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What are your top 5 reasons for purchasing your AV Receiver

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
Hello Everyone!

I have a question for anyone willing to comment. When shopping and/or eventually buying an AV Receiver, what 5 aspects became most important in making your decision:

a) Claimed Power rating (watts per channel),
b) Actual/true performance.....there's a difference between "a" and "b".
c) Sound Quality
d) Video routing and scaling performance
e) User Friendliness: GUI; menu navigation; ease of set up; remote
f) Name Brand/Reputation
g) Build quality: materials used; tactile feel; reliability
h) Warranty and customer service
i) Merchant/Retailer
j) Features: bells and whistles
k) Compatibility with exsisting components/integration/sound quality with speakers
l) Aesthetics: looks; color; LED display (color and layout); fascia layout(volume input select, etc,....)
m) Size: weight and dimensions
n) Price
o) Value
p) Expandability/firmware upgrade-ability: avoidance of premature obsolescence.

I know I listed a lot of factors. The choices are in no particular order. Some may not even be relevant in your decision. And then again, the things you did not think were important may somehow become paramount because of unforeseen circumstances.
I do know that buyer's remorse often is a result of not knowing/understanding/recognizing what the true needs are for he or she to have the perfect AV Receiver for your given situation.

Now most likely, somewhere in this forum, someone has posed a similar question, but after reading variuos threads, I really think that a lot of folks really have a hard time choosing a AV Receiver. Or if they have picked one, after having time with the product for one reason or another, wish they would have pick the other, or at the least wonder if they made the right decision. That said, I do realize that the average Joe is subject to whatever and however the retailer chooses to display their merchandise for demos which can often lead to a lack luster presentation to say the least. Not to mention those who are flying blind, buying off the internet and/or using reviews and forums (AVS) to make this very important decision.

Regards!
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post #2 of 30
c,g,d(HDMI audio and video handling, no scaling),n,h

I that order on my last AVR purchase 10/06. (Marantz SR7001)
post #3 of 30
c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,

Mostly to get the newer audio decoding. Bonuses were to get away from Audyssey, to be able to drive all my speakers without external amplification, THX, have a display on the front panel readable from my seating postion, computer readout of eq picked by receiver (MCACC) and to get rid of an HDMI switch box. A huge discovery was the complete codeset of discretes for my MX850. A nice feature is the internet and neural radio.

Pioneer VSX94TXH from Best Buy with 12% off and three years no interest.
post #4 of 30
O Value
G Build quality: materials used; tactile feel; reliability
C Sound Quality


It came down to Denon AVR-988 and Onkyo 805, and I kept the Denon due to sound quality.
post #5 of 30
The only reason I am even considering swapping out my trusty 1014 is for HDMI audio.
post #6 of 30
100% due to an inability to hear the lossless audio codecs on my old receiver (and the cimplicity of HDMI one-cord audio).
post #7 of 30
First, I choose a brand I trust. I could, of course, have misplaced trust. Regardless, I tend to look at Yamaha and Denon. Pioneer seems nice too.

That eliminates a lot of variables for me

Then, it's all about features. That's a good thing. Receivers used to try to distinguish themselves using all sorts of marketing.

I would look for -

* Number of HDMI inputs (at least three)
* HDMI upconversion
* DTS-MA HD decoding (because it's lacking in players)
* Sufficient power (usually a given with this feature set)
* Ability to apply processing modes to MPCM

Also, many receivers seem to have some sort of gotchas. That's likely due to their complexity and the relative "newness" of HDMI and high defintion audio. It's a good idea to do your homework on any model to make sure you can live with any gotchas.
post #8 of 30
c,g,d(HDMI audio and video handling, no scaling),n,h

In that order on my last AVR purchase 12/08. (Marantz SR8002)


*Thanks JOHNnDENVER
post #9 of 30
c, k, d, o, p (Sony STR-DG1000)
post #10 of 30
b,c,d,e,p
post #11 of 30
b,c,j,n,o
post #12 of 30
Thread Starter 
So far, after 10 responses, it seems that "(C) Sound quality" is the most important feature.
Second would be connectivity. Obviously, HDMI being the main concern. Anyone for build quality, power, expandability?!!!!
post #13 of 30
Hi, everybody. I'd like some advice. I recently bit the bullet and got both HD-DVD and Blu Ray. Now I want to take full advantage the new audio formats so I plan to sell my Denon AVR 4806ci and replace it with someting that has HDMI 1.3. I am leaning towards a Denon 4308ci. My thoughts are 1.3, good reviews, familiarity with Denon, and HD radio. Am I missing something with a competitive offering? I was hoping to find something with an LCD preview screen so I wouldn't need to fire up my monitor for adjustments, and/or a built in AC-3 demodulator for my LD player, and/or enhanced iPod connectivity. Am I choosing the best one in that price range without going to seperates? Any thoughts?
John
post #14 of 30
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Originally Posted by ldgibson76 View Post

Anyone for build quality, power, expandability?!!!!

