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post #10951 of 11036
if you are sure the wiring is ok, ignore that error
post #10952 of 11036
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Originally Posted by kgallerie View Post

I didnt have much time last night, so when I got home, I just connected the RCA analog out from the receiver to the TV and it worked.

Thanks again for all your help! The rest of the setup should be much easier now not having to do it on the front of the receiver

So I tried using the DVD player through HDMI last night, and the audio was playing through the receiver, but the video was not passing through. I tried playing with a bunch of settings (including upconversion) and nothing worked. When I went to the video signal info menu, it displayed:
HDMI SIGNAL
HDMI -> ___
HDMI RES
1080P -> ___
ANALOG RES.
480/576i

So it appears that nothing is being sent to the HMDI output. Any suggestions on how I might get to work?

As an alternative, i ran the HDMI from the DVD player to the TV, then the optical out from TV to the receiver. Would this method of connection have any effects on the sounds quality or surround modes vs. using the HDMI pass through on the receiver?

Any advice would be appreciated.
post #10953 of 11036
Sometimes HDMI can be wonky. Check cable - maybe try another. But first step would be unplug DVD player, replug and try again. I have had my cheapo Phillips DVD player fail and replugging fixes it. Try turning on your equipment in a different order.

As far as optical from TV to 663 - don't do that -your TV probably only outputs 2.0 from a source other than it's own antenna. Do optical from DVD player to 663 (in addition to HDMI from DVD player to TV)
post #10954 of 11036
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Originally Posted by Plasmacat View Post

Sometimes HDMI can be wonky. Check cable - maybe try another. But first step would be unplug DVD player, replug and try again. I have had my cheapo Phillips DVD player fail and replugging fixes it. Try turning on your equipment in a different order.

As far as optical from TV to 663 - don't do that -your TV probably only outputs 2.0 from a source other than it's own antenna. Do optical from DVD player to 663 (in addition to HDMI from DVD player to TV)

Wonky?.....lol. Never heard that word before but I like it

I tried the cable through the HDMI output and got the same thing, and I am also not getting the OSD through HDMI, so I am starting to thing that the HDMI out is broken.

The DVD player only has a coaxial digital output (not optical) so I am running that to the receiver instead of the optical from the TV.

I bought the 663 used so I need to decide whether or not to keep it or to contact the guy I bought it from to let him know that the HDMI output is not working and see what he would be willing to do. So my question is am I sacrificing any sound quality using coaxial/optical digital connections instead of the HDMI?

If anyone else has any ideas or settings I can adjust that might help, please let me know.

Thanks!
post #10955 of 11036
Quick question. Currently have a powered sub connected to the sub out and I have a 2nd smaller power sub blended with my 2 front speakers to provide a more robust low mid range punch when listening to 2 channel stereo. I should also mention that I've run the auto calibration and the AVR did correctly indentify the 2 Fronts as large due to the sub being blended with them though I have left the cross over at 80 so as to allow main sub to deal with the low lows. Now my question is when I use the 2 channel stereo is the full range present or is the cross set to 80?
post #10956 of 11036
depends on what you have for the "subwoofer" menu option. Usually, there is "Sub Only", "Sub + Fronts" and "Fronts". I am not sure how you have everything connected, so I can't really answer. By reading your preface though, you sound like you want everything crossed at 80, correct?
post #10957 of 11036
Steve - What's mains and center are you running?
post #10958 of 11036
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Originally Posted by dbldare View Post

Steve - What's mains and center are you running?

They are CSW's and really less a book shelf speaker and more of a larger satellite type speaker hence the need for a 2nd sub in my config to be exclusively used to blend with the mains primarily for 2 channel playback; the other sub carries the load for everything else. I can say for certain that the sub is active but I wasn't certain if the lower ends would still be clipped in 2 channel stereo playback.
post #10959 of 11036
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

depends on what you have for the "subwoofer" menu option. Usually, there is "Sub Only", "Sub + Fronts" and "Fronts". I am not sure how you have everything connected, so I can't really answer. By reading your preface though, you sound like you want everything crossed at 80, correct?

