Originally Posted by Dawg90
Glad to see this, cause I also suspect that replacing my $800 V793 w/ a $400 player is not going to improve the basic sound quality.
But did you try a Harmony remote? It may be the receiver rather than the remote that is slow.
With the remote of my old 795a, 661 was a lot faster than
with its own remote. So I tend to think that the remote of
661 (or 861) is bad. Nope I didnt try an universal remote.
I bought a URC remote (500 I guess) but before I could get the remote I
decided to sell my 661. That is how much I hated the
remote response. When I paid $500 for a product I expect
it to give me some satisfaction so I didnt wait for the URC.
I also feel that the menu options in 661 or 861 have
too many layers unlike 795a. For example with 795a remote (RAV172)
I just hit the LEVEL menu with my thumb and it goes directly
to the level options for speakers. I hit the SET MENU and it
goes directly to speaker size setting. Where as with the 661
I have to go through multiple layers to change the speaker
size from small or large or vice versa. The LEVEL option goes
directly to speaker level but like I said the remote response
is so slow when changing the volume level, whether the main
volume control or speaker level control.
Of course one could get a harmony remote and program it.
Well it costs some $200 to get that remote. Why would I spend $200 just
so that I can make a $500 receiver give me satisfaction.Like I mentiioned this remote issue doesnt get much attention
at all. BTW this is not a troll post. I want to get some feedback
so that I know that it is not just 1 or 2 receivers that I saw have
this remote response issue.
The only reason why I want to try 663 is because its remote
is different. The volume control is also different. So I have some
vain hope that it may be faster.I dont want to make the same mistake again.
So this time I will only buy from a dealer who has a return policy.
Also if people who have a universal remote could confirm that the
universal remote response is faster than the yamaha remote, then
it gives me some reason to spend that extra $200 on a universal
remote. I also dont want to spend $200 just for the volume control.
I should also be able to handle all the menu options and also be
able to program 1-button for options that need several layers
of menu on 661. It is just ridiculous that the engineers would
change something that was working fine in prior models.
Why cant they just carry over things that were fine. If it aint
broken dont fix it. Dont we all know that well enough. The
slim remote of 795a is also so easy to handle with everything
under thumb reach and also direct 1-button hit for every option instead of
multiple layers, burried way down in menus. This only makes
more sales of the universal remotes (if they could be programmed
for 1-button hit)
I could just get the Onkyo 605. I liked its remote response. I saw $399 for it at CC.
Now it is $439. Issue with 605 is that it also needs several layers
of menu to change the speaker size or speaker levels. Also when ever
I change the speaker level on 605, the unit turns off the sound which is
annoying. Yamaha doesnt do that. 605 also runs like a furnace. Even
when it is just ON (display units at CC) they are so hot.
But at least I wont have any buyers remorse with 605.
Marantz SR4002 ($549) is another option as I liked the remote but
it doesnt have the features which 663 or 605 have.