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post #1651 of 1791
I have a question about installing these on a wall that is has drywall on one side only and studs exposed on the other. I have a finished basement, but the wall that I would put them on has an unfinished storage area on the other side. If I were to mount these, would I need some type of enclosure on the other side? I was thinking of either building a box or just using MDF to seal the entire wall cavity between the studs from floor to ceiling. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Edited by Silo5 - 5/17/13 at 8:47am
post #1652 of 1791
I am in a situation where my fireplace w/ 65" TV on top is forcing me to skip the Center channel and am forced to go w/ a Phantom Center. For the L/R speakers I am using monoprice 6816s & I want to make sure I am doing this right before cutting holes in the Family Room walls. Where to put the L/R? How high off the ground? Room is 16' W and opens deep to a Nook, with open ceilings too. Couch is 14' away slightly off center, with the nook table another 15' further back. How far off of the L/R walls & the TV should I put the the L/R speakers? Does it matter if I go Horizontal instead of vertical-if so do I put the Woofer inside w/ TV as opposed to out? Any recommendations would be appreciated. Here are the speakers I am using: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083703&p_id=6816&seq=1&format=2
post #1653 of 1791
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Originally Posted by ppmax View Post

Hi ReluctantFlux--

>>2.) Speaker placement.
>>I'm going with the 4928

Out of curiosity, how are you powering your 4928?

thx
PP

I'll be using a 1 RCA to 2 RCA splitter going from the Preout Sub output of my receiver, to the CD Analog L/R input. Then I'll set the Zone 2 on the receiver to be CD Analog input. I'll then set my Surround Back speaker posts to be Zone 2 output. These will then have wires going to the 4928.


Daniel Smith,

Thanks for your input! I thought putting the speakers in the side wall with one in the front would cause some sound stage issues. Even if that were not an issue, I don't know if the wife would go for it, from an aesthetics perspective. I had thought about doing a 2.1 setup and mounting thin speakers to the left and right of the tv, but I haven't found any reasonably priced mounts to do this, plus, didn't want to add that weight and vibration to the tv mount.

I'll probably be going with speaker placement closer to Option B. I forgot that I had some 2 recessed spotlights for the Fireplace mantle, and it'd be weird if I put a speaker between the two.

Still curious on anyone's input on the different models.
post #1654 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Silo5 View Post

I have a question about installing these on a wall that is has drywall on one side only and studs exposed on the other. I have a finished basement, but the wall that I would put them on has an unfinished storage area on the other side. If I were to mount these, would I need some type of enclosure on the other side? I was thinking of either building a box or just using MDF to seal the entire wall cavity between the studs from floor to ceiling. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Throw a piece of insulation in there, staple it down, then cover the back side of the stud from ceiling to floor. You can also build a box with inexpensive plywood. I would make the box as large as possible. These speakers were designed with the wall cavity resonance in mind.
post #1655 of 1791
I'm going to install my 3 fronts into a wall that has drywall, and OSB that I will need to cut through. What is the best tool to use. Should I use a jig saw, or reciprocating saw to cut through both at the same time? Or should I cut out the drywall first by hand with blade and then cut out the OSB. Are the mounting clips going to be thick enough to mount on a 5/16" drywall + 3/4" OSB?
post #1656 of 1791
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Originally Posted by Daniel Smith View Post

