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post #151 of 607
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

You are correct: you don't get it.

Many of us have very limited space in our racks. For example:

1) 110 pound 7 channel amp

2) Anthem Processor

3) Cable HD DVR

4) Blu-ray player

5) HD DVD player

6) SA-CD/DVD-A/CD player

7) Xbox360

8) Line conditioner/Surge protector

I am literally out of space in my rack.

Now add the fact that I am also out of HDMI inputs, you can see why I would prefer a quality universal player as every inch of rack space and connections counts.

By the way, you can see from the above that I AM using more than one player currently. However, I would prefer to not have to do that, so I can free up some space/connections.

Yes, I'll buy that Oppo Blue Ray player the moment I can so it can replace something...

Samsung BD-P1200 blueray
Toshiba A3 hd
Panasonic S97 for 4:3 and non-anamorphic material
Oppo HM-31 hdmi switcher
Sony SLV-N700 vcr for vhs-c family movies and movies not yet on disk..THE KEEP
post #152 of 607
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Originally Posted by cadbury8 View Post

back in the days if you wanted to play an 8-track you bought a 8 track player. if you wanted to play a cassette you bought a cassette player if you had lps then you bought a turn table and if you wanted reel to reel then good luck (hehehe)

Does an 8-track physically fit into a cassete deck? Does a Reel to Reel tape physically work on a turntable?

CD, DVD, and BD are all the exact same size and appearance. There are plenty of solutions available for getting the different colored lasers into one mechanism for playback. So why would you want multiple machines that take disks that all look and work the same when you could have one device, well designed by Oppo, that does it all and uses:

- 1 HDMI port
- 1 Setup for your remote control
- only one tray to worry about getting a disk into (a big factor for younger and less tech-savvy family members)
- significantly less space and power (in standby as well as if you have a remote setup that would leave more than one on at a time)

Why not consolidate them? Isn't that exactly what Oppo has been doing for some time? Their latest players have all had consolidation (i.e. Universal) as one of their main points. Heck the 983 is a merging of the universal aspect/better audio of the 980 with the better video aspect of the 981.

Some of us want to have systems capable of dealing with whatever we throw at it, be it SACD, CD, BD, DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, and have it just as usable by our entire family, and babysitters. The less devices:

- the less programming for a universal remote and the less likelyhood of the remote being misconfigured by the less tech-savvy
- the cleaner an appearance the system has (good for WAF and when you have parties - the kind adults have where people talk, sample food, and wine and such)
- the less concern about heat and power draw issues, as well as number of outlet issues
- etc etc etc

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it isn't valid. I totally understand why you might want to have multiple devices. Go for it. That doesn't mean that I'm wrong or crazy for wanting a simplified but flexible setup.
post #153 of 607
wow i didnt expect to get as many answers as that. I must have rung a few bells i guess, hehehehehe. Anyway thanks for the input guys.

totally off topic - i guess thats why the HTPC has such a huge following. that one box does it all. (well except for maybe sacd and dvd-a, not sure about those.)

but then if oppo releases a blu player that is one of the best then im not going to ignore it if it wont play cds or dvds. If i was to be like that then the only media player i would have in my rack would be the ps3 as it does the most. But like has been already mentioned... that is my opinion and i am welcome to it. everyone else is welcome to their own opinion as well and i would never fault them for that. heck a guy at work just picked up on of those new ipod touch things. to him its the best thing since sliced bread. carries his movies, music, photos, notes and everything else in his pocket so he doesnt even have to have an equipment rack in his living room. awesome little piece of equipment. more power to him and to all of you in search of your perfect piece of equipment.
post #154 of 607
hmmm....wait for OPPO or go for the Panny BD50....
post #155 of 607
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Originally Posted by nin1974 View Post

hmmm....wait for OPPO or go for the Panny BD50....

Oppo BD = a loonng way off
BD50 = will be here very soon
post #156 of 607
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

Oppo BD = a loonng way off
BD50 = will be here very soon

Exactly.

