Monoprice in-wall, in-ceiling speakers - Page 8

i am curious how the center channel speaker sounds to complete a 5.1/7.1 system without having to use one of a pair of the regular in-walls.

I am in need of only one of the round 8" monoprice in-ceilings. Does anyone have a single one they would like to sell (preferrably unused)? Thanks.

I have a 7.1 setup I am building and I installed the Monoprice.com speakers for everything except my center channel. I couldnt use one of their in-wall speakers because of a wood beam running above my TV. What would be a good compliment to these speakers to finish off my system? Polk? Infinity? Russound?

I too am considering these speakers for a general watching tv room as a 5.1 set up, nothing really critical, and dont really have the option to use an in-wall center, but was thinking if it would be better to buy a 3rd party center as mentioned above polk etc. or what if I bought one of the centers they sell and constructed those speakers into a cabinet of their own? that way I would have a matching set across the front soundstage..... and suggestions on the cabinet design I would want to keep it as small as possible....

Is there any kind of retrofit baffle or box I can use to drop in behind the 8" in ceiling speakers? I am installing in existing construction (with no back access) and would like to increase the bass response from these a bit.

Thanks.

Thespeakercompany (TSC) has a newish in-wall model that looks promising.

http://www.thespeakercompany.com/PTI...er-P90C11.aspx

The specs don't appear quite as nice as the Polk on paper (though close) for what that's worth.

The neat thing is that these have a back on them and look promising. THe other nice thing is that TSC lets you try before you buy, problem is that the hole made by these would be bigger than the hole needed for most other 6' speakers.

Thoughts?

I'm looking at the 10 in-wall sub(s) at Monoprice.

Assuming that you could solve the vibration issue of the wall (and anything hanging on it), how would one wire an in wall sub¿ The idea of a conspicuous sub crouching in the corner doesn't thrill my wife and flush mounted varieties better suit her idea of good speakers . . . heard but not seen. I beg to differ of course, but I'm willing to compromise. I'm not expecting the performance of a dedicated LFE sub by any means, but I would like to have a bit more punch if possible. The wall that these would be mounted in opens up into the garage so space aft of the driver and extra support isn't an issue.

Monoprice says "Pair these with each of your main speakers for clearer, more well defined audio and wider sound staging" but not much more. The Frequency Response claims to be 35 Hz to 3.0 Khz so obviously this is intended to be a sub, but what about the higher frequencies¿ I don't see an outgoing set of speaker terminals to pass on higher frequencies to front speakers. Is it understood that you're supposed to drive these with a second amp or the "B" speaker terminals from the receiver¿ I have an older Onkyo receiver that I could line in from the LFE output on my newer digital receiver and fully power a pair of these beauties.

Thanks in advance for any ideas here!

For those who've been on the fence like me, there are 2 deals on Polk in-ceiling speakers that are about the same and might give those like me that are torn on tearing up the wall with the proper speaker.

For approx $96 shipped, through an Amazon seller, you'll find the RC60is here.

Here they are for $99 shipped on Newegg.

This might be too good for me to pass up (or at least closer to reality). While the TSC ones look tempting as well, this price is a little closer to what I want and I don't want these for just home theatre use. And Polk has never let me down and in-wall speakers scare me a little because of the bass reduction, and I don't want to get 8" and loose all the midrange freqs.

Question though, it it bad to use in-ceiling on a wall instead? They'd take less space and as long as they sound as good, I'm cool with it especially for about 1/2 the price (of the Polks that is).

Tom Andry of Audioholics said good things about the in-walls from The Speaker Company in last week's AvRant podcast.

I noticed that the Speaker Company's in-walls have polypropylene drivers like the more expensive Monoprice in-walls (The cheaper ones have Kevlar as well as spring loaded pressure clips for inputs.). The speaker designs look very similar. However, Monoprice's crossover circuitry has a lot more capacitors than TSC's.

http://www.thespeakercompany.com/IW-...ers-P9C11.aspx

vs.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...t=1#largeimage

TSC is only $9 more than Monoprice. If the economy weren't so crappy, I'd get both and A/B them for the world.

Adcprod, plenty of people use in-ceilings as in-walls. BTW, if you live near a Fry's, those Polk in-ceilings go on sale nearly every weekend for usually the same price as the online prices you quoted.

i finally got my 8" in-ceilings mounted and hooked up. these are in our master bedroom and are hooked up to an older Sony 2 channel receiver. they are going to be used for music listening and the occasional movie.

installation impressions: extremely easy (just as other in-walls i've installed); really can't get any easier

sound impressions: AWESOME - love them

the sound is full and clear. even without enclosing the rear, the bass is deep and true.

these answered the question i had about running them in our living room for the 5.1 setup. we will be getting the 8" in-walls for the living room. that is basically the ultimate thing i could say about them....i will buy more and use them for our surround sound.









these are really a pleasure to listen to.

