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post #121 of 607
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

It would become obsolete in the scenario that a lot of people have only one "theater type" setup. If they want the Oppo BR player, and that player does everything the same or better than the old player plus BR too, then the old player is now just about worthless. Who would even want to buy it since it doesn't play BRM? Hence, back to my scenario of having a transport only BR player AND a universal player. Now there's something for everyone.

Bingo! +1!
post #122 of 607
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

It would become obsolete in the scenario that a lot of people have only one "theater type" setup. If they want the Oppo BR player, and that player does everything the same or better than the old player plus BR too, then the old player is now just about worthless. Who would even want to buy it since it doesn't play BRM? Hence, back to my scenario of having a transport only BR player AND a universal player. Now there's something for everyone.

+2

There is no reason why they couldn't release more then one model, just like they do with their current offerings. One with all the bells and wistles, and one with limited to BR and SD DVD only.
post #123 of 607
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Plenty of people have invested "good money" in the 980/981/(and soon)983.
A lot of those people would rather not see their previous player turn obsolete with the release of a UNIVERSAL BR player from Oppo.
I guess I am in the minority too as someone who would like to see a "plain jane" bitstreaming BR player from Oppo. Especially if it could be had on the "cheap".

Oppo BR-1080 (<-transport bitstream BR player only) $249
Oppo BR-1080HDU (<- BR, HD-DVD, SD-DVD, SACD, DVDA, USB, etc...) $549

For these peoples there is a solution. It is called classifieds....

We need less player not more.
post #124 of 607
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Originally Posted by Tolstoi View Post



For these peoples there is a solution. It is called classifieds....

We need less player not more.

Your post needs clarification. Classifieds?... as in buying/selling used goods?... huh?
post #125 of 607
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Originally Posted by Tolstoi View Post



For these peoples there is a solution. It is called classifieds....

We need less player not more.


Who is we?
post #126 of 607
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Originally Posted by Kilian.ca View Post

It should bitstream advance codecs and DSD.

Also if it includes PAL SD DVD support and can be converted easily to region-free for SD (won't mind for HD too) then I'll be most interested.

Exactly! Heck, I'll retire the PS3 if that happens. I still have my oppo and numerous PAL and non R1 NTSC discs that I love.
post #127 of 607
I purchased two Sony MEX-DV2000 multi-channel car radios that decode SACD. A superb sounding unit for around $200.00.

I called Sony for some assistance and they told me there was no such unit sold in North America, just OZ. (This was months after the formal introduction into North America). A few months later I got someone on the line who acknowledged that these units did exist and were sold in North America but they knew nothing, and I mean nothing about the units functionality.

On the other hand, whenever I have contacted OPPO they have been fully and completely knowledgeable and responsive to everything I have thrown at them and their release of firmware updates to solve issues and add functionality has been great. Perhaps it is time for someone to kick Sony in the head since they have the skills to invent and build some hot products but they sure drop the ball on execution over and over again.
post #128 of 607
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Plenty of people have invested "good money" in the 980/981/(and soon)983.
A lot of those people would rather not see their previous player turn obsolete with the release of a UNIVERSAL BR player from Oppo.
I guess I am in the minority too as someone who would like to see a "plain jane" bitstreaming BR player from Oppo. Especially if it could be had on the "cheap".

Oppo BR-1080 (<-transport bitstream BR player only) $249
Oppo BR-1080HDU (<- BR, HD-DVD, SD-DVD, SACD, DVDA, USB, etc...) $549

Any electronics product you buy today is obsolete as they are already testing
its replacement its been this way as long as i remember and its going to get
faster with yearly improvements.
post #129 of 607
I haven't read this entire thread so please forgive me if this has already been mentioned. I've been in contact with Oppo and they have no plans to manufacture a blue ray player at this time. They have obtained a license and are doing some investigating, but no product planning. Their feeling is that the state of the art is changing too quickly and they don't want to release something that will need to be replaced by a new version almost immediately.
post #130 of 607
Well, this thread started with a very short blurb someone posted from Engadget, suggesting that Oppo was in very early development of a BD player (1st post) so we're all just having fun speculating at this time. It's going to be a long wait, but hopefully worthwhile.
post #131 of 607
Maybe by this time next year they'll have something coming.
post #132 of 607
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Originally Posted by Allan2 View Post