I definately want everything crossed at 80 for all other playback options because I do have a larger sub to carry the load in a more traditional fashion that is connected to the sub out. My main concern is what is being clipped in 2 channel playback if you have the cross set to 80.
post #10960 of 11036
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

I definately want everything crossed at 80 for all other playback options because I do have a larger sub to carry the load in a more traditional fashion that is connected to the sub out. My main concern is what is being clipped in 2 channel playback if you have the cross set to 80.

From what I am understanding, your bigger main sub is connected to the sub pre-out on the receiver. The smaller sub is connected by speaker wires coming from the front speaker level outputs to act more of a mid-range with the satellite front speakers.

If this is the case and you have the receiver set at 80hz, the receiver will send signals > 80hz to the satellites and the smaller sub, and it will send the signals < 80hz to the main sub. This should be the case in both surround mode and 2 channel mode.
post #10961 of 11036
One last question as I'm not 100% certain on the answer to it even after looking through the manual. After making adjustments to the tone control in 2 channel stereo mode does this affect the tone / performance of the front right and left in any of the multi channel modes or do they revert back to the equilization I originally set up in the auto calibration? Reading the manual it appears that it does not which is what I prefer (manual states Tone Control is not effective when PURE DIRECT is selected, or when MULTI CH INPUT is selected as the input source). This seem pretty clear but after poking around in this thread it seems there are some differing opinions.
post #10962 of 11036
Steve,

I'm not too sure myself. Why not try using an extreme setting (ie FULL bass and treble) and then switch the input and see if it "keeps".


dbl
post #10963 of 11036
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

I definately want everything crossed at 80 for all other playback options because I do have a larger sub to carry the load in a more traditional fashion that is connected to the sub out. My main concern is what is being clipped in 2 channel playback if you have the cross set to 80.

Then you want to set mains as SMALL, and sub option to SWFR (or sub only). What this will do is send all freqs lower than 80 to the sub, whether it is in the LFE channel or main audio stream. Depending on the mode of the avr, you will get the lows through the sub, but in direct you will not (sub deactivated)
post #10964 of 11036
Ok, here is a stupid question that will show how low a techie I am.

I have this receiver, and am using it with a surround-sound system, it was set up for me by the Geek Squad from Best Buy, I dont even know where the manual is.

I am moving soon into a condo building where it might be in my best interest not to use surround-sound if I dont want to get kicked out of the place (mainly older people). However, for reasons un-related to the people there, I need to use the headphone jack on the receiver as no tv's seem to have headphone jacks anymore.

Can I input the DVR and the BluRay player into the receiver via HDMI cable, then use HDMI cable to go to the tv, but not have a surround sound system hooked up. This would allow me to use the tv sound when I want to, and would allow me to use the headphone jack on the receiver when I had to.

How would I set this up?

Thanks for any help guys.
post #10965 of 11036
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Originally Posted by yankeeman View Post

Ok, here is a stupid question that will show how low a techie I am.

I have this receiver, and am using it with a surround-sound system, it was set up for me by the Geek Squad from Best Buy, I dont even know where the manual is.

I am moving soon into a condo building where it might be in my best interest not to use surround-sound if I dont want to get kicked out of the place (mainly older people). However, for reasons un-related to the people there, I need to use the headphone jack on the receiver as no tv's seem to have headphone jacks anymore.

Can I input the DVR and the BluRay player into the receiver via HDMI cable, then use HDMI cable to go to the tv, but not have a surround sound system hooked up. This would allow me to use the tv sound when I want to, and would allow me to use the headphone jack on the receiver when I had to.

How would I set this up?

Thanks for any help guys.

There should be a setting in the HDMI menu that tells the AVR to send audio to the TV. However, using that option will limit any HDMI audio to 2-ch PCM even at the AVR.

Also you can download the manual HERE. with a Yamaha "easypass" account.
post #10966 of 11036
My 663 won't play Dolby True HD tracks. Does anyone know if there was ever a fix? I know this unit is old and Yamaha no longer supports this receiver and I know I can play the track as PCM, but its just a pet peeve.
post #10967 of 11036
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

My 663 won't play Dolby True HD tracks. Does anyone know if there was ever a fix? I know this unit is old and Yamaha no longer supports this receiver and I know I can play the track as PCM, but its just a pet peeve.

It should if you are passing bit-streamed True HD via HDMI from the source... check source settings...
post #10968 of 11036
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Originally Posted by caper_1 View Post

It should if you are passing bit-streamed True HD via HDMI from the source... check source settings...

