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post #151 of 3803
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Originally Posted by donb1948 View Post

Updated my 4308ci to FW ver. 1.69 earlier this morning using a temporary wired network connection (50 ft. cat 5e cable running from the den to the living room). The update process went without a hitch, taking about 45 minutes. The update process did not reset my settings to factory default. On testing after the update, I found that I could no longer access either my music server (WMP) [server error ] or internet radio (no station llist). Cycling the unit via the main on/off switch did not help. The problem was solved by forcing the unit re-establish a connection to my network. I accomplished this by turning off DHCP (manuallly put in a new IP address, but none of the other info) then going back to the setup menu and using the "Network Setup" option. The unit then asked whether to search for a connection or set up one manually. I selected search and everything went OK from there. When I tried the "Network Setup" option without first turning off DHCP, the unit would only give info on the "current" connection and not give an option to look for a network with which to establish a connection. There must be another way, besides turning off DHCP, to force the unit to look for a new connection, but I do not know what it is.

Did you try 'search' before turning DHCP off and then on?

Edit: I read your updated report closely and see what you needed to do.
post #152 of 3803
have been trying to update my 4308 ci reciever since i got it last year. still using the orginal realase. I tryed 3 diffeent internet providers none of them worked and yes i did the reset thing up and down arrow and power switch.

am using verizon online dsl 3meg down 784 up but am having trouble connection the the firmware server also am using westell 6100 modem and a linksysG v.5 with latest firmware 2.04.

i also tryed the modem by itself but it didnt work. I live in the LA area. is there any service that will do the update for me. i keep getting the same error connection failed also the internet radio works fine but the firmware update doesnt work which How can i get it to work!!!!!!!
post #153 of 3803
No. As indicated in my initial post, the "Search" option was not available under the "Network Setup" menu selection before I shut off DHCP.
post #154 of 3803
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Originally Posted by donb1948 View Post

No. As indicated in my initial post, the "Search" option was not available under the "Network Setup" menu selection before I shut off DHCP.

I read your updated comments. Thanks! I noted this in consolidated first post.
post #155 of 3803
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Originally Posted by godboy View Post

have been trying to update my 4308 ci reciever since i got it last year. still using the orginal realase. I tryed 3 diffeent internet providers none of them worked and yes i did the reset thing up and down arrow and power switch.

am using verizon online dsl 3meg down 784 up but am having trouble connection the the firmware server also am using westell 6100 modem and a linksysG v.5 with latest firmware 2.04.

i also tryed the modem by itself but it didnt work. I live in the LA area. is there any service that will do the update for me. i keep getting the same error connection failed also the internet radio works fine but the firmware update doesnt work which How can i get it to work!!!!!!!

Review first post of this thread and others experience. You might also try review of this dialog with DavidR2:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post13198555
post #156 of 3803
I did that it didnt work
post #157 of 3803
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I did that it didnt work

Unit may need repaired. You might contact the dealer and see if they can resolve.

There are times the Denon update server is down.
post #158 of 3803
any chance you can add the 5308 to this thread as well? or is there already a parallel string? i searched, but didn't see one.
post #159 of 3803
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any chance you can add the 5308 to this thread as well? or is there already a parallel string? i searched, but didn't see one.

I am no longer able to change the thread title. I'll check with the forum moderator.
post #160 of 3803
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I am no longer able to change the thread title. I'll check with the forum moderator.

thanks!

p.s. i'm trying to pull the current versions on my 5308 post upgrade, but the process listed for the 4308 doesn't seem to be working?
post #161 of 3803
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Originally Posted by drick View Post

thanks!

p.s. i'm trying to pull the current versions on my 5308 post upgrade, but the process listed for the 4308 doesn't seem to be working?

5308 is different

Check users manual page 41 for update procedure:

http://usa.denon.com/AVR-5308CI-OM-E_003.pdf

I suspect the 5308 doesn't require this procedure listed for the 3808/4308 due to it's later release and running more current firmware.
post #162 of 3803
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Originally Posted by drick View Post

thanks!

p.s. i'm trying to pull the current versions on my 5308 post upgrade, but the process listed for the 4308 doesn't seem to be working?

For the 5308 hold Dimmer and Status while turning on the power. Then, like the others, press Status to view the firmware versions. Mine's running 1.05.
post #163 of 3803
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Originally Posted by dem View Post

For the 5308 hold Dimmer and Status while turning on the power. Then, like the others, press Status to view the firmware versions. Mine's running 1.05.

