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post #31 of 107
9/18/08 at 3:02pm
Isn't the Xbox HDMI cable a little strange? I am about to buy an Elite, and I noticed that the cable was not like a standard HDMI cable. Could this be causing problems? I plan to go to my AVR then to my TV from there.
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post #32 of 107
9/18/08 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by BaronVH View Post

Isn't the Xbox HDMI cable a little strange? I am about to buy an Elite, and I noticed that the cable was not like a standard HDMI cable. Could this be causing problems? I plan to go to my AVR then to my TV from there.

What exactly looks different? In fact, the Xbox HDMI cable is a run of the mill cable. Not the best, not the worst. There's nothing unusual.

P.J.
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post #33 of 107
9/18/08 at 7:46pm
I get the same problem with the audio from time to time. My AVR (Onkyo HT-s6100) either comes up displaying "Dolby Digital" or "PCM" with a listening mode of "Dolby Pro Logic IIx Movie"

I have a monoprice HDMI cable from the Elite to the receiver, then the HDMI cable (Elite version) to the TV for video.

I have yet to experiment using the optical adapter and the HDMI together. Anyone try this?
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post #34 of 107
9/19/08 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by forcedfedgtp View Post

I get the same problem with the audio from time to time. My AVR (Onkyo HT-s6100) either comes up displaying "Dolby Digital" or "PCM" with a listening mode of "Dolby Pro Logic IIx Movie"

I have a monoprice HDMI cable from the Elite to the receiver, then the HDMI cable (Elite version) to the TV for video.

I have yet to experiment using the optical adapter and the HDMI together. Anyone try this?

Yes, plenty of folks including myself use Toslink optical for audio, along with HDMI for video. It works perfectly and I've never had any issue, nor have I heard of anyone else having an issue with not getting 5.1 dolby digital due to power up sequencing when using optical for audio. You do have to use the Microsoft dongle to get optical and HDMI at the same time, since the normal component HDTV cable with Toslink, cannot physically coexist with the HDMI cable connected, unless you modify the connector housing.

P.J.
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post #35 of 107
10/8/08 at 10:49pm
I am having this issue as well. I'm using an Xbox360 Pro with an HDMI cable into my Denon AVR-2809ci. Never had this problem before when I was running the component+optical into my Denon, so it's definitely an HDMI issue on the Xbox end.

Good job Microsoft.
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post #36 of 107
11/19/08 at 11:33am
Ok so I have an X-box 360 Elite which was working fine up until earlier when I took it online for the first time. It has updated my console since then I am unable to get sound through my HDMI cable also I notice I can no longer select 1080i ... 1080p ... 720p etc... from the display tab I can only select resolutions. 640x480 etc...

Changing the sound settings rebooting does not seem to work for me.

Anyone have any other ideas or the getting same problem?
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post #37 of 107
11/19/08 at 12:06pm
I have this problem also. My current workaround is to put in a movie that outputs DD and the AVR (Yamaha RXV 663) recognizes it and leaves it at DD even after I've removed it and put the game in. I have the audio dongle and will probably end up using the optical output but I really wanted to use the all in one cable option. It's kind of frustrating to have a $400 piece of equipment that doesn't do something this simple.
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post #38 of 107
12/2/08 at 1:49pm
I have yet another variation of this issue. Like the OP I have the monoprice 401e HDMI switcher, into which goes my Elite, PS3 and HD DVD player. The Elite specific issue is the OPPOSITE (kinda) of what you are all having - when I need the AVR (Yamaha RX-V2600) to switch FROM 5.1 to 2 channel it does not.

It's as if the Elite's signal to the AVR to switch decoders is screwed up, and what I get when I go to, say, Netflix, or Inside Xbox, I get a screeching high decibel whine from all speakers. Softly under it I get the content, but it takes about 30sec before the screech dies. My fix for this is to switch inputs on the AVR as soon as the 2chan. content starts and switch back...Amazingly the AVR switches to the correct decode mode instantly. I have bypassed the switcher and get the same results, however, running the HDMI directly into my TV (Sony SXRD XBR1) yields correct behavior.