I'm going to install my 3 fronts into a wall that has drywall, and OSB that I will need to cut through. What is the best tool to use. Should I use a jig saw, or reciprocating saw to cut through both at the same time? Or should I cut out the drywall first by hand with blade and then cut out the OSB. Are the mounting clips going to be thick enough to mount on a 5/16" drywall + 3/4" OSB?
Just for clarifications the wall I'm planning on putting speakers is as 2x6 framed interior shear wall.
post #1657 of 1791
I need some help from the experts. This is my first time into the adventure of in-ceiling speakers. I really need advice on the types of speakers (I am still confused about 2 way vs 3 way, crossover, etc.) the number of speakers and most importantly placement. I know in-ceiling speakers are not optimal for a 5.1 surround setup, but that is all the wife will go for. I think she will let me hide the sub in the corner, but she does not even want in-wall speakers. I have a living room with 65" TV (you can see the cut out above the fireplace in first picture). I know that is not ideal either especially because the TV will be high and it is best to have it level to the viewing plane, but she wants the couch against the wall and the contractor already cut the installation hole for it. My plan was a 5.1 in the living room with 8" and then 6" stereo pair or perhaps 3,4 speakers in the kitchen/dining room. All the flooring will be engineered hardwood glued down if that makes a difference. Living room will mostly be movies/TV and kitchen/dining room will be casual listening to music during the day. I really need to know which monoprice model number to buy and how to set up the speakers. Most importantly, do I place at a angle in the direction of the TV (as you can see the fireplace is at an angle) or parallel to the walls of the room in stand formation? The couch will most likely be against the wall. Also would you just put 2 speakers in the kitchen or 2 kitchen & 2 dining room or 3 in the kitchen alternating between the lights. The room measurements are living room = 20x14, kitchen = 15x13 and dining room = 15x9. I have included 3 pictures. The first in the living room. The second is the corner of the living room where the couch will most likely go. The third is the kitchen (the dining room is not shown but connects the living room and kitchen). Thank you everyone in advance for your advice and help.





post #1658 of 1791
I have an extra in-wall LCR 7604 speaker. These are only sold in pairs, so if you want one to avoid purchasing an extra, let me know. Or even just to try it out, shoot me a PM. It's boxed up and could ship today even.

SOLD.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083702&p_id=7604&seq=1&format=1#largeimage



https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0lNygTqqUADLTZSckdyWDc3RVk/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0lNygTqqUADdy16YVFVU2JTQnc/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0lNygTqqUADYlEwMHd6MkxOOEk/edit?usp=sharing
Edited by CentralCoaster - 6/17/13 at 1:34pm
post #1659 of 1791
This has been a great thread and gave me a lot of information on these speakers but being a newbie I am a little confused when it comes to matching speakers and receivers.

I am considering a 7604 LCR combination with 7605 surrounds and backs. These are all 6 ohm and 80 watts nominal. The receiver I am considering is the Marantz NR1604 which is rated at 70W @ 6 ohm (1KHz with 0.7% THD).

I understand I will be under powering the speakers but how much of an impact will this have in a multipurpose living room? The room is 12' x 16' with almost a 9' ceiling. I am limited to the slim line receiver so I am trying to find an optimal speaker match.

Thanks for the help......
post #1660 of 1791
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Originally Posted by mayor west View Post

This has been a great thread and gave me a lot of information on these speakers but being a newbie I am a little confused when it comes to matching speakers and receivers.

I am considering a 7604 LCR combination with 7605 surrounds and backs. These are all 6 ohm and 80 watts nominal. The receiver I am considering is the Marantz NR1604 which is rated at 70W @ 6 ohm (1KHz with 0.7% THD).

I understand I will be under powering the speakers but how much of an impact will this have in a multipurpose living room? The room is 12' x 16' with almost a 9' ceiling. I am limited to the slim line receiver so I am trying to find an optimal speaker match.

Thanks for the help......
That pairing will work perfectly fine.
post #1661 of 1791
Now that I'm totally dialed with my monoprice 5.1 system, I have a total noob question about 5.1 sound.

I ripped a bunch of DVDs and stream them from my computer. The movies are encoded h.264 with stereo audio. Will my amp (pioneer vsx-1021) convert two channel to multichannel sound? Or do I need to rip in 5.1? I played one movie that only engaged my front L/R....and played another movie that had all 5 speakers working.

Thx
PP
post #1662 of 1791
I'm building a new house and am going with in-ceiling speakers for my 5.1 setup. Trying to decide between 4103 and 4619 for my fronts and rears. Is it better to choose one or the other, or should I use the 3-ways (4619) for fronts and 2-ways (4103) for rears? The center speaker will be placed on the mantle. Are there any bookshelf center speakers that will match well with the Monoprice in-ceiling speakers? Thanks for the help!
post #1663 of 1791
I'm thinking about purchasing 7604's for my LCR. I need in ceiling speakers for the surrounds. What goes best with the 7604's? 4103's or 7605's? Something else?

