pio 6010 vs. panny th65pz750u

Sacrifice the 5" for the superior picture. 6010 all the way IMO.

6010 = the excalibur of TVs. I am very jealous.

If you need the stand go with the 6010FD. If you don't need the stand go with the 65PZ750U. At the end of the day, my choice is for the 65PZ750U.

Chris

If the 65PZ750U stand could be purchased for about $600, would the 6010FD still be the choice? I'm debating between the 6010FD, 65PZ750U, and SAMSUNG's FP-T6374. It seems like today they are all within about $600, including stand.

Hehehehehe...May I recommend a nice sweet Panasonic 37" Plasma to hook that notebook up to?

I know it's not what you are looking for as a response, but you will have a ton of flexibility tweaking that 37" set off your notebook and can put the monitor anywhere you damn well please.

On topic...the Kuro 60" will destroy that Panasonic, surface area or not...extra 5"'s is nothing by comparison to the ultra delicious look of the Pioneer over the Panasonic...and you get true 1080P unlike Panasonic's inability to resolve 1080i/1080P properly...so you are more future set with the Pio. I watched the 60" with Planet Earth and must say, even from such a short distance, it's really that sick looking...I know people go way over the top about the wow factor in all this, afterall, it's only a bloody tv...but the Pio is simply spectacular.

If you could splurge a little, and could reduce the size of the set just a wee bit, I'd highly recommend the 110FD over any of the "standard" 1080P sets offered by Pioneer. That 110FD has incredible calibrating controls, processing, etc. etc...it's a set that one could live with forever (not that the 60" isn't one that could be lived with forever), but you get the point. OR, you can wait another 6 months as time is always of essence, and get the calibratable (such a word?) 60" version of the 110FD which should be a good price and offer all the calibrating options of the 110FD in a 60" size...yummmmy...oh yeah, and 80% better black levels too!

Good luck with the choice you make, but if it was me, I would either wait for a 9G set OR get the 110FD. If not, wait and see if that 60" set won't come down in price as the 9G's start to come to town...you will likely get a 60" 9G equivalent for what you pay now, in only another 6 months...

you can have a 6010 calibrated. you wont get 2 modes like an elite, but you can totally have it set to d6500

i have one. its calibrated. i love it. the only time i would even consider going to the larger panny would maybe be if i was sitting like 15' away, and at that point the extra size would maybe be worth the drop in PQ?

I decided on the 6010 over the 65pZ750 and don't regret it at all. Recently too, only had the set about 3 weeks, but best decision ever.

I would go see if the 5 inches are worth the PQ sacrifice. IMO the 6010FD is the way to go.

been asked several times. same ole situation. you get better pq with the Pioneer and you get 17% more screen area with the panny and also have to pony up extra $$ for a stand or mount. The panny cannot match the black levels and contrast of the Pioneer. But the panny is a good display and you won't be disappointed with either choice, you will have a big plasma in your place and enjoying it. your money your choice......

i just got a 65 panasonic i went for size it was more important
great pic. i have a pio 5010 in my bedroom . i think the panasonic pic is just as good. i pd $4500 plus $700 for stand. lots of good deals out there now

Where did you get that deal?

check amazon

I just bought my 6010 last night for $4900 from a local authorized dealer. I didn't haggle at all. Saw the $6500 price tag and the guy said it's on sale for $4900 and I jumped. I thought the quality was slightly better then the panny 65" but I don't think you could go wrong with either set. Can wait till delivery on Saturday!!!

congrats enjoy

20% is close enough (it's actually 17.6% more real estate), but I agree with the analysis, especially considering the $3K price drop of the 750.

Also, if you watch a lot of SD DVDs, I would go with 750U. It not only has the bigger screen ... which gives you a more immersive film experience ... it also provides better PQ with SD DVDs, imo.

I own neither, but have experience with both.

It can't be fully calibrated? I'm sure some of the experienced ISF calibrators on this forum would say otherwise.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you...

IMO the 6010 is the superior display, whether you pay for ISF calibration or just tweak it by eye.

If you watched 50% SD and 50 HD via DirectTV would one win out over the other?

If you had a component in/out Mosquito to put in the chain would one win out over the other?

I was referring to SD DVDs. D* is another matter. They broadcast HD lite (bit-starved, overcompressed, damaged signals). Even external VPs can't do much to improve an already damaged signal. Instead of 1920 X 1080i, D* broadcasts somewhere below 1440 X somewhere below 1000i. The cheap D* STB then tries to reconstruct the original 1920X 1080i signal and that's what it sends to the VP... a signal that should be on life suport. Yuck.

If you do not watch many SD DVDs and mostly watch D* (HD + SD), I would probably go with the 6010. The bigger the screen, the worse D* looks.

it could be had for about 350$ if u look

Is there really any question which has the better PQ??
The 6010 flat out beats any panasonic hands down..
I am waiting for the 9th generation Pioneers myself to buy the 6020. At this point in time, IT will be worth the wait I think. The black levels of the 9th generation pioneers will be 80% greater than the 8th Gen. which will make them flat out unbelievable I think. go kuro
The panasonics don't even compare with the 8th gen pioneers, so how much better will the 9th gen pioneers be than the panasonics?
Wait a few months, get the 9th gen 6020 or pro151fd elite. You won't regret it.
But am in the same boat so I know how hard it is to wait. So I got me a 5080 to hold me over until I can get a TV that I will love

Don't let the Pioneer fanboys in this thread convince you the Pioneer is worlds better than the Panny. Compare for yourself and let your own eyes be the judge.

good advice, the best judge and jury is your own eyes.

when it was my turn recently, i narrowed my choices down to the Panasonic 700U and the Pioneer 5080. after spending time with each set, the Kuro was the clear winner to my eyes, particularly in terms of picture quality and to a lesser extent, feature set.

good luck with your decision.

i had the same questions a few weeks ago

but guess which one i bought

Sweet view, dude. Where's that at?

Jason