I also have had on 2 occasions audio drop out completely during GoW2. I had to restart the console to get any audio back, even in the dashboard.

Anyone else have a similar set-up and/or issues?
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post #39 of 107
12/2/08 at 4:53pm
My Elite Xbox 360 was connected via HDMI to my Yamaha 663 AVR...from there HDMI out to DVI Acer monitor...but I was not getting any sound from the receiver. I am going to see if there is a way to set the audio output on the AVR...weird. Good place to find possible solutions.
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post #40 of 107
12/7/08 at 5:41pm
i fixed my yamaha 663 surround issue. in the yamaha menu you need to select the manual settings then the options menu(5). from there select (e) hdmi set and change the s. audio parameter to rx-v 663. great forum. thanks for all the help. -B
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post #41 of 107
12/8/08 at 1:12am
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Originally Posted by bigbrain28 View Post


I also have had on 2 occasions audio drop out completely during GoW2. I had to restart the console to get any audio back, even in the dashboard.

Anyone else have a similar set-up and/or issues?

I have an elite connect to a Pioneer 917 which cannot pull the audio from HDMI so I have an optical cable connected. I had a few sound issues with GOW2. I don't think it is the HDMI I think it is a bug in the game. I didn't loose full sound I lost a range of sound. Almost all sound was gone except for I think the noise for when you took cover if I recall. It has been a few weeks since it happened.
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post #42 of 107
12/8/08 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by switch42 View Post

I have an elite connect to a Pioneer 917 which cannot pull the audio from HDMI so I have an optical cable connected. I had a few sound issues with GOW2. I don't think it is the HDMI I think it is a bug in the game. I didn't loose full sound I lost a range of sound. Almost all sound was gone except for I think the noise for when you took cover if I recall. It has been a few weeks since it happened.

Dumb question (well, lazy I should say) Do I need to purchase an additional dongle to add SPDIF to my HDMI, or was that included in the elite? I might just avoid the sound issues and switch to the HDMI & TOSLINK set-up.
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post #43 of 107
12/10/08 at 3:31pm
The Elite includes the dongle required to get optical out along with HDMi out. At least the three Elites i have came with one.

I know on one of my boxes I lost audio initially after the NXE install. But I just rebooted all my devices and everything came back up as it should have been with DD 5.1 coming over tthe HDMi connection.
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post #44 of 107
12/11/08 at 3:22pm
i'm having a somewhat related issue with my 360 Pro and a new Onkyo 606 receiver. i thought about starting a new thread, but figured starting here might be a better approach.

My setup is as follows:
360 -> TV via HDMI (i have my TV set to PC for the xbox and don't want to use the receiver to switch video for it);
360 -> receiver via optical cable (I popped the plastic casing off the component cables that came w/the 360 that has the optical connection built into it so that I have enough room to plug both HDMI and the component cables into the 360).

The receiver displays Dolby Digital and I'm getting 5.1 sound, but I noticed when playing Rock Band 2 that the sound is completely different than what it was with my old JVC receiver, which the 360 was connected to in exactly the same way. the vocals are way down in the mix - almost inaudible, and the instruments seem out of balance with each other (ie, the guitar is really, really loud compared to the rest). crowd noise and sound effects (going into overdrive, gaining energy combos, etc.) was incredibly loud - almost to the point of drowning everything else out.

i double checked the 360's audio settings to confirm the dashboard update didn't change anything, and i've played around with the settings in Rock Band 2 as well (and made sure Dolby Digital was selected in the audio menu).

the only other game i've played since i got the 606 is World at War - i hadn't played it with my old receiver, so i didn't notice anything being too out of the ordinary, although i did notice that the dialog from the center channel seemed awfully low.

all my other components (Toshiba HD DVD via HDMI, cable box via HDMI, record player and ipod via RCA) sound great... everything is balanced; dialog from the center channel is perfectly audible and clear. i ran Audyssey on the initial setup of the receiver and am totally happy with the settings it came up with.

has anybody had a similar experience with a 360 and a 606 (or 605 or other Onkyo receiver)? any thoughts?
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post #45 of 107
12/11/08 at 4:01pm
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Originally Posted by aleywwu View Post

i'm having a somewhat related issue with my 360 Pro and a new Onkyo 606 receiver. i thought about starting a new thread, but figured starting here might be a better approach.

