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I tired the code "incentive" and it didn't work. Seems like its tired to your account. Anyway to get this to work?
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Originally Posted by Bluray Rulez View Post

I tired the code "incentive" and it didn't work. Seems like its tired to your account. Anyway to get this to work?

I found the code here:

http://www.retailmenot.com/view/monoprice.com

I used the 20% code

Not sure how it could be tied to my account, looked like a general one but expires on the 25th
post #1503 of 1791
Sounds like a nice setup Mike. My only suggestion is ditch the TV. I'd look into a Epson 8350 and Vapex/Elite fixed screen from VisualApex. Don't forget a pj mount. smile.gif
post #1504 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Bluray Rulez View Post

I tired the code "incentive" and it didn't work. Seems like its tired to your account. Anyway to get this to work?

Same here, can't get code to work.

The 10% code works but trying to see if I can get the 20 to work
Edited by PrebanAR15 - 11/25/12 at 9:44pm
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post #1506 of 1791
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Originally Posted by autox320 View Post

Not sure if this will work but try http://www.monoprice.com/home/promo.asp?pn=newsletter_incentive_lp&con=1&ui=

I enter my email address and hit confirm and the page just reloads. Not sure what's supposed to happen. Guess I'll check in the morning to see if I get an email with a code or something.
post #1507 of 1791
oh well, I never got a code for the 20% off. Guess it wasn't meant to be.

Thanks to viper8u2 though, the 10% off code still seems to work.
post #1508 of 1791
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Originally Posted by monsterbucket View Post

I see those... It doesn't look as if any of the rectangular models have pivoting tweeters.
So...
question 1: is there a rule that says you can't use in-ceiling speakers as in-wall speakers?
question 2: how necessary is it to direct the left and right speakers in toward the listening area?

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Originally Posted by BornSlippyZ View Post

Sorry I jumped into the fray and you guys were talking about in wall speakers.
I do not know it there is a rule per-se but I do think these speakers were designed to be used specifically for their purpose either for the ceiling or in the wall. For #2 I will let someone more knowledgeable answer that because I never had in-wall speakers in any of my homes, just in-ceiling speakers.

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Originally Posted by monsterbucket View Post

you bring up another interesting question though SlippyZ...
What about using in-ceiling speakers for the front setups? Would the 15* angled in-ceiling 8" speakers be a good choice for Left Center Right up front? It would certainly help the WAF a lot, but would it present the right sound stage for a movie? I'm thinking about speaker # 4929
For the surrounds I would plan on using in-walls that are facing directly at the ears from the left and right.

Hey guys, i haven't had a chance to go though the rest of the thread to see if this had been already answered, But

1) yes, there is. In-ceiling and in-wall speakers are designed with different depths in mind. An in wall speaker will never be more than 4in deep, while you may find in-ceiling speakers be up to 6in deep in some cases. In ceiling speakers will also have a smaller foot print.

2) Ideally, that would be the best thing you can do. This is the reason why external speakers on speaker stands or mounts are always ideal, because you can easily point them at the listening area. The higher frequencies will easily fly past your ears and you wont get 100% of the intended audio, but this is a compromise you have to live with for choosing to go with in-wall/in-ceiling speakers.

With that said, i want to formally introduce myself. My name is Manny, and i work for Monoprice. I am here as an informal representative of the company, i am here for my own personal accord, and not here to shove Monoprice down your throats. I am currently on the Product development team, and i am always reading up on these boards for info on how people feel about our products. If you have specific questions about certain things i would be glad to answer any questions you may have about products and such, but i will really have to limit what i can say for the sake that i'm here for myself and not the company, i can direct you to resources we have available that will help and walk you though any issues you may have.

Some back ground on myself, I for many years was a Home theater installer for a big Box retailer, and from there moved onto bigger and better things. I am familiar with basic home automation software such as Control 4 and universal remotes, etc, etc... I also have a strong background in computers. I have been doing all of this for a long time and am passionate about the work i do.

Regards,
post #1509 of 1791
The 20% coupons didn't work for me..but got the 10% to work. Oh we'll at least I can save some money and the Black Friday sale helped. Here's what I ended up ordering.

2 - 7604
1 - 6035
1 - 4103
1 - 4104


Does anyone have any experience with the 6035? How do they preform vs the 7605?
post #1510 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Bluray Rulez View Post

How are these holding up? I'm about to do the same setup. But I see others have gone with 7604 in front. Any feedback would be great. BTW how high did you mount the speakers?

They are holding up very, they sound crisp and clean. I am really happy with the center. I think the 7604 as a center would really bother me as far as looks go...the yellow kevlar cone can be seen on only one side that would not jive with my OCD.

Mounting was very easy, just get a good stud finder. The wires were run up the wall from holes just above the baseboards behind my furniture.
post #1511 of 1791
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Originally Posted by jarekkaraban View Post

They are holding up very, they sound crisp and clean. I am really happy with the center. I think the 7604 as a center would really bother me as far as looks go...the yellow kevlar cone can be seen on only one side that would not jive with my OCD.
Mounting was very easy, just get a good stud finder. The wires were run up the wall from holes just above the baseboards behind my furniture.

Thank you for the follow up. I do know what you mean about the center speaker as I noticed that yesterday as I received them. How are high are your 7604 mounted?
post #1512 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Bluray Rulez View Post

Thank you for the follow up. I do know what you mean about the center speaker as I noticed that yesterday as I received them. How are high are your 7604 mounted?

The middle of the 7604 is 45 inches from the floor.
post #1513 of 1791
Is there any benefit on which way (vertically) the 7604 should be? I was thinking of putting the yellow woofer on top since the black speaker is more towards the listening area. Is that wise?
post #1514 of 1791
The tweeter should point towards the listening position.
If flipping the speaker around puts the tweeter closer to ear-level, do it.
post #1515 of 1791
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Originally Posted by joshua.jones View Post

The tweeter should point towards the listening position.
If flipping the speaker around puts the tweeter closer to ear-level, do it.