If you want post your firmware module revision #'s and weather you are running the latest update for the 5308 and I will start listing in my first post detail for the 5308.
post #164 of 3803
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Originally Posted by dem View Post

For the 5308 hold Dimmer and Status while turning on the power. Then, like the others, press Status to view the firmware versions. Mine's running 1.05.

got it, thanks!

i have:

fw 1.05
sub 0.52
rom 1.06
pld 0.25
dsp1 36.56
dsp2 37.14
dsp3 38.10
post #165 of 3803
Ok, I never could get the Firmware ver. to come up. I started at ver. 1.57 and just updated to 1.69. I've turned off master power, held RTN and STAT buttons down and turned master power on. Nothing. Held them down and turned lighted power button on, wont turn on/green. I think I recall someone saying use the remote to do it if your after 1.57 but I can't recall what exactly was said. What am I doing wrong.

The update to 1.69 went smooth as silk. No master resetting or reconfiguring.
post #166 of 3803
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Originally Posted by electronleaker View Post

Ok, I never could get the Firmware ver. to come up. I started at ver. 1.57 and just updated to 1.69. I've turned off master power, held RTN and STAT buttons down and turned master power on. Nothing. Held them down and turned lighted power button on, wont turn on/green. I think I recall someone saying use the remote to do it if your after 1.57 but I can't recall what exactly was said. What am I doing wrong.

The update to 1.69 went smooth as silk. No master resetting or reconfiguring.

hold rtn and stat buttons down and turn on using small power button, then release and turn the receiver on using big power button, then use status button to display firmware module versions. Just did it on my 3808 running 1.69 firmware.
post #167 of 3803
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Originally Posted by captavs View Post

hold rtn and stat buttons down and turn on using small power button, then release and turn the receiver on using big power button, then use status button to display firmware module versions. Just did it on my 3808 running 1.69 firmware.

Thanks Captavs, worked like a charm. I never saw the secondary power on part of it anywhere. You may want to post that in your first thread. Also, you can add me as a another updater with no problems. Firmware matches the first post.
post #168 of 3803
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Originally Posted by electronleaker View Post

Thanks Captavs, worked like a charm. I never saw the secondary power on part of it anywhere. You may want to post that in your first thread. Also, you can add me as a another updater with no problems. Firmware matches the first post.

Next update I will do that! Good to hear the update worked.
post #169 of 3803
Did the 4308 firmware update this morning. Prior to starting update, turned "power saving" off under network setup, left IP config in DHCP. Used wired connection to Belkin wireless router interfaced to Roadrunner broadband cable modem.
Only one hitch in the process: When the unit got to the point where the front panel display indicated...

Sflash Firm 30min
Updating

...it froze there. I waited about 15 minutes to see if progress would pick back up - it didn't. Although the network was not down (could still get on line from any computer in the house, including wireless access) I turned the receiver off and patched the receiver directly into the cable modem (bypassing router). Powered up receiver using master on/off switch. Unit automatically tried to complete update process upon being powered on but would not connect to network - FL Display indicated "Connection Failed".
After the failed "direct-connect" attempt, I re-connected the receiver to the wireless router and power-cycled receiver using the master on/off switch. The update picked back up at "Sflash Firm 32 min" and completed successfully just over a half-hour later without further incident or intervention.

Previous settings retained.

Hindsight leads me to believe I may have only needed to power-cycle the receiver after the first lockup to complete the update successfully.
post #170 of 3803
Updating my 3808 it got stuck at:
ETHER WP 01Min
Updating...

After waiting for almost 5 hours, I unplugged the unit and plugged it back in. The unit came up and automatically tried to retry the update continuing where it left off with Ether WP. It was successful without problems this time and the unit came up with all previous settings intact.

I don't know if this effected it or not but before I unplugged it, (based on reading done here) I disabled upnp in my router.
post #171 of 3803
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Originally Posted by TheMoose View Post

Click on setup menu & you'll see,

SETUP MENU
SOURCE SELECT
SURROUND MODE
PARAMETER
AUTO SETUP
MANUAL SETUP
INFOMATION
SAVE
LOAD

LOL, I just noticed they mispelled Information on that page!

thx, when I wrote that post 4308's fw was the initial version, but finally yesterday I updated it to last version 1.69 and now setup menu is right as you wrote
post #172 of 3803
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Updating my 3808 it got stuck at:
ETHER WP 01Min
Updating...

After waiting for almost 5 hours, I unplugged the unit and plugged it back in. The unit came up and automatically tried to retry the update continuing where it left off with Ether WP. It was successful without problems this time and the unit came up with all previous settings intact.

I don't know if this effected it or not but before I unplugged it, (based on reading done here) I disabled upnp in my router.

I am having a similar problem when updating the firmware on my 4308.