My setup is as follows:
360 -> TV via HDMI (i have my TV set to PC for the xbox and don't want to use the receiver to switch video for it);
360 -> receiver via optical cable (I popped the plastic casing off the component cables that came w/the 360 that has the optical connection built into it so that I have enough room to plug both HDMI and the component cables into the 360).

The receiver displays Dolby Digital and I'm getting 5.1 sound, but I noticed when playing Rock Band 2 that the sound is completely different than what it was with my old JVC receiver, which the 360 was connected to in exactly the same way. the vocals are way down in the mix - almost inaudible, and the instruments seem out of balance with each other (ie, the guitar is really, really loud compared to the rest). crowd noise and sound effects (going into overdrive, gaining energy combos, etc.) was incredibly loud - almost to the point of drowning everything else out.

i double checked the 360's audio settings to confirm the dashboard update didn't change anything, and i've played around with the settings in Rock Band 2 as well (and made sure Dolby Digital was selected in the audio menu).

the only other game i've played since i got the 606 is World at War - i hadn't played it with my old receiver, so i didn't notice anything being too out of the ordinary, although i did notice that the dialog from the center channel seemed awfully low.

all my other components (Toshiba HD DVD via HDMI, cable box via HDMI, record player and ipod via RCA) sound great... everything is balanced; dialog from the center channel is perfectly audible and clear. i ran Audyssey on the initial setup of the receiver and am totally happy with the settings it came up with.

has anybody had a similar experience with a 360 and a 606 (or 605 or other Onkyo receiver)? any thoughts?

Due to timing issues the rhythm games like Rock Band and Guitar Hero are 2 channel by default. If you want 5.1 in thos games you have to go into the game settings and activate 5.1. If after you do this you experience lag or your timing (strum/tap) does not = onscreen then go back into settings and use the timing calibrator.

If you've already done this and are simply having a 'levels' issue then double check the manual for how to access the per-instrument level settings. For instance for vocals you can hit (I think) right bumper to bring up some settings, I assume each instrument has it's own level settings accessible right in game play.
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post #46 of 107
12/18/08 at 5:40pm
Has anyone been able to get 5.1 from Netflix streaming?

I'm using a non-Elite HDMI 360. Get 360 from dashboard and games no problem. Just not from movies. Can't figure out if this is by design or not.
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post #47 of 107
12/18/08 at 6:59pm
There is no 5.1 from Netflix streaming. Just stereo. This is normal.
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post #48 of 107
12/18/08 at 7:41pm
OK thanks.
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post #49 of 107
12/18/08 at 10:40pm
I have a Sony STRDG 820 reciever and my Xbox is running through a monoprice HDMI cable. When I turn on my Xbox and get to the main screen I will get 5.1 DD but no bass from the sub. This will also happen on Live arcade games that support 5.1 and I will have no bass output to the sub. If I switch to 2.1 I will get bass but not with 5.1 for some reason. If I play a actual 360 game, it will output 5.1 perfectly with sub and all. Im hoping that when MS releases a new patch to fix the Live experience issues my problems will go away but im not counting on it.
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post #50 of 107
12/24/08 at 4:53pm
Why do I keep hearing that the 360 dosen't support 5.1 audio over HDMI? Any care to comment on that please?
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post #51 of 107
12/25/08 at 6:21am
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Originally Posted by JamesDax View Post

Why do I keep hearing that the 360 dosen't support 5.1 audio over HDMI? Any care to comment on that please?

I dunno, because it's complete B.S. While its true some of us have ISSUES, if you look here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937899?sd=xbox

Basic functions
The HDMI cable carries both video of up to 1080p resolution and Dolby Digital 5.1 audio over one cable. The cable can be daisy-chained. You can connect the cable to other HDMI-compliant devices such as an audio decoder, which is then plugged into the HDTV display. You can also plug the cable directly into the display.

