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Noobie Question about WHY to upgrade

post #1 of 4
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I've had my home theater for almost 9 years so I'm not really a noob on HT, but I am when it comes to subs. While I'm on my third projector and have upgraded both my recvr and DVD (to BluRay) recently, I've kept the same speakers: MLs, which sound great and I have no interest in changing, and a relatively small, 10' 85 watt Velodyne sub.

I'm trying to understand the benefits of upgrading the sub. I was watching a movie last night and while I find the bass a bit boomy at times it does a nice job hitting lows. What confuses me is that if I calibrate my speakers, using something like Audessey or Avia, wouldn't I end up with the same end result on the sub? I would like a little more slam with the explosions, et al, but how do you get that if you're calibrating different subs to the same, presumably "correct", level?

And are the tonal qualities of subs that different? Certainly they are with mains, centers and surrounds; but having never really auditioned subs, I don't know.

I'm sure these sound like dumb questions but please bear with me. In particular, I'm trying to understand the relationship between calibration and higher SPL levels with 'better' subs. Do you just naturally run more powerful subs a little hot?

thanks!
post #2 of 4
Boomy can be a desireable trait on subs for HT use. Subs sound more different from each other than many like to admit. Subs also sound the same more than many care to admit as well. How's that for a catch 22 phrase?

In my opinion if your current sub solution is meeting your demand? I would leave it.

If you want a better sounding sub? The are out there, but the difference is way more dramatic in music than HT use.

The other reason to upgrade? Well these days infrasonics are much more prevelant in movie LFE tracks. So a good sub with strong output at 14hz or even lower is much desired, where as 20hz used to be the low end bar.

PS: I tend to run my subs 4db hotter than calibrated.
post #3 of 4
I'll take a stab at being helpful...

For one thing, if you're a fan of action/sci-fi movies, there can bit quite a bit of low end material that a smaller sub just can't deliver. So, you might count that as reason one to upgrade.

Also, on the calibration issue...I think it's more an issue of whether or not you have the headroom to deliver a peak of "x" SPL at a given frequency. But you're right...the goal (IMO) is to get as flat a FR as possible, BUT you also want to have the ability to cleanly deliver peaks well above reference level (usually 75-85dB).


Scott
post #4 of 4
The best way to determine whether you need to upgrade is to listen to a system with a really good sub that is integrated and calibrated properly. If you then go home and your system sounds comparatively like crap, you need to upgrade.
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