Also should I mount the center 7604 vertically or horizontally? Would it even matter? I would prefer vertically but will go horizontal if there is a benefit.

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post #1664 of 1791
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Originally Posted by jmoakk View Post

I'm thinking about purchasing 7604's for my LCR. I need in ceiling speakers for the surrounds. What goes best with the 7604's? 4103's or 7605's? Something else?

Also should I mount the center 7604 vertically or horizontally? Would it even matter? I would prefer vertically but will go horizontal if there is a benefit.

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I am mounting my 7604's vertically upside down since they will need to be higher up on the wall. The coaxial mid/tweeter will be at about 6 ft. The 7605 is an exact match with the 7604s. If you can fit it (they are large and deep and expensive).
post #1665 of 1791
Well I just got done chatting with monoprice. For an 20x20 room they recommend the 4100 and 4103.

I mentioned a lot of people seem to like the 7604 and asked what surrounds would go best with them. He recommended the 4929. Anyone agree with this?

I also asked if all of their in walls/ceiling accept 12awg speaker wire and he said yes. Is that true? I thought some mentioned that 12awg wouldn't fit in the speakers with spring clips.

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post #1666 of 1791
Well I decided to go with the 7604's for my LCR and the 7605's for my surrounds.

There comes a point when you just need to go for it and see for yourself.

I'll post a review after I get everything setup.

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post #1667 of 1791
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Originally Posted by jmoakk View Post

Well I decided to go with the 7604's for my LCR and the 7605's for my surrounds.

There comes a point when you just need to go for it and see for yourself.

I'll post a review after I get everything setup.

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Good choice! I was in the same boat you are in and you are correct in that you can get all of the reviews and opinions but at some point you have to see how it will sound for yourself. Don't worry, you will be happy with the setup. I went with 7604's all the around 5.1 paired with a Klipsch 12in sub and I wouldnt change a thing. I mounted my L/R speakers upside down so the tweeter would sit higher and mounted the C sideways. Whenever I upload the pictures from my camera I will post them of the total install. Let us know how you like it once you get it installed!
post #1668 of 1791
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Originally Posted by ppmax View Post

Now that I'm totally dialed with my monoprice 5.1 system, I have a total noob question about 5.1 sound.

I ripped a bunch of DVDs and stream them from my computer. The movies are encoded h.264 with stereo audio. Will my amp (pioneer vsx-1021) convert two channel to multichannel sound? Or do I need to rip in 5.1? I played one movie that only engaged my front L/R....and played another movie that had all 5 speakers working.

Thx
PP

Re-rip to 5.1
post #1669 of 1791
Where the hell do they hide the grill removal tool!?

Something so simple slowing me down...

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post #1670 of 1791
Mine were floating loose in there. Maybe suck to a speaker magnet? I used a bent paper clip until I found it. The tool is much easier on the fingers.
post #1671 of 1791
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Originally Posted by XclusiveTN View Post

Good choice! I was in the same boat you are in and you are correct in that you can get all of the reviews and opinions but at some point you have to see how it will sound for yourself. Don't worry, you will be happy with the setup. I went with 7604's all the around 5.1 paired with a Klipsch 12in sub and I wouldnt change a thing. I mounted my L/R speakers upside down so the tweeter would sit higher and mounted the C sideways. Whenever I upload the pictures from my camera I will post them of the total install. Let us know how you like it once you get it installed!

I am in the same boat as both you and jmoakk and was going to go with the same 7604 and 7605 and just call it a day, you can only read so many opinions before your head feels like its going to explode. This is for my new finished basement and my living room currently has the 4101 and 4104 combo. Reading through all this I didn't see anything comparing the 7604/7605 vs. 4101/4104. Am I missing something? What justifies the much higher price difference? For a 7.1 setup its almost $200 more.

Thanks in advance for any personal feedback.
post #1672 of 1791
Need some quick help, guys. I ordered about $140 worth of 12AWG in-wall wire, 12AWG speaker wire, wall plates, speaker mounts, and banana/pin plugs to wire my buddy's garage. He has a pair of old no-name speakers with a 10" woofer that he wants to use. They're nothing to write home about.

