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post #211 of 700
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I found 2.0 for the A30 at 11:11 AM PST this morning. The ISO's time stamp is the same as the copy I downloaded last night.

Which model firmware did you download?

I just downloaded the update for the A3 about 30 minutes ago, and it was version 2.0
post #212 of 700
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spectra57 View Post

I just checked their website, the 2.0 firmware update has been removed. The 1.3 is now back.

The 2.0 hasn't been removed. Still there.
post #213 of 700
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I'm downloading your A35 1.3 file, but I don't know if it can be used with an A30.



Yes I would also like to know if this file of your will work with my a30 as well since it reads a35 on it. Thanks.
post #214 of 700
Thanks for walking us throught fw downgrade process. I intend to do it the second after this Toshiba Engineer calls. Supposedly and tosh engineer named paul is gonna call me to day and dicuss the problem.

Also, i would ask anyone who posts about 1080/24 output with fw 2.0 to please inlcude which method you used to update. This is really important since intial reports seem to indicate that downloading through the ethernet port and burning an iso are yeilding different results.
post #215 of 700
^^Folks, firmware for the A35 (regardless of which version) IS FOR THE A35 ONLY!!! Use ONLY the firmware for your corresponding Toshiba model, e.g. A3 f/w for A3 player; A30 f/w for A30 player, etc.
post #216 of 700
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Originally Posted by mosman22 View Post

Thanks for walking us throught fw downgrade process. I intend to do it the second after this Toshiba Engineer calls. Supposedly and tosh engineer named paul is gonna call me to day and dicuss the problem.

Also, i would ask anyone who posts about 1080/24 output with fw 2.0 to please inlcude which method you used to update. This is really important since intial reports seem to indicate that downloading through the ethernet port and burning an iso are yeilding different results.

It'll be interesting to hear what they tell you. I've gone back to 1.3 now thanks to Unbiased. I originally used a CD/ISO to update to 2.0 and got the jaggies you described. They have totally gone now I have gone back to 1.3.

It might be worth asking the Tosh guy why Tosh don't allow us to go back a step if we're unhappy with the update. It can't be all that difficult to remove the version checking code, or at least to include code that says "the firmware version you are attempting to install is older than the current version - do you wish to proceed?". Then at least if you had a problem you could go back. To have to hack the code yourself is really stupid of Tosh IMO.

Keith
post #217 of 700
...interesting, I upgraded to Ver 2.0, but appreciate the work you guys have put in to make 1.3 downgrade available should I need it!

I don't own Transformers (for obvious aesthetic reasons), but I did notice a bit of flickering on the PIP box on Children of Men when watching some U-Control stuff, and didn't bothered digging into the issue. I'll have to go through my collection to see what I've got that's actually AVC, and see how big a deal it is with my Kuro.

Thanks on behalf of the (not so silent) majority that look to many of you to help us solve the problems that, unfortunately, many of the CEs seem incapable of making it easy for us to do...
post #218 of 700
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Originally Posted by mosman22 View Post

Thanks for walking us throught fw downgrade process. I intend to do it the second after this Toshiba Engineer calls. Supposedly and tosh engineer named paul is gonna call me to day and dicuss the problem.

Also, i would ask anyone who posts about 1080/24 output with fw 2.0 to please inlcude which method you used to update. This is really important since intial reports seem to indicate that downloading through the ethernet port and burning an iso are yeilding different results.

Updated to v2.0 via downloaded .iso burned to CD-R with Nero 7 (4 steps as opposed to 5, as some have previously reported). I, too, can confirm the presence of severe jaggies on 1080/24p AND 1080/60p with this update and that Transformers (as well as others) is a complete and utter mess now. Before even looking at Chapter 5 (BumbleBee grill and hood), I could immediately see that the rotating Autobot hand on the initial menu/set up screen was jaggied to hell and back. The only benefit I can see with v2.0 is that HBR audio is now vastly improved, stability-wise (locks on like a clamp when skipping chapters). Alas, no way this can even begin to compensate for these monstrous jaggies, so (thanks to Unbiased, a true savior!) I reverted back to v1.3 and all is right in the world again.

Maybe Tosh will finally get these players working to spec prior to making Blu-ray units, as has been rumored? It's one thing to not have a presumed "improvement" function properly (and there's no excuse for that, either), but to issue f/w updates that break what's already fixed and/or working?? I just don't get it.... Anyhoo, I'm staying with v1.3 til they can get their sh*t together. I swear, this is like a bad marriage: You want to get out, but the cost is too great.
post #219 of 700
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Originally Posted by BasicBlak View Post

^^Folks, firmware for the A35 (regardless of which version) IS FOR THE A35 ONLY!!! Use ONLY the firmware for your corresponding Toshiba model, e.g. A3 f/w for A3 player; A30 f/w for A30 player, etc.