Panny now (soon) then two years later sell it and get oppo (for their customer service and technical excellence).
post #157 of 607
since basically everyone here is working for the here and now. id have to agree with scsiraid and pick up the panny then when the oppo comes out pick that up and see if it beats the panny. if it does then to the bedroom with the panny.
post #158 of 607
My plan is to pick up a PS3 and use its BD and gaming capabilities, and pick up an Oppo whenever they release their BD player. Since most people judge the PS3 to be an excellent BD player, this might be a good option.
post #159 of 607
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Originally Posted by Dirac View Post

My plan is to pick up a PS3 and use its BD and gaming capabilities, and pick up an Oppo whenever they release their BD player. Since most people judge the PS3 to be an excellent BD player, this might be a good option.

thats a very good option. its also a decent media server too.
post #160 of 607
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Originally Posted by cadbury8 View Post

Zoo first id like to say that im not singling you out with this but what you wrote is a great example to use. and this is completely off topic.

Why is everyone so fixed on having just one player? does it take up to much room or something having two players? i hear so many saying the same type of thing. every player must play cds, dvds (+/-/r/rw etc), sacd, dvd-a, blu and everything else i have forgotten about.

back in the days if you wanted to play an 8-track you bought a 8 track player. if you wanted to play a cassette you bought a cassette player if you had lps then you bought a turn table and if you wanted reel to reel then good luck (hehehe)

why cant people be happy to have two players? one for dvd and one for blu? its only taking up another 4 inches of height.

i just dont get it.


For me it's two issues: I have more than enough boxes in AV right now (DVD player, DVD recorder(yes it has player - but not the quaility than I get from my OPPO DVD player), AV recv. Satellite box.

Two: my Television has only 1 DVI input, and no HDMI.

So until I can get upscaling of SD dvds equal to the OPPO 971, along with a BR I cant really replace my OPPO.

Rick
post #161 of 607
The new Oppo DV-983H offers what looks to be killer SD upconversion, perfect de-interlacing, 7.1 channel analog outputs, and very flexible aspect ratio control.

http://www.oppodigital.com/dv983h/default.asp

"...and it is the first player to ever score a perfect 100 in the Secrets DVD Benchmark."

About all it doesn't have is BD playback and support for the lossless audio codecs of HD media. If these folks can do this, how is it that the much larger mainstream BD players can't seem to do it? If you pick films (as we do) from the BBOL 70K+ film library or its Netflix equivalent, you know that SD is and will remain the dominantly represented format for quite a while. Toshiba was able to pull off both HD and SD image quality with their XA2, but the upcoming BD players for the foreseeable future appear to be pretty weak when it comes to SD material.

When will a BD player rise to the level of existing XA2 or DV-983H players when it comes to SD image quality???

Kevin
post #162 of 607
upconversion is nice on the bd-p1200 and the 5000 combo player. they both have the reon chip like the xa2. keep in mind that the oppo 983 is 400$ which is quite high for an sd player these days
post #163 of 607
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Originally Posted by Kevin McCarthy View Post


When will a BD player rise to the level of existing XA2 or DV-983H players when it comes to SD image quality???

Kevin

What about the new Denon 3800? BD is much more expensive to manufacture than DVD or HD-DVD and thus the players cost more. Most people outside of this forum wouldn't care enough to pay the difference to but high end upconversion in a mainstream BD player.
post #164 of 607
I own an OPPO. DVD is best served from a non HD device in my opinion. And at the price, it is hard to argue.
post #165 of 607
Add me to the list that would love to see a Universal Player from Oppo. BR, HD DVD and SD DVD.
post #166 of 607
If they ever make a unit that combines everything the 983 has with profile 2.0 Blu-ray playback, then I'll break out the credit card that very day and make a purchase.
post #167 of 607
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Originally Posted by ToddUGA View Post

If they ever make a unit that combines everything the 983 has with profile 2.0 Blu-ray playback, then I'll break out the credit card that very day and make a purchase.


Exactly... where do I sign....
post #168 of 607
I would love a BluRay player that could convert standard DVDs to 1080/24p. Sort of like the Toshiba HD-A35 can do, but a bit smarter and with superior video sourced deinterlacing for material that has to stay at 60hz.
post #169 of 607
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Originally Posted by uzun View Post

I would love a BluRay player that could convert standard DVDs to 1080/24p. Sort of like the Toshiba HD-A35 can do, but a bit smarter and with superior video sourced deinterlacing for material that has to stay at 60hz.

