Originally Posted by twitch54
One can argue the sonic merits and virtues all they want, even and odd order distortions, etc, etc. but to 'carte blanche' dismiss tube amps for the reasons you give is absurd !
Actually it is not absurd and, unlike your argument, is based on scientific testing rather than on beliefs and biases. I've owned products by ARC, Cary and others. The ARC, was clean enough to compete with a solid state amp in terms of "transparency" - a term you would understand. However it was ten times the price of the comparable solid state amp. None of the others were comparable either in measurement or sound quality.
I've owned tube amps that can deliver 150 wpc with 8 KT88's per side and that cost in excess of $8000. I've been in the business of selling vacuum tubes. I've written articles on tube amplification for audio publications. Calling my comments absurd is, in fact, ignorant.
Which of your over-$8000 tube amps compete favorably with a $500 solid state amp? By favorably I mean which ones exhibit a flat frequency response with inaudible distortion and a noise floor at least 80 db below the signal? If they don't they are "colored." That's another audiophile term just like "transparency." I'm trying communicate as colloquially as I can.
Now, is there something about horn loaded speakers that makes them sound better with tube amps? Nothing in the base of common audio knowledge would support that opinion. That makes it opinion and nothing more. It is written as a statement of fact but, in fact, it isn't.
Sorry, I took the comments personally. I shouldn't have done that. My bad. I apologize for finishing an argument I didn't start. My intent was to answer questions. Sorry the folks didn't like the answers. Obviously, I'm not welcome in this thread so I'll go away. Best luck to the OP in his quest.