It's passing DTS-HD Master bitstreamed from the source fine. It just doesn't do it on Dolby True-HD.
post #10969 of 11036
Quick question. I'm currently using the Auto lip sync for the Blu-ray and VCR / DVD player connected via HDMI into the receiver and it works fine but I do have my Xbox via HDMI directly to TV and then toslink out from the Xbox to the AVR and due to some lag in the TV I am seeing some sync issues with the audio. I recall reading someplace that the Auto Sync feature only works via HDMI inputs to but I do see when I had made adjustments to the manual delay that even with Auto on those adjustments remained. So I guess my quesiton is will the auto and the manual settings work at the same time (manual setting non HDMI inputs only) or is it an either / or situation?
post #10970 of 11036
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

Quick question. I'm currently using the Auto lip sync for the Blu-ray and VCR / DVD player connected via HDMI into the receiver and it works fine but I do have my Xbox via HDMI directly to TV and then toslink out from the Xbox to the AVR and due to some lag in the TV I am seeing some sync issues with the audio. I recall reading someplace that the Auto Sync feature only works via HDMI inputs to but I do see when I had made adjustments to the manual delay that even with Auto on those adjustments remained. So I guess my quesiton is will the auto and the manual settings work at the same time (manual setting non HDMI inputs only) or is it an either / or situation?

That is the way the manual describes the behavior:

Manual Lip Sync Setting:
Quote:
Adjustment the audio delay manually when the connected video
monitor is not compatible with the automatic audio and video
synchronization function or HDMI AUTO is set to OFF.
post #10971 of 11036
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Originally Posted by SteveCaron View Post

So I guess my quesiton is will the auto and the manual settings work at the same time (manual setting non HDMI inputs only) or is it an either / or situation?

"Auto" synch is a proprietary HDMI function that depends on the source content being encoded to support it. (read: blu-ray). Almost no content actually supports it, and it's a pretty useless function. Leaving it on doesn't seem to do any harm, but it doesn't really do anything.

Your best option is to turn off the video processing in your display that causes lag.
post #10972 of 11036
Hi All!

I just registered to this forum to check if someone here can help me. For three years already I am running my RX-V663 setup without problems. Suddenly I am expierincing one.

When my receiver hasn't been used for let's say 12 hrs, when I switch it on, I have no sound from my right front speaker. My amp always start at -40db and when I tune it up to -15db the right front suddenly jump in and starts working. When I tune down again to -40db no problems, it just keeps on working.

Do I need to send my amp for repair or is there something I can do? I already replaced my front cables with better ones. For your info: Speakers used are Heco Victa 701.

Thanks in advance!

Greets,
Bjorn
post #10973 of 11036
Sounds like a bad relay contact.
post #10974 of 11036
Front left presence speaker very minimal sound.
Was working fine for several years.
Checked cable and connections no problems.
Sound setting for that speaker also ok.
any ideas?
Thx.

bruc
post #10975 of 11036
I'm sure you've tried the basics, but just make sure you cross things off the list. Try plugging another speaker into the same front-left plug. If that speaker is also low, then you know it's the receiver. But if not, then you know it's the speaker wire, or the speaker. In that case, try just switching the speaker wire. If you get the same issue then you know it's the speaker.

As for the receiver, all I guess I'd try is the Yamaha auto setup again.

Oh, before I forget, also try different audio sources (different tv channel, dvd, etc.).
post #10976 of 11036
for people with record players, what did you use for a phono input? a phono preamp? if so what one? any other solutions to connect a record player to this amp?
thanks
post #10977 of 11036
Is there any way to display "DTS" or "DTS-HD MA" when playing BDs on the RX-V663?
post #10978 of 11036
It should if your BD player is bitstreaming the audio to your receiver.

What blu ray player do you have?
post #10979 of 11036
I'm not sure it can be done, but I figure I'd ask just in case someone has a trick for me. Is it possible to get the 663 to behave in a way that 3d display devices will be able to work with a 663 in the chain?
post #10980 of 11036
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

It should if your BD player is bitstreaming the audio to your receiver.
What blu ray player do you have?

PS3. I switched it to bitstreaming last night and noticed the DTS show up but it wasn't big as it is in other AV recievers. It showed up in the upper left side and it's very small but at least I'm getting it. Thanks! smile.gif
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