I haven't read this entire thread so please forgive me if this has already been mentioned. I've been in contact with Oppo and they have no plans to manufacture a blue ray player at this time. They have obtained a license and are doing some investigating, but no product planning. Their feeling is that the state of the art is changing too quickly and they don't want to release something that will need to be replaced by a new version almost immediately.

someone else, earlier in the thread, posted the same thing but my question is, even if Oppo's feeling that Blu-Ray is changing to quickly, why wouldn't they be able to fix any problems in the future with a firmware upgrade. they seen to do it now with their current SD players.
post #133 of 607
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Originally Posted by spahn View Post

someone else, earlier in the thread, posted the same thing but my question is, even if Oppo's feeling that Blu-Ray is changing to quickly, why wouldn't they be able to fix any problems in the future with a firmware upgrade. they seen to do it now with their current SD players.

Part of the problem is probably that they would want to support profile 2.0, which requires including the associated hardware necessary (can't add memory or ethernet connectivity via a firmware update). At this point, the hardware spec for that is firm (Panasonic will be shipping the BD50 with profile 2.0 support early this summer), but I don't think it's been that way for very long - thus delaying hardware design. I also look at the how much effort player makers are having to invest in firmware updates to deal with mastering problems on discs - that's an annoyance for somebody like Sony or Panasonic, but it would be a more significant problem for OPPO. As the firmare matures, the number of discs like this should taper off.
post #134 of 607
i figure oppo putting blu on the table even though nothing is expected for quite some time is better than just saying they are not going to produce a blu player at all. it gives oppo fans hope and hope is good.
post #135 of 607
For those interested, look at post #113 for Oppo's statement concerning its
current Blu-ray position.
post #136 of 607
The whole thread started with an Engadget story stating that Oppo is early in developing a Blu Ray machine.

Since we all like our Oppo experience, quite a few people are rooting for an Oppo that extends on what they have done with 970, 980, etc.
post #137 of 607
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Originally Posted by Gary Press View Post

For those interested, look at post #113 for Oppo's statement concerning its
current Blu-ray position.

Quite appropriate, as the Blu-Ray market is quite small compared to supporting SD-DVD market. Still like to see what Oppo would produce as far as a Blu-Ray player!
post #138 of 607
I would like to see them make a Blu Ray ONLY player. It uses a difference laser and mechinism than CD or DVD, so just make a BD player. Most people still have never heard of DVD-A and that basically requires a DVD player, SACD is not that popular either and their costs are quite high. And everyone has one or more DVD players already. It would be cheaper and easier and probably work better. But of course they won't do that and all those "reviewers" out there would list the non backward compatibility as a negative. Most DVD players didn't play VHS when they came out (yes there are dual players but that was never a big hit either) and DVD took off. So why do we need backward compatibility???
post #139 of 607
One thing i noticed that the 983 will be out shortly on paper looks to be great,
price jump though so if they do a blu-ray it won't be cheap.
post #140 of 607
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Originally Posted by dakar80124 View Post

I would like to see them make a Blu Ray ONLY player. It uses a difference laser and mechinism than CD or DVD, so just make a BD player. Most people still have never heard of DVD-A and that basically requires a DVD player, SACD is not that popular either and their costs are quite high. And everyone has one or more DVD players already. It would be cheaper and easier and probably work better. But of course they won't do that and all those "reviewers" out there would list the non backward compatibility as a negative. Most DVD players didn't play VHS when they came out (yes there are dual players but that was never a big hit either) and DVD took off. So why do we need backward compatibility???

I would say that combos were never a hit in HT circles, but in the mainstream I would say they were a huge hit. It provided an inroad for many as when their VCR died, they discovered they could buy one with a DVD built in for roughly the same price or at a slight premium. Most people don't want multiple players and see it as clutter.

I bet there are still some stubborn people out there that won't buy a blu player until they can get it in a VHS combo.
post #141 of 607
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Originally Posted by oztech View Post

One thing i noticed that the 983 will be out shortly on paper looks to be great,
price jump though so if they do a blu-ray it won't be cheap.

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if they used it as a way to move more upscale. They certainly have the reputation and following to pull it off.
post #142 of 607
I don't really see the point of a BD-only Oppo. What would distinguish it from all the other BD-only players? The whole point of Oppo is that they do everything and do it all better than the competition. How are they going to do BD better? It's not like they can upscale it. There's not exactly a lot of 4K HD sets out there.
post #143 of 607
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Originally Posted by RoboRay View Post

I don't really see the point of a BD-only Oppo. What would distinguish it from all the other BD-only players? The whole point of Oppo is that they do everything and do it all better than the competition. How are they going to do BD better? It's not like they can upscale it. There's not exactly a lot of 4K HD sets out there.