The update goes smoothly until it reaches "ETHER IM 01Min". At this point, it reverts back to 04Min and then, after another 5 minutes or so, the AVR automatically restarts.

It seems as though the update completed successfully but with the following bugs.

1. Wireless connection lost. Had to go to "GUI - Manual Setup - Network Setup - Details - Connect" to re-establish my wireless connection.

2. Net/USB Favorites lost. However, Internet Radio Favorites set via Radio Denon are remembered.

3. Internet Radio Presets are lost.

4. When I go to "Check for Updates", it still shows a 4 min update available. If I choose to update, it goes through the "ETHER IM" cycle again but continues to show this 4 min update available.

Firmware Version is as follows:

Main = 1.69
Sub = 0.78
DSP1 = 36.56
DSP2 = 39.45
IMG = I200801290325
WEB = W200801290327
CNE = C20080129
BL = B200707020733

Number 4 above bothers me the most. It appears that this module is not updating, although I don't see any issues caused by it. Nevertheless, I'm somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to these types of things so I would like to resolve this issue. Any thoughts/help would be much appreciated.

Dave
post #173 of 3803
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Originally Posted by DOC36 View Post

I am having a similar problem when updating the firmware on my 4308.

The update goes smoothly until it reaches "ETHER IM 01Min". At this point, it reverts back to 04Min and then, after another 5 minutes or so, the AVR automatically restarts.

It seems as though the update completed successfully but with the following bugs.

1. Wireless connection lost. Had to go to "GUI - Manual Setup - Network Setup - Details - Connect" to re-establish my wireless connection.

2. Net/USB Favorites lost. However, Internet Radio Favorites set via Radio Denon are remembered.

3. Internet Radio Presets are lost.

4. When I go to "Check for Updates", it still shows a 4 min update available. If I choose to update, it goes through the "ETHER IM" cycle again but continues to show this 4 min update available.

Firmware Version is as follows:

Main = 1.69
Sub = 0.78
DSP1 = 36.56
DSP2 = 39.45
IMG = I200801290325
WEB = W200801290327
CNE = C20080129
BL = B200707020733

Number 4 above bothers me the most. It appears that this module is not updating, although I don't see any issues caused by it. Nevertheless, I'm somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to these types of things so I would like to resolve this issue. Any thoughts/help would be much appreciated.

Dave

Are you sure about the IMG firmware module # ?

EDIT: actually I ran some searches and your IMG firmware module # may be correct after the latest update. A mistake on my part in the first post of this thread. Please confirm. The cycling has been an issue on earlier firmware versions but this is the first I heard of it with firmware 1.69. Have you tried a hard reset of the receiver and checked weather UPnP is enabled on your network router?
post #174 of 3803
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Originally Posted by captavs View Post

Are you sure about the IMG firmware module # ?

Yes. I just checked it - I200801290325.
post #175 of 3803
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Originally Posted by captavs View Post

Are you sure about the IMG firmware module # ?

EDIT: actually I ran some searches and your IMG firmware module # may be correct after the latest update. A mistake on my part in the first post of this thread. Please confirm. The cycling has been an issue on earlier firmware versions but this is the first I heard of it with firmware 1.69. Have you tried a hard reset of the receiver and checked weather UPnP is enabled on your network router?

Haven't tried a hard reset yet. I wasn't sure that would resolve this as all other functionality seemed fine. UPnP is disabled on my router.
post #176 of 3803
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Originally Posted by DOC36 View Post

Yes. I just checked it - I200801290325.

Ok, thanks for confirming. So this is the latest firmware module for IMG. Makes sense. Anyway, have you tried a hard reset of the unit? Check if UPnP is enabled on the network router? Have you checked all firmware module #'s to see if maybe one of the others did not update?
post #177 of 3803
See personal update in italics.


[quote=captavs;13138624]WELCOME to the Denon 3808/4308/5308 Firmware Tracking and Update Thread!

Firmware version 1.69 - 3808/4308 owners report (firmware update released Feb 16, 2008):

BUGS/UPGRADE ISSUES

1. Internet radio now displays track information but no change when song changes on most stations. You can press the left arrow, wait a few seconds, and it will then show the current song track playing.
Still happening.
2. Internet radio still at times stops streaming and will not buffer any radio or music server tracks without rebooting the receiver using small power button.
Still happening.
3. When stopping a radio station stream it does not return to the station menu.
Still happening.
4. Crashed WIFI connection on most 4308's. Turn DHCP off/on and search/rescan to resolve others require hard reset.
Crashed wired settings and loss of router network, too.