My current receiver (Denon 4800) has at least as much if not power, build quality and expandability as anything I am likely to buy as far as a receiver. In fact I am more likely to go with a pre-pro because I don't think there is a receiver out there that will give me the power I want.

The main reason for me to upgrade will be the new codecs.
post #15 of 30
My wife gave me permission to do so.
post #16 of 30
c,g,j,n and o.

I wanted HDMI 1.3 with the HD audio formats. Price played a big factor as I bought the Onkyo 805 refurb. from shoponkyo for what I consider a bargain. I like the build and sound quality of the 805 over the Denon but reliabilty is a big question mark with the Onkyo. But so far the 805 has been trouble free (knock on wood). Just noticed I was only supposed to chose five (duh).


Bill
post #17 of 30
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

My wife gave me permission to do so.

This should be added to the list. Probably the most important factor! Only a real man will admit this. I snuck mine in when my wife wasn't looking.

Bill
post #18 of 30
My first receiver (purchased last year) only had a few deciding factors.

Went from a TV to a projector, so we absolutely needed a receiver.

Unfortuantely, being the idiot that I often am, I hadn't really thought that far ahead, so there was no budget for receiver/speakers.

So, went with the Onkyo 305 because
a. It was cheap
b. Folks around here seem to trust the Onkyo name

We just upgraded last month to the Onkyo 605 because
a. Upconversion to HDMI was handy for the install we did in the new house. Just have the one cable running to the projector now. (on a side note, it's pretty neat. We have a 5.1 distibution plate and an HDMI wall plate behind the receiver, and speaker/sub plates in the appropriate locations)
b. was the best deal we could find for HDMI upconversion
c. I now have the 305 in my bedroom, replacing the Aiwa bookshelf unit I've had for 15+ years. Now I just need more speakers.
post #19 of 30
Sound Quality

HDMI (3 )inputs

Power

Price

Value

I feel like I stole the 805 from Onkyo. I bought a refurb from them and had it delivered for less than a 606. I got a receiver I have dreamed about this last year for a price I was willing to pay for much less.

I have been an Onkyo fan for years and couldn't be happier with my choice. Making a choice is much easier when you are familiar with a companies "sound".
post #20 of 30
a, 125 wpc is plenty.

c, I like the warmer sound of my Marantz SR8500. Not too "digital" but then it could be my speakers as well.

f, always liked Marantz, 1st receiver was a 2250B.

g,j, with this current receiver I was able to upgrade to component video (just before HDMI came out) and have dts in addition to Dolby Digital with THX, as well as 7.1 speaker capability.


johncogemi I doubt anyone has an RF input in today's receivers. You more than likely will have to buy an outboard demodulator.
post #21 of 30
j. to access lossless audio with one cord. No worries about LFE cuts that are sometimes inherent to the use of m-ch analogs. Also, to matrix hi def bitstreams for 7.1 use.

o. value. Possible chance of sale and upgrade; so re-sale value. There weren't many choices available anyways at the time of my refurbed 805 purchase. Its acting as pre/pro only.
post #22 of 30
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Originally Posted by juancmjr View Post

a, 125 wpc is plenty.

c, I like the warmer sound of my Marantz SR8500. Not too "digital" but then it could be my speakers as well.

f, always liked Marantz, 1st receiver was a 2250B.

g,j, with this current receiver I was able to upgrade to component video (just before HDMI came out) and have dts in addition to Dolby Digital with THX, as well as 7.1 speaker capability.


johncogemi I doubt anyone has an RF input in today's receivers. You more than likely will have to buy an outboard demodulator.

I also have the Marantz sr8500. It really is great sounding and powerful. I have all the latest HD audio formats thru analog and the Denon 3800BD player.

I currently get 720P/1080i thru the DVI connection. My question is: if I upgrade to a 1080P tv, will the DVI from the Marantz sr8500 still work at 1080P??? I saw somewhere where it said 1080P switching would not work on this receiver, but, what about switching from 1080P to 720P and vice versa - would that still work??
post #23 of 30
HDMI and the new audio codecs....Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD MA.....the auto setup with mic just a bonus.
post #24 of 30
Volume Leveling
Firmware Upgrades - Without sending it in
4 HDMI Inputs
Pre Outs

Now that I think about it, I might just wait a couple of years for 1440p. Naaah.
post #25 of 30
A, F, J, O.

