Monoprice in-wall, in-ceiling speakers - Page 53

The 7604 is sold!

You are going to need to know the specs of the speaker which monoprice doesn't readily know. I was going to build backerboxes as well. I do have a ticket open with monoprice which they told me it could take a few days to a couple of weeks for them to get back with me with the information!

This was given to me as a starting point to build an enclosure.
http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?219617-The-Speaker-Building-Bible


If you work at it at monoprice they will send you the speaker specs.
Email tech support

Well building the boxes isn't a problem at all. Soundproof has a good article on building backer boxes as well. I hv contacted tech support so hopefully I can get the specs sometime soon!

In this case I would suggest instead of using monoprice in-wall speakers for your media console to just buy individual speaker components from parts-express.com and build the speaker enclosure directly into the media console. They are pretty good about giving you the specifications and helping you design an enclosure for the components you pick out. They all sale off the shelf pre-assembled crossovers that should work well.

Why are people using the 7604 as a center channel instead of a 6317?

I did contact another Monoprice tech support rep who stated he should be able to get the speaker specs for the 7604 in the next 3 to 5 days. I will post back once I receive them.

I am looking at installing the Monoprice 7606 3-way 5.25" In-wall speakers in my office and using a Lepai LP-2020A+ for the amp and using them as computer speakers instead of having the Logitech 2.1 setup that I have now. I know those speaker are 8 ohm so the wattage is essentially going to get cut in half on that amp, but do you guys think that this amp has enough power to drive those speaker effectively? I have read rave reviews about the amp even though it is only 20w x 2 @ 4 ohm, but am worried that I will get it all setup and install to release it is underpowered! Also, for anyone that has purhcased the 7606, how do they sound and do they produce enough bass?

Everything I have read about that Amp is very good, and at the price I would probably buy one and try it out. It will probably work fine for the close up listening I would expect on a computer in an office. If you find you want more power you can always sell the amp easily and buy a more powerful desktop amp later.

The 7604 (89dB) is more efficient than the 7606 (87dB) and it has lower impedance 6 Ohms instead of 8 Ohms, so I would expect the 7604 to be driven better by Lepai if you can fit the 7604 in instead of the 7606.

Just installed (2) in-ceiling speakers #4104 for the fronts, and (2) in-wall speakers #4104 for the rear surrounds in a 12 x 20 office turned man cave. I am using a Polk Audio center channel speaker along with a sub-woofer neither of which I know the model numbers. The receiver is an older Onkyo with no HDMI ports. I tried to match the speakers as best as possible but the in-ceilings sound so much better than the in-walls. I set all of the speakers to 0dB and the crossover freq is currently set a 100 Hz. For the most part, these speakers will be used for music and watching sports.

The placement of the speakers were less than ideal but am not sure if this plays a role in overall sound. The receiver does not have the automatic speaker setup option.

I'm sure the answers are on this site somewhere on how to set-up this system, but I am still looking (learning). Overall, for the price of these speakers, I think they sound great and are perfect for this room. I intentially bought (2) walls and (2) ceiling speakers to see which were better. I am going to buy (2) more of the in-ceiling for zone 2 in the same room.

Thanks for all of the information.

I have a question on monoprice speakers. What is the the litle cloth that comes with them for? Is it used to keep dust off themjust for shipping? Is it used so youu don't see the yellow kevlar woofers? Or do I just thro it away?

Thanks!

dust screen, reinstall after installation

Have had Denon AVR 2805 running Energy Take 5 speakers wall mounted in 5.1 setup for many years. Current subwoofer is 8" Energy. Mostly used for TV watching and some movies. Remodeling family room and looking to change a few things.

System will be running off an already purchased Denon 4311 and would like to get rid of Energy wall mounted speakers and replace with in wall/ceilling speakers. It is a 5.1 system with the possibility of adding second subwoofer. Love what I'm hearing about the Monoprice speakers.Room is 15' wide by 12' deep opening to the kitchen behind the 12'.

Question 1 - have the opportunity to mount speakers in wall above TV facing primary seating location about 8' off the ground.. Would this be better than mounting in ceilling facing down?

Question 2 - see a lot of guys using the same three speakers for L/C/R speakers. Would it be better to mount the center speaker below TV, on cabinet at 36" or above TV in wall?

Question 3 - Subwoofer. Is 8" subwoofer big enough for this room. Should I keep the 8" sub and add a second sub? Should I just replace 8" sub with one 12" sub?

Question 4 - Primary seating position is at the 12' foot mark. Would it be better to mount surrounds a few feet behind the couch or right above the couch?

