Maybe, I should pick something else)

I am attaching some pics and probable locations with notes.

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NOTE: It may be possible to place the center on the flat wall and move the L/R down to the flat as well although this may prove difficult.
Behind these outlets is the open attic and it will be impossible to box in the speakers.
The HDMI and power will be ran through the walls.
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NOTE: Where the outlet cover is, there is the ceiling joist so I cannot cut into the wall at that location (plus it is centered).
I plan on moving the speaker slightly higher and further back in the room to place the speaker slightly behind me.
By doing this, the bottom of the speaker will be at the same height as my new ceiling fan.
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NOTE: The speaker on this wall will match the other and the light becomes the ceiling fan.

With all of this, how do you think that I should proceed?
post #1426 of 1791
I go with the 7604's all the way around .there 6 ohms 1 x 6.5" woofer 5.5" Mid and .75" tweet, the Micro Flange is nice, I have a pair of these they are heavy & they sound great , put the Front Horiz below the Tv though.. with the Angled top wall up there will be fine cause they will be angled toward the Listener.. the tweeters do not move though they are fixed
post #1427 of 1791
So, one vote for Option A (all 7604). Anyone else?
Will the sides be OK that far up the wall?
I don't have much choice on location but I was looking at the 4929 to direct it down a little.
Or would this just look strange?
post #1428 of 1791
Couldn't wait any longer... I've got to complete this project.
Went with the 7604s all around.
The 5.25" and the micro-flange sealed the deal on them.
Hopefully, they will arrive by the weekend so I can install.
I'll post pics once everything is up and running.
post #1429 of 1791
I'm new to this forum but found a lot of good information regarding the monoprice speakers by reading this thread. I'm finishing my lower level man cave and I pulled the trigger for my HT 7.1 system on the following, all monoprice:

1 center channel 6317
4 6816's for the front and sides
2 4929's for rears
1 subwoofer 4928 powered with Dayton Audio SPA250 250 Watt Subwoofer Plate Amplifier

This is all powered with a Harman Kardon AVR 3600

I got a great deal on all. I got the AVR for $550, Dayton amp for $120, and all the speakers from monoprice for $394 (including shipping). One of the 6816's went kaput, but monoprice sent me a new one in no-time. I got them all as open box items, so all in all i got my HT set up for a shade over $1k. No TV yet, but I have tested out a few movies with 7.1 DTS master audio, Cars 2, Toy Story 3, and it sounds great. I couldn't be happier. Just have to get some doors and carpet and I'll be all set.

If any of you are hesitating on pulling the trigger on these, don't; you can't beat the price and quality of these speakers. Monoprice is awesome!
post #1430 of 1791
I just got my speakers installed pic below, haven't got my sub hooked up yet and don't mind the horrible av rack in the corner that's temp until my cabinet arrives, but the install went good only issue was my studs are only 14" apart and not the norm 16" and the sub does not fit correctly. The sounds on these speakers are amazing. I watch alot of south park and now when I watch it i hear things i never heard before. NBA finals was amazing I could hear people in the stands yelling and screaming and clapping, at one point I thought it was some one outside my house. for the price these speakers are AWESOME AND WELL WORTH IT!!! IF ANYONE IS ON THE FENCE DO IT YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.


IMG_1542.jpg

my installed speakers powered by a DENON 3312ci

4928 10 Inches In-Wall Subwoofer (Passive) 1
6317 5-1/4 Inches Center Channel Micro-Flanged In-Wall Speaker - 8 Ohm 1
6816 8 Inches Kevlar 3-Way High Power In-Wall Speaker (Pair) - 100W Nominal, 200W Max 1
4104 8 Inches Kevlar 2-Way In-Ceiling Speakers (Pair) - 80W Nominal, 160W Max
post #1431 of 1791
It would sound loads better if they weren't so high. The really high freq sounds will literally shoot right over your head.
post #1432 of 1791
well its a bit late for would should could a im happy with the current set up fills the room real nice
post #1433 of 1791
the setup looks fantastic. I am only mentioning it for others if they decide to go that route too. The rule for speakers is to have the speaker level with your ears as you would be sitting in your favorite chair watching tv. Cheers!
post #1434 of 1791
I'm planning a theater room install and have a pair of 4101 and 7604s on the way and plan on comparing them to the Audiosource 8" in-walls and the Polk RC85i. I already have the RC85i installed in my garage and they don't sound that bad. The best sounding speakers will get installed as my L/C/Rs. I wanted cheap (price wise) speakers for my front because I plan to leave them with the house when I move. The better stuff will come with me.
Axiom QS8s for surround. Possibly adding Axiom M3 on-walls down the line for the wide channels. The 4929 looks like it might be a good candidate for the height speakers in the ceiling.
post #1435 of 1791
OK, let preface this with,... I've been drinking.

Just found this thread and wanted to drop a 1 year review on your ass. I'm the guy who initially brought up using the 7604 as a center. Would I do it again, hell ya. Movies are fantastic and since the L/C/R are all the same speaker the sound stage is balanced. Of course I have kids, three of the little monsters, and it makes it hard to find a suitable hour to watch a movie in HD with the amp turned up to 11. That said, the 7604s are still going strong. They broke in after a few months of use/abuse and really are great speakers. Will I buy them again? Yes, and if this spare room project actually comes to fruition, I will be getting another set for there as well. I have seen a lot of comments on the 8" 6818's or something like that... to those speakers, I would seriously reconsider because of their lack of a 5.25 or 6.5" driver. They may have more umph when it comes to booms, but when they don't articulate the blades of a chopper or dialogue as well as a smaller driver you will find yourself disappointed. Let the umph come from your sub.