Clean job on the install. Kudos!

thanks. i am quite happy with them. they sound awesome.

Anyone know how the 6.5" Monoprice speakers might compare to the Proficient 6.5" (C620, for example)? I think they are made by Speakercraft, but am not sure.

I am looking for speakers for a whole house audio setup and these Proficient are being proposed.

Here are the specs from their website:

Proficient C620 Ceiling Speakers
One pair of ceiling speakers with 61/2" polypropylene woofers, 1" pivoting silk dome tweeters and 100 watt power handling.
Power Handling: 100 watts
Frequency Response: 36Hz - 20kHz
Impedance: 8Ω
Sensitivity: 91dB 1W/1m
Diameter x Depth: 91/4" x 35/8"
Ceiling Cut Out: 81/4"

6.5" Kevlar Monoprice:
6.5〞2-WAY IN-CEILING SPEAKERS
Power Handling Capacity: 60 Watts Nominal, 120 Maximum
Frequency Response: 55 Hz - 20,000 Hz
Impedance: 8 Ohms
Woofer: 6.5" Kevlar Woven Cone Woofer w/ 16.5oz Magnet and rubber surrounds.
Tweeter: 3/4" Titanium Silk Membrane Dome (Pivoting)‧20Φ Swivel
Voice Coil: 35Φ K.S.V
Sensitivity: 89 +/- 2db (1.0M/2.83V)
Crossover: 12dB per Octave (with -3, -6 dB Switch)
Cut-Out Dimensions: 8.07"
Overall Dimensions: 9.4"
Mounting Depth: 2 3/4"

Price up to $57.xx

Do you all think the 8" in ceiling speakers would serve well in the ceiling as the 2 side rears? I plan to have 2 of the 8" as my rear left/right, but want 7.1 and the room doesn't allow for them to actually be on the side, so I was thinking of putting them in the ceiling on the sides...?

Secondly, I have been lurking on here for help with multi-room speakers throughout the house, not intended for high quality music but more back ground music and just low leveled music to play in other rooms of the house when working in other rooms...so I've been reading about these MonoPrice speakers, 6 1/2" or 8".

Do these speakers work with wall volume controls? Can I get just any volume controls that I find for a good price or does it have to be a certain brand?
Also, what kind of speaker wire would you suggest for the multi-room speakers? I'd assume my surround speakers would need a better quality?

I know NOTHING about speaker selectors, I want/need one that will give me at least 8 pair selection, but don't know what is good/bad in brands/features etc...I don't want to spend a lot, and found some on amazon all under $100, but not sure if they have the needed features.

I will be setting up the selector to the Zone 2 of a Denon 2309ci...if that helps any?

Like whats the big difference in these two of the same maker? One is Dual Source and one isnt? I guess I just need one source, which is my Zone 2?

Phoenix Gold ISM-8 Impedance-Matching 8-Speaker Selector
http://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-ISM-8-...2047094&sr=8-4

PHOENIX GOLD DSSM-8 8-ZONE Dual Source Speaker Selectors
http://www.amazon.com/PHOENIX-DSSM-8...TYGHEEPG51YQ98

And lastly, since I think installing all this speakers, speaker wire, volume controls, and network cables, is above my skill level, who should I look up in my local phone book for the install?
An electrician? A geek squad? I plan to have all the hardware purchased, just need the installer...where do I find one?

as you can see above, i am running the MP 8" in-ceilings in our master bedroom for 2-channel audio. they sound great for this purpose, so i would not doubt that they would be a good choice for rear/side surrounds where even less will be played through them.

for whole house sound, i would probably go for the 6.5" version of these speakers, as you probably will not need the power handling and/or crankability of the 8". i would put the 8" where you think you would need that though.

these speakers will work with volume controls the same as any other.

Any detriment to putting in all 8" throughout the house? It isn't a whole lot more initial investment, and I'd rather be future proof, but if it takes a lot more wattage to drive the 8" vs. the 6.5", that might be a good reason not to since I will have 8 pairs running on the second zone of a Yamaha 663 (though almost never would all 8 pairs be turned up).

Thanks TXST8tj, I guess I was just assuming the 8" would be good in whole house sound due the price difference in the 6.5", very minimal. But the power issue you bring up has me wondering something. If I'm going to use the Zone 2 portion of my Denon 2309 for whole house speakers (with 8 speaker selector) do I need an amp to push to the 8 zones, or will the 2309's Zone 2 be able to push to the 8 zones via the 8 speaker selector?

