Originally Posted by assassin
I have spent the last 2 hours reading this amazing thread.
Background: I have used the Monoprice in-walls 3 times in home theaters for 3 of my buddies and have been very impressed with the quality. Now I am getting ready to purchase Monoprice in-wall/ceilings for my new house which is getting built.
What I need:
A. 7.1 speakers for the home theater with my Paradigm 12" subwoofer. I will be purchasing a new AV receiver as my Denon 3806 HDMI went out. The front 3 speakers will be behind an audio transparent screen (120"). I have read the 7604 vs 6816 debate and am leaning towards the 6816 as I have used them multiple times and I think they are excellent. Thoughts?
B. 10 total rooms of "whole house" audio. In one of the rooms I will be re-using an old pair of Polk bookshelf speakers. The other 9 rooms (hearth room, dining room, master bedroom, 2 pair on the back covered patio, bonus room, garage and 2 pair in t he basement) will be in the ceiling. These will be powered by a HTD amplifier and my old Denon 3806 (analog). I am thinking of using the 6.5" 4103 as they have excellent reviews on AVS and on Monoprice. These speakers will mainly be for music during parties or for audio during big games (Super Bowl, Final 4, etc).
So to recap:
Home Theater: 4 pairs (7 channels) using the 6816 8" 3-way in-walls.
Whole house audio: 5 pairs of 6.5" 4103.
Let me know what you think and if you would change anything. Thanks in advance!
As you may have seen, I am using 6816s as front, surround and rear surrounds in my 11.1 HT. The centres (x4) and wides are 6317s, and the height speakers are 4101s. It sounds amazing in that room, and nobody believes the price I paid for 14 speakers. If I were to change anything, it would be the location of the height speakers, and possibly using in-ceilings with angled tweeters for them. I might also have gone with 7604s for the centres and wides, but the room was made before I had seen any reliable accounts of the 7604s, and I was familiar with the 6317s already. I'm afraid that I don't have any experience whatsoever with the 7604s. However, my HT has pretty decent bass even with the sub off. due to the power handling and 8" woofers of the 6816s
My dining room is also a 7.1 in-wall with 4101s (which I bought before the 6816s were available) and two of the older 4-Ohm 6317 equivalents in series as centre speakers. The 6816s of my HT blow the 4101s away, even though the latter don't sound bad at all. The dining room is used for music only, but we set it up for 7.1 in case the next owners (or we) later wanted to use the room as the living/TV room, as it was originally. My Media/living room is also 11.1, but uses floor standing and bookshelf speakers. If I didn't have these already and I was aware of how good the monoprice speakers could sound, I'd have in-walled that room too!
In my opinion, one of the reason my HT sounds incredible, to even many picky listeners, is because I invested a lot on using sonopan sound-proofing behind the drywall and in the ceilings. The floor is also covered with tessellating mats bought from Costco, at a ridiculously low price for floor coverage. These tiles are very soft underfoot and absorb a lot of bass, I think, for about 50c per square foot. They don't look bad either, and under them is plain plywood.
I would suggest that while the house is being built you invest another $150 - $200 in speakers and a little on cables and prepare for 11.1 sound for HT. DTS-NEO X is fantastic, and more and more mid-high end receivers will include it, not to mention Dolby Atmos and MDA around the corner for home use too. Even if you don't use all 11 speakers with the very next AVR you buy, at these prices it's better to future-proof before the dry-wall goes up.
Overall, I think your plans are good, except I'd go 11.1 on the HT. I also must reiterate that I am biased towards the 6816s from experience, without having heard the 7604s. I also have no experience with any of the in-ceiling speakers.