Exactly right and all those that feel it will kill the status of their current
players the 983 will probably do that anyway.
post #144 of 607
I am interested in an OPPO BD player because I figure that it will provide the performance of a Denon or Pioneer for $450-$550. But if not stellar SD upconversion then no deal! I have a large library of DVDs (as do many around here) and many will take years (if ever) to come out on Blu-Ray. Quality DVD upconversion is a must in any Blu-Ray player for me.
post #145 of 607
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Originally Posted by Zoo View Post

I am interested in an OPPO BD player because I figure that it will provide the performance of a Denon or Pioneer for $450-$550. But if not stellar SD upconversion then no deal! I have a large library of DVDs (as do many around here) and many will take years (if ever) to come out on Blu-Ray. Quality DVD upconversion is a must in any Blu-Ray player for me.

Zoo first id like to say that im not singling you out with this but what you wrote is a great example to use. and this is completely off topic.

Why is everyone so fixed on having just one player? does it take up to much room or something having two players? i hear so many saying the same type of thing. every player must play cds, dvds (+/-/r/rw etc), sacd, dvd-a, blu and everything else i have forgotten about.

back in the days if you wanted to play an 8-track you bought a 8 track player. if you wanted to play a cassette you bought a cassette player if you had lps then you bought a turn table and if you wanted reel to reel then good luck (hehehe)

why cant people be happy to have two players? one for dvd and one for blu? its only taking up another 4 inches of height.

i just dont get it.
post #146 of 607
+1 cadbury8
post #147 of 607
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Originally Posted by cadbury8 View Post

Zoo first id like to say that im not singling you out with this but what you wrote is a great example to use. and this is completely off topic.

Why is everyone so fixed on having just one player? does it take up to much room or something having two players? i hear so many saying the same type of thing. every player must play cds, dvds (+/-/r/rw etc), sacd, dvd-a, blu and everything else i have forgotten about.

back in the days if you wanted to play an 8-track you bought a 8 track player. if you wanted to play a cassette you bought a cassette player if you had lps then you bought a turn table and if you wanted reel to reel then good luck (hehehe)

why cant people be happy to have two players? one for dvd and one for blu? its only taking up another 4 inches of height.

i just dont get it.

You are correct: you don't get it.

Many of us have very limited space in our racks. For example:

1) 110 pound 7 channel amp

2) Anthem Processor

3) Cable HD DVR

4) Blu-ray player

5) HD DVD player

6) SA-CD/DVD-A/CD player

7) Xbox360

8) Line conditioner/Surge protector

I am literally out of space in my rack.

Now add the fact that I am also out of HDMI inputs, you can see why I would prefer a quality universal player as every inch of rack space and connections counts.

By the way, you can see from the above that I AM using more than one player currently. However, I would prefer to not have to do that, so I can free up some space/connections.
post #148 of 607
Rack space and more cables and power cords not to mention another box to give
the electric bill a boost a one box to play my movies would ease all that as i have
10 items already plugged in and running. It could be worse in the 80's i had power
amps,pre-amp,tuner,surround prossessor,surge protectors,turntable,cd player
super beta and vhs.
post #149 of 607
Like Rob said, many of us have quite a lot of equipment already. Anything to trim things down is good.

Replace his big 7-channel amp with three 2U 4-channel pro-amps, replace the HD-DVD with a LaserDisc player, the XBox360 with a networked media-player and toss in a VCR for good measure and you're looking at my stack of gear. While I could squeeze in seperate upscaling DVD and BD players, if I can get a single box that does both of them extremely well, why wouldn't I?

What I don't get is that the people who proclaim their love of Oppo for combining upscaling DVD, CD, SACD, DVD-A, etc. into a single universal player so they don't have to clutter up their rack with additional equipment, are critical of people who want a single universal player that does the exact same thing with Blu Ray.
post #150 of 607
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Originally Posted by RoboRay View Post


What I don't get is that the people who proclaim their love of Oppo for combining upscaling DVD, CD, SACD, DVD-A, etc. into a single universal player so they don't have to clutter up their rack with additional equipment, are critical of people who want a single universal player that does the exact same thing with Blu Ray.

Exactly.
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