VSX-1014tx. But I still don't need to upgrade because I neither have a BR player or HD tv.
post #26 of 30
The letters didn't make sense to me, but here are the reasons I purchased my Denon 4306, in order

1) Audyssey MultEQ XT
2) Above, but with an option to get the "flat" curve
3) Minimal stupid lights, i.e. no idiotic blue LED ring around the volume knob
4) Price
5) Brand snobbery

And here's why I purchased the Panasonic SA-XR55 that I used before it.
1) Energy efficiency
2) Form factor (I wish my current receiver were this small)
3) Cool technology (DAC and amplification in one stage)
4) Price

People who really think there's a "sound quality" difference in these things (room correction software excluded) are really deluding themselves. I placed no premium on evaluating the commodity parts (amplification, switching, etc) for "sound quality," because I would've been wasting my time.
post #27 of 30
Honestly? In no particular order (except alphabetical ):

a f g j l n (gotta do 6)

Whether I would use these same exact criteria if I was buying another today, I don't know. Probably not. But those were the determining factors when I bought my current one.


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Originally Posted by ldgibson76 View Post

So far, after 10 responses, it seems that "(C) Sound quality" is the most important feature.

Sorry, but "c", sound quality, is something I really do not think you can get a handle on at a retailer or even in-home. If at all. I call BS on all you guys who said "c" . Ooo, this receiver sounded so warm. Or smooth. Or articulate. Or dynamic. BS. The room has more of an affect than any of the minuscule SQ differences (if they exist) between any 2 comparable and competent receivers. Not to mention the speakers. Or the music or DVD choice. Or the recording. Comparing receivers at a retailer, in their showroom, with their speakers, is a joke. So is in-home, for that matter. And if 2 receivers you are considering are at 2 different retailers, forget it. Fairly comparing receivers (even if you could) is very difficult, as eliminating all the variables and truly doing a valid A/B comparison is next to impossible. If YOU think it sounds good, then it must sound good, right?

I don't think I even really listened to mine, or any others, before I bought it.
post #28 of 30
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Originally Posted by sivadselim View Post

Sorry, but "c", sound quality, is something I really do not think you can get a handle on at a retailer or even in-home. If at all. I call BS on all you guys who said "c" .

You are exactly right, in that enough is known about how to make a sonically transparent switcher and amplifier to put them solidly in the camp of interchangeable commodities. Though some AVRs do have better tuners than others, so someone who listens to a lot of radio may have a legitimate sound quality argument.

But there's one big exception: good room-correction software calibrated properly can make a positive difference in sonic accuracy in most systems. Even systems that are already well-designed, with thoughtful placement of controlled-directivity speakers and multiple subwoofers, and appropriate acoustic treatment.

Whether or not improved fidelity to the source material makes a system sound better or worse is a matter of personal taste, though I'm always going to err on the side of accuracy.
post #29 of 30
My 5 reasons for buying my Denon AVR-888.
#1- It's a Denon.
#2- Made in Japan
#3- It sounds freakin great.
#4- It was cheap, I only paid $300.
#5- It's a Denon.
post #30 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by sivadselim View Post

Honestly? In no particular order (except alphabetical ):

a f g j l n (gotta do 6)

Whether I would use these same exact criteria if I was buying another today, I don't know. Probably not. But those were the determining factors when I bought my current one.



Sorry, but "c", sound quality, is something I really do not think you can get a handle on at a retailer or even in-home. If at all. I call BS on all you guys who said "c" . Ooo, this receiver sounded so warm. Or smooth. Or articulate. Or dynamic. BS. The room has more of an affect than any of the minuscule SQ differences (if they exist) between any 2 comparable and competent receivers. Not to mention the speakers. Or the music or DVD choice. Or the recording. Comparing receivers at a retailer, in their showroom, with their speakers, is a joke. So is in-home, for that matter. And if 2 receivers you are considering are at 2 different retailers, forget it. Fairly comparing receivers (even if you could) is very difficult, as eliminating all the variables and truly doing a valid A/B comparison is next to impossible. If YOU think it sounds good, then it must sound good, right?

I don't think I even really listened to mine, or any others, before I bought it.

My last receiver was a yamaha h.t.i.b unit and compared to my new Denon it's overall power and sound sucked, the denon clearly blows it away. But yes if you compare two high quality units with similar specs their would not be a noticeable difference.
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