Thanks for the valuable information.

Now I need a copy of the A30 1.3 firmware. Does anyone know were I can find it?
post #220 of 700
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

It might be worth asking the Tosh guy why Tosh don't allow us to go back a step if we're unhappy with the update.

It's because you're not supposed to be unhappy with the update. Updates are supposed to fix things, not break them. If Tosh posted how to go to an older FW they would basically be saying they know the new FW is crap, in which case why put it out in the first place?

Their energies would be better spent on putting out better, fully tested upgrades.
post #221 of 700
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Originally Posted by chris0 View Post

It's because you're not supposed to be unhappy with the update. Updates are supposed to fix things, not break them. If Tosh posted how to go to an older FW they would basically be saying they know the new FW is crap, in which case why put it out in the first place?

Their energies would be better spent on putting out better, fully tested upgrades.

There are various reasons why someone might want to go back a version - not just because the update is 'crap'. It's called consumer choice.

Keith
post #222 of 700
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I have a Toshiba A30 with it's original firmware (1.1 I think).

Your hacked 1.3 version is labeled as A35 firmware. Even though Toshiba uses separate download options for the A30 and the A35 I suspect that they are the same. Is that the case?

Last night late I downloaded HD-A30-2000U.zip from Toshiba before I found this thread. I haven't installed it, but I assume that it's the version 2.0 firmware.

Someone posted a little while ago that version 2.0 had been taken down and replaced with version 1.3 by Toshiba this morning. At 11:11 AM PST I downloaded the firmware from Toshiba again. It seems to be exactly the same one I downloaded last night. At least the byte count of the zip file is the same.

There may be some confusion at Toshiba.

I'm positive that I'm confussed.

Glad to help out y'all!
htwaits, No the firmwares are not exactly the same between the A3x models!
The A30 firmware is slightly different than the A35 firmware and the filesizes are not the same. I would not try to load A35 firmware on a A30 if it allows you to! It probably would not accept the A35 firmware disc in the A30 and would just reject or show an error message. But I would not load it on an A30. You need a firmware V1.3 for the A30 modified to load from after a V2.0 install. I can try to update an A30 V1.3 to reload if you want.
post #223 of 700
Who has updated to 2.0v using Ethernet and does not have the "Jaggies"?
post #224 of 700
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Originally Posted by Hd9945 View Post

Yes I would also like to know if this file of your will work with my a30 as well since it reads a35 on it. Thanks.

No, do not load the A35 firmware on the A30. I don't think it would allow you to anyway but in case it does allow you to, I would not do it.

Wait a little bit while I provide a download link to the A30 owners to back level their A30 from V2.0 back to V1.3. I am uploading the modified A30 firmware V1.3 reloader version now. Sit tight.

Update: Here is a link to download the modified Toshiba HD-A30 firemware V1.3 which can be reloaded after a V2.0 installed.
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/8d9b5c5e55_38.63MB

Disclaimer: Again you use this at your own risk. You botch the install, you're on your own doing!
post #225 of 700
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Originally Posted by unbiased View Post

Glad to help out y'all!
htwaits, No the firmwares are not exactly the same between the A3x models!
The A30 firmware is slightly different than the A35 firmware and the filesizes are not the same. I would not try to load A35 firmware on a A30 if it allows you to! It probably would not accept the A35 firmware disc in the A30 and would just reject or show an error message. But I would not load it on an A30. You need a firmware V1.3 for the A30 modified to load from after a V2.0 install. I can try to update an A30 V1.3 to reload if you want.

Please do!
post #226 of 700
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Originally Posted by unbiased View Post

You need a firmware V1.3 for the A30 modified to load from after a V2.0 install. I can try to update an A30 V1.3 to reload if you want.

Thanks for the help. I still have V1.1 so all I need is the original A30 V1.3.

I also need the original A3 V1.3 for my son. It's my fault he bought it in December.

Thanks for the help.
post #227 of 700
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Thanks for the help. I still have V1.1 so all I need is the original A30 V1.3.

I also need the original A3 V1.3 for my son. It's my fault he bought it in December.

Thanks for the help.

You should still be able to use the modified A30 firmware V1.3 provided at the download link as it is still a higher version number than your V1.1 (and I believe it should load). The firmware V1.3 is the exact same as if you load the original unmodified V1.3 !!!:

Download for the Toshiba A30 firmware V1.3 reloader version is here:

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/8d9b5c5e55_38.63MB

I have also now the modified Toshiba A3 firmware V1.3 reloader version.
Download for the A3 firmware is here:

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/ebe39354a7_38.6MB
post #228 of 700
thanks a bunch !
post #229 of 700
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Originally Posted by mosman22 View Post

Thanks for walking us throught fw downgrade process. I intend to do it the second after this Toshiba Engineer calls. Supposedly and tosh engineer named paul is gonna call me to day and dicuss the problem.