5. Loss of video and audio on some 3808's/4308's after update requiring a hard reset of the receiver. Some members report unable to restore saved configuration without loosing video and audio again requiring hard reset to restore video and audio.
Only within the Net function.

6. Loss of Internet radio on 3808/4308 after the update. Sometimes reseting DHCP on the receiver resolves. May require hard reset of the receiver. UPnP enabled on the network router also known to cause connectivity problems.
Yup.
7. Restorability of configuration settings issue after 1.69 update. Not known why some configurations have restorability issues using prior saved configuration using web interface.
Yes.
8. Member reports Net Radio favorites and presets lost after update on 4308.
Same here.
9. Some problems connecting to update server possibly caused by UPNP being enabled on the network router.
Yes, possibly.
10. Intermittent update problems using Comcast Internet. Problem resolved by taking the receiver to another location with different ISP and performing firmware update. Denon aware of the issue.
NA
11. Web page control 'setup' menu 'INFORMATION' spelled incorrectly "INFOMATION"
Didn't notice; that should be the worst of the problems this update has caused.
12. Many people with 3808/4308 report no problems updating to firmware 1.69. No hard reset required. Configuration retained.
Not me.
FIXED/IMPROVED

1. When using a USB drive the playback mode Repeat and Random work now.
Not tested.2. 7.1 DTS-HD MA now reporting correctly on display.
Not tested.
3. Ethernet operations seem to work faster. (i.e. Internet Radio, saving configuration)
Not really.
4. Music streaming controlled through web interface works better.
Not.
5. Configuration settings retained after update.
post #178 of 3803
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Originally Posted by DOC36 View Post

Haven't tried a hard reset yet. I wasn't sure that would resolve this as all other functionality seemed fine. UPnP is disabled on my router.

Check to see every firmware module is current first. The differences are posted above after 1.69 update and the others should be same as listed in the update instructions.
post #179 of 3803
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[and only 5.1 channels - this is corrected. It will show dts-HD MA 7.1.[/quote]

Have you found the DTS-HD MA 7.1 display report not working? Another owner reports it is working after firmware 1.69 update. Jeff Talmage director of product development also reports this working now.
post #180 of 3803
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[quote=s2silber;13208574]See personal update in italics.


Quote:
Originally Posted by captavs View Post

WELCOME to the Denon 3808/4308/5308 Firmware Tracking and Update Thread!

Firmware version 1.69 - 3808/4308 owners report (firmware update released Feb 16, 2008):

BUGS/UPGRADE ISSUES

1. Internet radio now displays track information but no change when song changes on most stations. You can press the left arrow, wait a few seconds, and it will then show the current song track playing.
Still happening.
2. Internet radio still at times stops streaming and will not buffer any radio or music server tracks without rebooting the receiver using small power button.
Still happening.
3. When stopping a radio station stream it does not return to the station menu.
Still happening.
4. Crashed WIFI connection on most 4308's. Turn DHCP off/on and search/rescan to resolve others require hard reset.
Crashed wired settings and loss of router network, too.

5. Loss of video and audio on some 3808's/4308's after update requiring a hard reset of the receiver. Some members report unable to restore saved configuration without loosing video and audio again requiring hard reset to restore video and audio.
Only within the Net function.

6. Loss of Internet radio on 3808/4308 after the update. Sometimes reseting DHCP on the receiver resolves. May require hard reset of the receiver. UPnP enabled on the network router also known to cause connectivity problems.
Yup.
7. Restorability of configuration settings issue after 1.69 update. Not known why some configurations have restorability issues using prior saved configuration using web interface.
Yes.
8. Member reports Net Radio favorites and presets lost after update on 4308.
Same here.
9. Some problems connecting to update server possibly caused by UPNP being enabled on the network router.
Yes, possibly.
10. Intermittent update problems using Comcast Internet. Problem resolved by taking the receiver to another location with different ISP and performing firmware update. Denon aware of the issue.
NA
11. Web page control 'setup' menu 'INFORMATION' spelled incorrectly "INFOMATION"
Didn't notice; that should be the worst of the problems this update has caused.
12. Many people with 3808/4308 report no problems updating to firmware 1.69. No hard reset required. Configuration retained.
Not me.
FIXED/IMPROVED

1. When using a USB drive the playback mode Repeat and Random work now.
Not tested.2. 7.1 DTS-HD MA now reporting correctly on display.
Not tested.
3. Ethernet operations seem to work faster. (i.e. Internet Radio, saving configuration)
Not really.
4. Music streaming controlled through web interface works better.
Not.
5. Configuration settings retained after update.

Thanks for your input. Please see first post of this thread for updates as reported by all owners. Good to here you got the net radio working. Was the UPnP enabled on the router the problem?
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