A great many Blu-ray players convert to 1080 24P. Many people think that the PS3, for example, is better than the A35.

[I don't intend to start a flame war about this point, I am simply saying that there are credible options that the poster might examine.]
post #170 of 607
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Originally Posted by donricouga View Post

My dad is waiting for a blu-ray player that can also play DVD-A and SACD but I told him he would be waiting a long time. Perhaps this Oppo will come to the rescue with 7.1 analogs out and internal decoding of DTS MA and Dolby TrueHD??


I was in the same boat. If this OPPO comes to fruition, I'll turn blu in a heartbeat.
post #171 of 607
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Originally Posted by substance12 View Post

I figured a BD region free option would be impossible. But what about SD region free on a BD player? I can live with that comprimise.

Well once Blu Ray goes through the courts in Australia we may yet see a region free player, that's how we ended up with Region Free DVD thanks to the m being taken to task over region coding being anti-competitive and in Australia you have to sell Region free DVD players or at least tell your customer how to make your player region free.

Region coding is quite simply a scam by the studios to increase their margins

Broke
post #172 of 607
for $199 with dts mhd?
post #173 of 607
Discussion for the 983 is very active in the DVD player forum.

larry
post #174 of 607
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Originally Posted by broke_ht_nut View Post

Well once Blu Ray goes through the courts in Australia we may yet see a region free player, that's how we ended up with Region Free DVD thanks to the m being taken to task over region coding being anti-competitive and in Australia you have to sell Region free DVD players or at least tell your customer how to make your player region free.

Region coding is quite simply a scam by the studios to increase their margins

Broke

Agreed. They're one of the few that treat all their customers as criminals.
post #175 of 607
There was a dvd shootout about 5 years ago and the Camelot Roundtable was the only model tested to have 0 flaws. Not looking to knock Oppo but i think the Camelot was 1st. FWIW, i rec'd word from Oppo yesterday that the blu-ray model is still in development and would not be out before 2009 at the earliest.
post #176 of 607
the only thing that worries me is seeing how high the the price is for the 983 sd oppo, that makes me think that when oppo does come out with a blu ray player it may be $599.00. I am willing to wait to buy the oppo blu ray player, but at a reasonable price.
post #177 of 607
I hope they charge a lot of money! Let's face it, nobody scored 100% at "Secrets" and their hard, critical reviews... there are a lot of Players in the $400-500 range. I hope they charge $1200.00 or more for all I care. They can make something better than the DENON and probably for less money... that is what I want. Please OPPO, go all out on this Blu Ray player, we have enough mediocre players out there. If you need to make two models, so be it... but I would like an expensive flagship Blu Ray player from a company that knows how do do everything right (OPPO).
post #178 of 607
I agree that a flagship Blu-ray player from OPPO (something that did everything the 983H does, as well as it does, and did Blu-ray just as well) would be great, but there's also a learning curve to consider. If I was a betting man, I'd bet on their first Blu-ray player being something closer to a 980H / Blu-ray profile 2.0 hybrid - just because it'd be easier to do a flagship type player after having accumulated some experience with the format.
post #179 of 607
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Originally Posted by celticpride View Post

the only thing that worries me is seeing how high the the price is for the 983 sd oppo, that makes me think that when oppo does come out with a blu ray player it may be $599.00. I am willing to wait to buy the oppo blu ray player, but at a reasonable price.

My two cents, with the release of the $399 Oppo 983H universal player with Anchor Bay scaling/deinterlacing, and the fact that numerous new A/V receivers that have their own video processors, wouldn't you think that Oppo might want to just make a decent Blu-Ray player at first without sophisticated SD upconversion as their first product? That way they could provide the Blu-Ray equivalent of the popular Oppo 980H to compete in the market at a reasonable price.
post #180 of 607
I still say... A BR transport only / super simple player = $150... released at end of summer.
Then got to work on the super duper universal player. Out just in time for everyone to blow their tax retun money on it .
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