Also, i would ask anyone who posts about 1080/24 output with fw 2.0 to please inlcude which method you used to update. This is really important since intial reports seem to indicate that downloading through the ethernet port and burning an iso are yeilding different results.

I guess i'm one of the lucky ones, just no issues but i burnt the file to a cd. think theres something to this train of thought.
post #230 of 700
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Originally Posted by mosman22 View Post

Thanks for walking us throught fw downgrade process. I intend to do it the second after this Toshiba Engineer calls. Supposedly and tosh engineer named paul is gonna call me to day and dicuss the problem.

Also, i would ask anyone who posts about 1080/24 output with fw 2.0 to please inlcude which method you used to update. This is really important since intial reports seem to indicate that downloading through the ethernet port and burning an iso are yeilding different results.

When I orginally updated to V2.0 from V1.3 it had 4/4 steps via ethenet download install method.
Today after re-installing V2.0 from the CD ISO image (after I downgraded back to firmware V1.3) the CD method also showed 4/4 steps. Did not have 5 steps.

I don't know if the report of 5 steps was accurate or not.
post #231 of 700
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

There are various reasons why someone might want to go back a version - not just because the update is 'crap'. It's called consumer choice.

Keith

Upgrading FW is a tricky thing, even under the best conditions for tech-savvy people. It's easy to brick any unit, as reported a page or two ago. The general population can probably do more harm than good by unnecessarily mucking w/FW. I'm not at all giving Tosh a pass on troubled FW, just saying it could be bad news going forward, forget going back...
post #232 of 700
Cheers! unbiased,

You saved yet another from the dreadful jaggies!!!

Thank you for the modified 1.3v file.
post #233 of 700
+1
another happy jaggy-free customer
post #234 of 700
anyone know if Toshiba will issue another FW update to fix this jaggie mess? i just purchased the a35 and could probably still return it, not sure though since i already cut out the upc label for my free movies. at first i didnt notice anything until i did a comparison with chapter 8 of transformers in 1080i and 1080/24p, 1080i def looks smoother. i dont mind keeping this unit since i have quite a bit of hddvd's already but it would be nice if they fix this
post #235 of 700
Unbaised

Do you happen to have the modified A35 V1.3 file as I have done FW2.0 and its a big jaggy mess now?

Many Thanks
post #236 of 700
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Originally Posted by DexS View Post

Unbaised

Do you happen to have the modified A35 V1.3 file as I have done FW2.0 and its a big jaggy mess now?

Many Thanks

Why not just download from the link referenced many times in this thread?

Edit: Go here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=180
post #237 of 700
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Originally Posted by unbiased View Post

No, do not load the A35 firmware on the A30. I don't think it would allow you to anyway but in case it does allow you to, I would not do it.

Wait a little bit while I provide a download link to the A30 owners to back level their A30 from V2.0 back to V1.3. I am uploading the modified A30 firmware V1.3 reloader version now. Sit tight.

Update: Here is a link to download the modified Toshiba HD-A30 firemware V1.3 which can be reloaded after a V2.0 installed.
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/8d9b5c5e55_38.63MB

Disclaimer: Again you use this at your own risk. You botch the install, you're on your own doing!

To bad someone cant do this same thing so we can go back to version 2.7 on the XA-2!
post #238 of 700
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Originally Posted by steviec View Post

To bad someone cant do this same thing so we can go back to version 2.7 on the XA-2!

Huh? I thought they were doing that over at the Toshiba A2x threads. If not I could make an update and put it up for y'all XA2 owners.
post #239 of 700
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Originally Posted by steviec View Post

To bad someone cant do this same thing so we can go back to version 2.7 on the XA-2!

Here you go. I put it in the A2/A20/XA2 firmware thread since this is the A3x thread. Go here to get the XA2 firmware V2.7 reload mod download:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post13125324
post #240 of 700
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

I have uploaded the original ver 1.3 Toshiba firmware for the A35 player to the following site. Note that if you have already upgraded to ver 2.0 you need Unbiased's crack of the 1.3 firmware or the version checking will prevent you from reverting back to 1.3. THIS FILE IS THE ORIGINAL ver 1.3 FOR USERS WHO WANT TO UPDATE FROM 1.1.

As always, use at your own discretion. If you brick your player, I don't want to know. (Although it was downloaded from Toshiba originally and hasn't been tampered with).

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/137f101fa1_38.64MB

Keith

Thanks, Keith.

I'm about to download the file now, but I haven't decided on updating the fw yet. I live in Norway and if I brick the player it will be a lot of trouble returning it to the US (not sure if Toshiba in Norway will be very interested in helping). Maybe I just have to live with a few lock-up's....

Ola
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