Will appreciate any and all coments regarding speaker selection and placement.

1. In my opinion mounting on a wall is preferred to a ceiling, especially when using it in home theater/TV application where the sound should be localized to a source (the TV). For a small room, where you are sitting very close to the TV in ceiling wouldn't be bad, but if you could be far away it would be lousy in my opinion.

2. Above or below, doesn't really matter. I would mount it in the location that will be closest to the height of your ears when you will be watching your TV. With your TV in a great room that joins with a kitchen, would you be watching TV from the kitchen while you cook. If so above the TV may be beneficial. It really depends on the height of you ears when you are watching TV and the height your TV is mounted at.

3. Some 8" subs are better than many 12" subs. So it is hard to make a general rule that you should get a larger sub. I would stick with the 8" for now and see how it sounds. If you want more bass, then upgrade.

4. You should look at the Dolby Speaker Placement guide.

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/setup/connection-guide/home-theater-speaker-guide/index.html

Surround speakers are designed to be to the side a little behind the seating position (90 to 110 degs). They should be more wide, than behind. I have in ceiling and they are at placed to the side about 95 degs.

been using monoprice in wall speakers for 2+ years. Small room but sounds good especially for the money.

So I decided to go with 6x 7604's as my front/surround/rear speakers, onkyo 717, and the BIC 12" sub

I am currently trying to decide on a center speaker. The center does not need to be "in wall". Is it OK to get a different brand center speaker? Are there any recommended centers to pair with these mono price 7604's?

Any help would be appreciated. I tried reading through many of these pages and didnt see much. I will continue reading though.

Thanks
Edited by xp0 - 2/10/13 at 12:06pm

I went with 7604's all the around (5.1 surround) for roughly $200 after it was all said and done. I was able to use the 20 percent coupon from monoprice and sold the extra 7604 (hate they only came in pairs) I had here on the forums. I can tell you I was suprised!!! I mounted a 7604 sideways for the center channel and mounted the L/R 7604's upside down so the tweeters would be closer to ear level. They sound damn good matched with a klipsch rw-12d on sale from newegg for 299 shipped. I was going to build backer boxes for mines but while waiting on the speaker specs from monoprice I went ahead and installed them. I stuffed the stud bays full of insulation from top to bottom so I could at least get consistent sound from all the speakers and they sound great as is so I doubt I would go back and do backer boxes. I could only see doing backer boxes if you are not going to run a sub. I couldn't be happier and everyone who hears it can't believe the price I paid for them.

For a receiver I went with denon 2112ci refurbished from accessories4less.com (to many horror stories on onkyo's so I stayed away from those plus I wanted audyssey multieq XT). I have cranked it up with no distortion at all. I would definitely recommend them for anyone who is on the fence about these speakers. I thank everyone on this forum for all the suggestions on all the equipment I got and I'll post some pics later

I just had my dedicated HT pre-wired for 7.1. My LRC will be vertical behind my screen at about 45" off the floor with my rears in the wall behind our seating in line with the L & R. The 2 side speakers will be in-ceiling since I have windows on one side and the other side is 23" feet away. I love this price point of speakers and the reviews have been very positive. I'm definitely not opposed to having my LRC and rears the same even if I have to buy 3 pairs and have an extra speaker left over.Which speakers would you guys suggest for this setup? My sub is a Klipsch RW12D. Thanks for the advice guys.

I'd go 7604s for the LRC and Rears. Then use 4929s for the sides in the ceiling.

Cant decide between the 4104s or the 7605s for in ceiling. I have the 4104s for home theater now and they do sound good for the money, but I am doing a new room with 4 speakers that will be 95% music. This thread is super long and I didnt want to read all the pages, so what are current opinions on the 7605s compared to polks? I will be sending them 100 watts per channel...any MP coupons out there?

no current monoprice coupon that I am aware of.

Does anyone have an extra 4101 to sell? I purchased 2 sets of the 4101, so I think I'll also use another 4101 as my center. Let me know, thanks!

I'm new to in wall and in ceiling speakers, can someone tell me if I have a good start going? I have the 8" two way fronts, 5.25" center and 8" in ceiling rears. 8" sub that will be upgraded to 12". I made a few make shift boxes for the fronts with open top and bottom. I stapled insulation to the back, do I need anything on the sides? I do have some leftover carpet padding. It's setup with the component cabinet on the left and a 60" TV to be flush mounted in the center of the wall. Does the spacing of the speakers look too far from the center? Thanks for any feedback.

Hi All,

I'm working on two projects for my home and would love some speaker/set-up input.
I'm new to in-wall / ceiling speakers.