How do I know which one is the tweeter on the 7604?

post #1516 of 1791
the tweeter is in the middle of the Black Woofer and it is fixed, it does not pivot!
post #1517 of 1791
For those of you that are running 7604s what crossover setting are you using? Does it work well being set at 50Hz or does it sound better up at 60 or 80 Hz? I'm thinking of doing 7604s across the front and 7605s in the surrounds for 7.1. Hoping I can set the xover to 50Hz.
post #1518 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Daniel Smith View Post

For those of you that are running 7604s what crossover setting are you using? Does it work well being set at 50Hz or does it sound better up at 60 or 80 Hz? I'm thinking of doing 7604s across the front and 7605s in the surrounds for 7.1. Hoping I can set the xover to 50Hz.


The 7605 are HUGE!! I purchased them and didn't install them cause of their size. I stuck with me original plan of 4103. So for they are great for surrounds.
post #1519 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Apple Expert View Post

The 7605 are HUGE!!

lol yes, yes they are. We had plenty of space for them in our sunroom walls used as zone2. Anyone buying them should pay attention to the cutout of 12" and depth of 5.4". Exactly the 7604 in angled config though and sound awesome.
post #1520 of 1791
I think I would have space for the 7605. They would be placed between floor joists the ceiling, the floor joist are the standard 12" deep, 16" spacing. That being said I'm a little concerned about the opposite angling of the woofer and mid/tweeter. The space I would be using them in is a great room that opens into the kitchen. There is not a wall nearby for the bass to reflect off of. The more I think about it the more I'm leaning toward using the 4929s for surrounds, with 7604s for FR and FL, and the 6317 center.

I'm not sold on the 7604 as a center because I don't like the idea of the sound changing from right to left if it is installed horizontally. I may pick up a pair or two of the 7605s for a second or third zone though.
post #1521 of 1791
I just received my order for the 8" 4104's & 4929's. I have an install question for those that have installed either of these. The template that comes with these has 2 perforated circles which are about 1/4" apart. Which one should be used for cutting the hole, the smaller one or the larger one?
post #1522 of 1791
If I remember correctly from when I installed my 4103s, the outside was the cutout template, the inside piece makes the paint mask. The instructions should say.
post #1523 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Nick_M View Post

I just received my order for the 8" 4104's & 4929's. I have an install question for those that have installed either of these. The template that comes with these has 2 perforated circles which are about 1/4" apart. Which one should be used for cutting the hole, the smaller one or the larger one?

As per the instructions that were included.

post #1524 of 1791
Maybe I missed it in the 51 pages.... but why is 7604 the optimal choice when it's 6 ohm and everyone is mixing with rears that are 8 ohms. I know receivers push a lower wattage at a higher ohm rating that shouldn't be over bearing for these units. Seems like 6 ohm might be too much power.



I ordered 6816 for the front and 7607 for rear and center... was that a bad idea?

I know less ohms is more efficient per say and will drive more power, but I don't want to blow these things. I am using an onkyo 875 by the way...
post #1525 of 1791
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Originally Posted by z3speed4me View Post

Maybe I missed it in the 51 pages.... but why is 7604 the optimal choice when it's 6 ohm and everyone is mixing with rears that are 8 ohms. I know receivers push a lower wattage at a higher ohm rating that shouldn't be over bearing for these units. Seems like 6 ohm might be too much power.
I ordered 6816 for the front and 7607 for rear and center... was that a bad idea?
I know less ohms is more efficient per say and will drive more power, but I don't want to blow these things. I am using an onkyo 875 by the way...
It all depends on your receiver. Mine rated at 110W @ 8Ohms and will accept a 6 Ohm load, at which point it would be 110 *8/6 = 146W, still well within the 160W maximum specified by the 7604. Ultimately the impedance doesn't make a difference in the sound, it is just a different load causing a different power output.

The 7607 should work great for surrounds, but why are you using one for you center channel instead of either the 6317 or another 6816. I'd either use the same speaker for LCR or use a speaker that was designed specifically to be a center channel.
post #1526 of 1791
I wrote that wrong... I have 2 sets of 6816's

I didn't buy a 6317 because it is rated at 40 Watts Nominal and 80 Watts Maximum, far below the rating of my receiver. Just wanted to play it safe and get something for a center that can handle a lot more power.
post #1527 of 1791
Oh Ok, that makes more sense.
post #1528 of 1791
What would be the best option for an in-ceiling installation for a garage? No sub, just something that's gonna put out a bit of bass and some decent sound. Driven by a budget receiver.

I'm thinking the 4104/4929 Thoughts?4929
post #1529 of 1791
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Originally Posted by IHaveAMullet View Post

What would be the best option for an in-ceiling installation for a garage? No sub, just something that's gonna put out a bit of bass and some decent sound. Driven by a budget receiver.
I'm thinking the 4104/4929 Thoughts?4929
I think the sound will be about the same between the 4104 and 4929. The main differences are the angled 4929s could offer some benefits in positioning, they have better wire terminals, and the 0 db, -3 db, -6db is located on the front instead of the back.

For simple garage use I would probably stick with the 4104 and save a few bucks.
post #1530 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Daniel Smith View Post

I think the sound will be about the same between the 4104 and 4929. The main differences are the angled 4929s could offer some benefits in positioning, they have better wire terminals, and the 0 db, -3 db, -6db is located on the front instead of the back.
For simple garage use I would probably stick with the 4104 and save a few bucks.
Thanks, you think for ceiling use the 4104's are a better option than say the 4101?
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