This was another question that came to mind.

OK, maybe someone needs to give me a wake-up call about expectations.

I just hooked up a pair of the 8-inch Monoprice in-ceilings -- not into the ceiling, just in front of an A/V receiver to test them out -- and I am utterly underwhelmed. Where's the bass? Are they not getting enough power from my Pioneer 1014TX? That doesn't seem possible. It's rated at 110 watts X 7 channels. (Update: That's not the case. I tested the Monoprice 6 1/2s, too. Same result.)

My B&W 602 S3s, which are 8-inch bookshelf speakers, are louder at the same volume, much deeper and with 10 times the bass of the Monoprices. I'm not expecting these to compare to B&Ws with speaker enclosures, but sheesh. It's night and day. I'm going to have to play these at very high volumes in the living area to get any bass at all out of them.

I really hope these 8-inch Monoprices sound better when they're installed in the ceiling, or I'm going to be disappointed. I really didn't want to have to build speaker boxes. (Nor am I certain it would help that much.) It's almost as if the Pioneer isn't sending them a full-strength signal. (But it is. I even unhooked one of the B&Ws and hooked its speaker wire to one of the Monoprices.)

Hmmm. Maybe I'm an idiot, but wow. I thought they'd be a bit more impressive. Again, maybe they'll sound better in-ceiling and in-wall. I sure hope so. I bought four pairs of these suckers for in-ceiling music in the living room and in-wall surround in the theater room.

i would think it would be pretty obvious that an unmounted speaker is not going to reflect the same sound a mounted speaker would.
an unmounted, unsecured speaker is going to transfer most of the sound waves via vibration, which will be dampened in whatever the speaker is sitting on.

mount them as they should be and give them a whirl. i think you will get a better idea of how they are supposed to sound after that.
don't expect B&W quality, but i can tell you i have certainly been impressed with them @ 100w/channel.

the power issue is all i could see any problem with. these 8" are pretty power hungry from what i have been able to tell. they sound GREAT with 100w/speaker. i have not hooked them to anything less to say how they would do with lower power.
i 100% understand/relate to the 'future proof' deal. i would imagine as long as you are not trying to crank all 8 pairs at the same time, running the 8" throughout would be just fine.

hey guys, i'm looking at the monoprice in walls to go with my polk R50's and CSR center to complete a 5-1 system. they will be mounted on my rear walls about 15-18 ft away and will be used as surrounds. can i get an opinion on how these would work with the polks and also what size would be adequate; 5,6, or the 8'' woofer. i have a velodyne 10'' sub and onkyo 506 receiver. any help on making a decision would be greatly appreciated.

I have installed the 8" in-ceiling speakers in a 5.1 setup and I am pretty disappointed in the low end response. There is not must bass to speak of. Any tricks or suggestions on how to improve the low end?

There is about 14" between ceiling and second floor. I-joist construction and front 3 are all in the same cavity (i.e. joists run left to right and so do speakers). There is currently no insulation in the ceiling.

I am considering adding a 2-3' batt of insulation above each speaker, but wondering if that will make a difference or if there are any other suggestions.

Thanks in advance.

I got my 7.1 setup running tonight. Everything but my chennel channel is a Monoprice speaker.

So far I have been very pleased, they sound great on the mids/highs. The bass does need help, but hey thats what powered subwoofers are for! I think once I install a subwoofer the sound will be complete. I'm not shooting for dedicated home theater performance, I dont have the $$$. But I want it to sound good and I think with the MP speakers I am well on my way.

Just read this entire thread. I have a deal on some Dynaudio IW 17's but at $750pr, even my deal still costs more than my budget. Since it's going in a vacation home, I'm considering the Monoprice 8" in-walls, but the comparo a few pages back has me thinking about the Audiosource AS8S on Amazon that one said sounded better. Anyone else make any A/B comparisons with the Monoprice vs other brands? Everyone still very happy with their purchase?

What would you guys recommend?
My receiver is a 1000W system (143w x 5 + 285w)
I am going to be using these as a 5.1 (the center speaker is a different speaker either to be mounted above or below the TV)
Should I go with the 8inch or the 6inch speakers?

Is your receiver really capable of 143w x 5? I doubt it. If it's a Sony, cut those power ratings by at least half. If your receiver really is capable, it costs way more than something most of us use with these Monoprice in-walls.

Ya it is a sony.
Those are the ratings provided for it.
It is a HT-SS2300. I am just going to use that until I can afford something else.

Giving this a bump since I would like to purchase these soon