The first is in-ceiling for music only. There are four zones which I plan to power by 2 Sonos Connect AMP.
I'm planning to include a pair of Monoprice 4104 in each zone.

Has anyone used these speakers with the Connect AMP? Any thoughts?
Would you suggest a different speaker combo?

The second is my home 7.1 home theater. The room is approximately 12' wide by 14' deep with 9' ceilings.
Currently still undecided on an amp but am planning these speakers.

• Front Surround - Monprice 6816
• Mid Surround - Monoprice 4104
• Rear Surround - Monoprice 7607 - Currently I'm undecided on going smaller on these, 7607.
• Centre - Monoprice 6317 - Would like the 4881 but am working with 16 O/C so it won't fit.
• Sub - Undecided, anyone have any experience with Monoprice in-wall?

This is a great thread but it's huge so please excuse me if I'm asking a similar question as before.

I KNOW its a long thread but I would suggest you go back and read thru it. Pretty much all of your questions are answered and when it comes down to deciding on which speaker to use, its a choice that you will have to make. This thread will discusses the following issues you will have to decide on:

1. On you LCR speakers do you want them all to be timbre matched or do you want a different model center channel?

2. Do you prefer an 8in woofer for your LR speakers when you will have a sub playing your lows or do you prefer to have smaller mids (5 1/4 's or 6 1/2's or both)? Some like 8's for more mid bass while others like the smaller woofer to articulate more detail.

3. Do you want a in wall sub (passive) you will have to buy another amp for or do you want a stand alone subwoofer (active) with amp built in?

Those are just a few point to get you started but going back thru the thread will definitely give you more info on all of your questions so you can make an informed decision. I haven't used sonos so maybe some one else will chime in with more info on that subject.

Hope that helps!

Thanks, more to add to the list of things to think about.
I've been going through the thread for a few days now, lots and lots and lots of info.

If anyone else has anything to add, please do!

First off, thank you to everybody who has contributed to this thread! I have learned a lot about these speakers while reading a good amount of the thread.

I am finishing my basement and the rec room I'll be installing my home theater is 13' 4.5" x 36' 1" with seating about 12' - 15' from one wall and an entrance to the left of the seating area with a bar area behind the seating area. I am planning a 7.1 system and have settled on the 7604s for LCR on the front wall, which makes sense with the amount of reviews in this thread.

I am still torn on the side and rear surrounds as those will have to be in-ceiling due to the open area behind and to the left side. I am considering the 4103s, 4104s and 4929s so I can use the pivoting tweeters. I've seen quite a few reviews on all the items and it seems most like the 4104 and 4929 over the 4103. I'll probably make a last minute decision on either the 4104 or the 4929 unless somebody would be willing to provide a little extra push one way or the other.

Well just my opinion, if you will be using a subwoofer (I do recommend the klipsch you can get from newegg) there is no need to have 8's for rears as they will be set to small by your receiver and low end will be handled by your sub. Now if you were doing in-ceiling for whole house audio and wanted more bass I could see using the 8's but for the theater with a sub you will be fine with 4103's.

XclusiveTN...... Thank You! I kind of agree with you on that. I don't see the reasoning for the 8" as I will purchase a sub for the low end. I currently have a Klipsch in my living room on the main level and love it so I probably will be going that same route. So 4103s are probably the answer then. Thanks for the input!

What Klipsch sub are people liking on Newegg.com? I have a Klipsch Sub-12 in my living room which I could move downstairs and purchase the Sub-10 they have for $179.99 after coupon for the living room.

Just out of curiousity, has anybody had any experience with Monoprice's12" powered sub 9723? Specs here:

Speaker Type 12" High Performance Powered Subwoofer
Driver 12" Reinforced
Amplifier Power Output 150 Watts RMS, 200 Watts Peak
Frequency Response 30 Hz - 250 Hz
Lowpass Crossover Adjustable from 50 Hz - 150 Hz
Functions Power (On/Off)
Inputs High Level (speaker), Line (RCA)
Dimensions (H x W x D) 17" x 17.25" x 17.5"

Here is the link to the thread (its a long thread also): http://www.avsforum.com/t/1442829/klipsch-rw-12d-on-sale-for-299-at-newegg-com-again-today/750#post_22993779

It goes back on sale pretty reguarly for 299 shipped which is hard to beat. It is great in my opinion and more than fits my needs! I do have to turn it down at times because it rattles my walls (that a good thing and I'm not complaining at all). I can't speak for the monoprice sub as I have never heard it but I can say that the Klipsch completes my home theater and no one can believe what I spent for the whole system! So far my system has been great and I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again.