When you use HDMI, you should not have to set your Xbox 360 dashboard resolution to your HDTV display's optimal resolution. The console detects the display's optimal resolution over the HDMI cable and adjusts the resolution automatically.

You'll see it is officially supported. The problem is, that with most M$ products it just doesn't work correctly for everyone and their particular set-ups. We are all waiting on a patch, I guess.
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post #52 of 107
12/25/08 at 9:17am
I had a problem with a first gen Elite where it wouldn't send the 5.1 over HDMI. But when I got a 2nd gen Elite it had no problems sending 5.1 over HDMI. Nor does my Arcade and premium version have any problems sending 5.1 over HDMI.
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post #53 of 107
12/30/08 at 8:28am
just to add my name to the hat here my XBOX 360 (it is the Halo edition one with HDMI) does not want to pass Dolby Digital

My HDTV set supports Dolby Digital alone and should show up as dolby digital but does not. In addition going HDMI in to the HDTV, then coaxial digital out to my receiver I do not get dolby digital

This works fine with my HTPC and my PS3. the PS3 also will pass DTS which my TV doesnt know what to do with it but it ends up at my receiver just fine.

so far the only time I have been able to hear Dolby Digital from my Xbox 360 is to use optical straight to my receiver , it wouldn;t be ushc a big deal if I could turn off HDMI audio all together as then I can set the reciever to auto change to whatever input has sound on it. Then when I swithc to the 360 on my TV it would swithc to the 360 on the reciever, and when i switch back to my HTPC or PS3 and it senses the audio on that input it would change back.
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post #54 of 107
1/9/09 at 1:39pm
I have had my 360 for about 2 months now and I just connected it online wirelessly a few days ago. I got a new dashboard raight away, and I had one update. After the update I no longer had any audio on the new dashboard welcome video whereas before I did. I downloded a game preview and no audio as well. If I play MoH I have all audio. It seems to be a video issue. I am connected via hdmi to a HK reciever and then hdmi to tv. Any ideas out there?
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post #55 of 107
1/25/09 at 7:35am
I have a 1st gen Xbox 360 Elite. I've begun to notice Hdmi issues as well.
My Yamaha 863 will occasionally pick up the 5.1 signal. I am also getting some weird red bars that flash horizontally across the screen, and if I am in a dark spot in a game I'll get red "scatters." I've used the different HDMI inputs along with different Hdmi cable and still get the same effects. Which leads me to believe it is another 360 problem.

What irritates me the most is you can't find any issues posted on the support website. Unless I'm not looking in the right spot.

Is anyone else having the visual problems along with the audio?
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post #56 of 107
1/26/09 at 10:32am
I had a first gen Elite which is now at my parents house.
I've got a new Pro with HDMI and HDMI and 5.1 were working fine with my Yahama reciver, then It just stopped working.

easy solution: OPTICAL/TOSLINK
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post #57 of 107
1/26/09 at 1:45pm
I understand that I could use the optical output. But why should I have to? Can't MS get the damn thing to work correctly!
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post #58 of 107
1/26/09 at 4:12pm
jumbo, have you tried skipping the avr and connecting directly to the TV to see if you get the red effect?
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post #59 of 107
1/26/09 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by jumboshrimp1837 View Post

I understand that I could use the optical output. But why should I have to? Can't MS get the damn thing to work correctly!

I completly agree......
So you can complain and moan and send ms letters and keep being mad it doesn't work
or
run a optical cable and wait for microsoft to fix it.
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post #60 of 107
2/15/09 at 2:14pm
I have the same probelm, 360 Elite and Denon 2808.

The only 2 things that work is to set the tv to hdmi and the avr to the hdmi for the 360 and then turning on the 360, or flipping from stereo to dolby on the 360 settings when you alreday got 360 running.

There seems to be small problems with HDMI, my Panasonic BD35 keeps changing reslolution if i dont power up my system in the right way.

I thougt HDMI would be great.
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