My most notable review comes from watching Band of Brothers, an excellent HBO program. The dialogue and explosions pitted me inside of the action. My heart raced as "my brothers" marched to their fates. I was in the action, not outside of it, not as a movie watcher, not some casual observer, but I was in the action. I would go as far as to say the speakers, as installed in my home, have become transparent. And that is as good as a rating as I could give a theater speaker. Last Monday I saw The Hunger Games at a local theater that boasted quality sound and imaging. Sorry boys, the Pristas home theater trumps your commercial mainstream cinema any day of the week. It just made me realize once again, that I love watching movies at home ten times as much as going to the theater. What was the deal with the $14 worth of popcorn and soda anyway? Seriously, I have been a home theater junkie way too long. I think I now average .5 movies in the theater per year vs. 50-75 in my own home. I'm actually quite pleased with this, as I am now on a specific delay from release in theater to release on DVD. Thanks redbox for allowing me the freedom to not have to sit with a bunch of annoying people, in a smelly theater, paying way too much for a ticket, paying even more too much for the popcorn and seriously WTF is up with a $4.95 Coke? Are you OOYFMinds? bahhh, anyway, go buy your damn speakers. Get the 7604s if you like movies. End of story, thank you, bu bye.
post #1436 of 1791
Oh and a couple people have mentioned getting a 6317 as a center channel. DON'T. I did then returned it and bough t a 7604 which is ten times better as a center. Much clearer and much greater frequency range.
post #1437 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Pristas View Post

OK, let preface this with,... I've been drinking.
Just found this thread and wanted to drop a 1 year review on your ass. I'm the guy who initially brought up using the 7604 as a center. Would I do it again, hell ya. Movies are fantastic and since the L/C/R are all the same speaker the sound stage is balanced. Of course I have kids, three of the little monsters, and it makes it hard to find a suitable hour to watch a movie in HD with the amp turned up to 11. That said, the 7604s are still going strong. They broke in after a few months of use/abuse and really are great speakers. Will I buy them again? Yes, and if this spare room project actually comes to fruition, I will be getting another set for there as well. I have seen a lot of comments on the 8" 6818's or something like that... to those speakers, I would seriously reconsider because of their lack of a 5.25 or 6.5" driver. They may have more umph when it comes to booms, but when they don't articulate the blades of a chopper or dialogue as well as a smaller driver you will find yourself disappointed. Let the umph come from your sub.
My most notable review comes from watching Band of Brothers, an excellent HBO program. The dialogue and explosions pitted me inside of the action. My heart raced as "my brothers" marched to their fates. I was in the action, not outside of it, not as a movie watcher, not some casual observer, but I was in the action. I would go as far as to say the speakers, as installed in my home, have become transparent. And that is as good as a rating as I could give a theater speaker. Last Monday I saw The Hunger Games at a local theater that boasted quality sound and imaging. Sorry boys, the Pristas home theater trumps your commercial mainstream cinema any day of the week. It just made me realize once again, that I love watching movies at home ten times as much as going to the theater. What was the deal with the $14 worth of popcorn and soda anyway? Seriously, I have been a home theater junkie way too long. I think I now average .5 movies in the theater per year vs. 50-75 in my own home. I'm actually quite pleased with this, as I am now on a specific delay from release in theater to release on DVD. Thanks redbox for allowing me the freedom to not have to sit with a bunch of annoying people, in a smelly theater, paying way too much for a ticket, paying even more too much for the popcorn and seriously WTF is up with a $4.95 Coke? Are you OOYFMinds? bahhh, anyway, go buy your damn speakers. Get the 7604s if you like movies. End of story, thank you, bu bye.

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Originally Posted by Pristas View Post

Oh and a couple people have mentioned getting a 6317 as a center channel. DON'T. I did then returned it and bough t a 7604 which is ten times better as a center. Much clearer and much greater frequency range.

Pristas-
All of your posts were the reason I went with the 7604s all around setup. It stuck with me about the 5.25" voice channel.
Wife says that they arrived today (even though one of the boxes is apparently harshed). Can't wait to get them all installed...
post #1438 of 1791
i was thinking of getting these for the rear surrounds... 8 Inches Kevlar In-Ceiling Speakers (Pair) - w/ 15 Degree Angled Woofer #4929
what do you think? thanks
post #1439 of 1791
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Originally Posted by raymondeast View Post

i was thinking of getting these for the rear surrounds... 8 Inches Kevlar In-Ceiling Speakers (Pair) - w/ 15 Degree Angled Woofer #4929
what do you think? thanks

I have the none angled 8 inch Kevlars and I love them, I was two sec away from getting angled but went with them and dont regret it one bit. They sounds awesome I still am amazed by mono price they sound excellent.

Now i got a question I need a amp for my 10" passive but I have a budget fo 125 max can anyone point me to something that will work for the time being until I can scrape more money together for a higher end amp? anyone
post #1440 of 1791
can anyone tell me what size backer box I would need for 4103's, 6.5" in-ceiling speakers
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