I already ordered from Monoprice. Now I am having extreme second thoughts!!! I had not considered just getting a Monoprice in-wall pair of speakers. I need to decide in the next 2 days if I want to send all of that monoprice stuff back and get a pair of in-wall speakers instead. I really think I can hit the same $140 budget going with 100Ft of 14AWG in-wall wire and a pair of Monoprice in-walls. We need about 75Ft of wire to make into his living room where the AVR will reside. This seems like a much more clean and elegant solution.

What would be the best choice for 2 channel only in-wall speakers from Monoprice? They will be installed into a garage and used as Zone 2 from A Denon X4000 or Marantz SR5006 (we have not decided yet).

If we used one of the in-wall subwoofers, is it possible to power then with extra channels from the AVR (if they are assignable, sending full range to the subwoofer) or must it be powered by a separate amp?
Edited by Greg121986 - 6/29/13 at 10:25am
post #1673 of 1791
I have yet to get my speakers installed but I must say I am very happy with the build quality. These things are beastly and do not feel cheap at all.

I spent the last few days installing my new 120in AT screen and Denon 2113CI. The speakers are next on my list of things to do.
post #1674 of 1791
I am considering adding two 10" passive subs to my setup. I am wondering how to best achieve optimal results.

I am using all MonoPrice in-wall speakers, and powered sub that I custom built. The AVR I am using is a Denon 2311CI.

I do not want to add another powered sub, rather - just the two passives to help give my l/r mains a little more low end (primarily for music listening). I will continue to use my powered sub for LFE.

I am using the 8" 3-way speakers for my l/r mains.

What if I pick up two of these:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083705&p_id=4928&seq=1&format=2

And one of these:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10903&cs_id=1090305&p_id=9995&seq=1&format=2#description

Then...just connect the output terminals properly (l main to left sub, r main to r sub) and send the "input" of the speaker selector to the l/r main terminals on the 2311CI?

Will that in essence, give me the lower end I want from the front mains, while still sending only the LFE to the sub I custom built? I think so. I will basically make my l/r mains "bigger" in the eyes of the Audyssey, without technically adding another sub.

The selector is supposed to send the proper impedence to the amp. I just wonder, if I connect an 8 ohm 3-way speaker to a passive sub, what that may do the the overall impedence. Both the 3-way and the passive sub are rated at 100 watts nominal, 200 watts peak.

Is there anyone on this thread - or from MonoPrice (if they're reading this) that can help me?

Thanks in advance.
post #1675 of 1791
^^ Sorry to be a pest, but can anyone verify the wiring plan I have as being effective for the goals I am wanting to achieve?
post #1676 of 1791
If you connect two 8 ohm speakers in parallel, its going to be seen as a 4 ohm load which could be hard on the amp depending on how hard you push it. If you connect them in series it's 16 ohm. IDK what happens when you connect 2 different types of speakers in series, sounds like a bad idea on paper.

On the rest of your questions, it seems overcomplicated. If you don't like the audyssey setup with "large" front speakers chosen, then you can manually change the crossover points to get more low end from the amp to those channels, while still having LFE at the main sub.
post #1677 of 1791
Thanks for the reply. Audyssey sees my speakers as "small." I did manually set the crossovers higher than what the receiver calls for, from 60 to 80 hz as recommended in the AVS Audyssey thread. I haven't experimented with keeping them at 60, or changing the speakers to large.
post #1678 of 1791
Hey guy,
I have the 7604 for my lcr. Now I'm looking for surrounds and a set for the kitchen (music only). What in walls do you recommend? Should I just get more 7604s or can I get a cheaper model that will work for my situation?
Thanks
post #1679 of 1791
Just an update...
I recalibrated my system. Results were the same, but this time I left the crossovers where they were and did not up them to 80 hz.
The result is a better musical performance from the front speakers.
I think that rather than building in wall subs, I will just keep things as is.

At least for now. smile.gif

Thanks again for you help.
post #1680 of 1791
I am seriously thinking about using monoprice in ceiling and some wall spots throughout my house. Is there a back/enclosure that could be put on any of them for installing into a ceiling/wall that backs up to insulation?

I want to fill in the blown in insulation over the top in the attic for example.
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