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post #1441 of 10058
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I am confuzed; supposedly they were going to be 120GB or 160GB; then I heard somewhere a comment of an 80GB model. Which size HD is in yours Kevin? I have a small pdf from SA on the 8000HD; will go looking for the one you mentioned...
post #1442 of 10058
OK, I'm gonna get set up for a visit from the Tecs while I am at home..

Does anyone know if the DVI when enabled will be HDCP, I assume it will..

I'll let everyone know how it goes..

-- Cain

PS Diana, you rock girl !! Thanks for the help !!
post #1443 of 10058
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Cain: The pdf I have for the 8000HD said DVI with HDCP. Time will tell if that is correct.
post #1444 of 10058
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Originally posted by bdenman
I am confuzed; supposedly they were going to be 120GB or 160GB; then I heard somewhere a comment of an 80GB model. Which size HD is in yours Kevin? I have a small pdf from SA on the 8000HD; will go looking for the one you mentioned...


I do not get it until tomorrow evening. I was just curious because the the pdf. says the standard drive is 80gb,
post #1445 of 10058
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Oh; I thought maybe you had one already. It appears your pdf and mine are different then; I cannot find the one you mention (mine is but 4 pages long. want a copy?). I really expect/hope they are distributing the 160GB model.
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post #1447 of 10058
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Thanks. This is the one I was talking about http://www.scientificatlanta.com/cus...ce/4004400.pdf
post #1448 of 10058
Yea, i've seen that one in the past. It more of a spec sheet. The link above is a very detailed user guide that will surely help ones that are no familiar with the 8000. Off to watch Law and Order. I wonder what problems Wis-DT will have tonight?
post #1449 of 10058
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WIS lost HD around 9:25 during TWW. I came back here for last 15 minutes or so; not sure if they fixed their problem or not. Will go check out L&O shortly....

SA has stuff all over their web site; I stumbled over that PDF you linked to and after I had downloaded it. Will read it in detail later. I do see where they list a model with only 7 hours of recording time (senseless if you ask me). (and dated dec 03 too).
post #1450 of 10058
I thought I would post a letter I sent to Doug Nye at the State Newspaper. It was not answered. It was sent 12/16/03

Mr.Nye,

Have you checked with your TWC contacts lately about their desire to get ESPN added on TWC systems? Wis has had a lot of problems with their HD broadcasting of late. Have you heard anything on cable carriage of their HD channel? I noticed that they do not run local commercials on their HD channel when they are broadcasting a HD network feed. It has been my observation that they are the only local station that does not insert local commercials. I wonder if they think it is not important. I am very disappointed that they are not on cable yet . Next month marks the one year anniversary of their digital station. There are a few of us HD local viewers who post comments on a internet forum. You may find this forum interesting. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=1
post #1451 of 10058
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Originally posted by kevinivey
I thought I would post a letter I sent to Doug Nye at the State Newspaper. It was not answered. It was sent 12/16/03

Mr.Nye,

Have you checked with your TWC contacts lately about their desire to get ESPN added on TWC systems? Wis has had a lot of problems with their HD broadcasting of late. Have you heard anything on cable carriage of their HD channel? I noticed that they do not run local commercials on their HD channel when they are broadcasting a HD network feed. It has been my observation that they are the only local station that does not insert local commercials. I wonder if they think it is not important. I am very disappointed that they are not on cable yet . Next month marks the one year anniversary of their digital station. There are a few of us HD local viewers who post comments on a internet forum. You may find this forum interesting. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=1

Interesting you should bring up Mr. Nye. In today's column (here) he said this under a blurb on tonight's Law and Order: " Like many NBC shows, Law & Order is broadcast in high definition. However, WIS has not yet agreed to allow Time Warner Cable to carry its HD signal. 10 p.m., NBC, WIS-10, cable ch. 3."

I found that rather straight forward and appropriate that he mentioned the lack of NBC-HD on TWC. And, back on Jan 4th, he had a rather nice summary of all the HD on TWC except for HBO and Showtime. He mentioned both INHD channels, HDNET, the locals (save NBC) and the lack of ESPN-HD. Perhaps in time he will be say more. I wonder if he had a HD setup? (I hope so).
post #1452 of 10058
We have updated our PSIP server to include programming information for our HD service. You should now see a full PBS HD schedule on your EPG.

-Shaun
post #1453 of 10058
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Originally posted by sbennett
We have updated our PSIP server to include programming information for our HD service. You should now see a full PBS HD schedule on your EPG.

Checked a bit ago and the data is available on my Samsung's guide. Thanks for the update Shaun!
post #1454 of 10058
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Originally posted by sbennett
We have updated our PSIP server to include programming information for our HD service. You should now see a full PBS HD schedule on your EPG.

-Shaun


RCA DTC-100 is showing "Programming Information Not Available" for all locals except Wltx-DT 19-1. The 100 list the channels call letters for all except for all the WIS stations which list nothing. Being that this is a early D* box it my not have all the software to pick up new PSIP. I guess if it were hooked up to a dish, the programming would be inserted by D*.
post #1455 of 10058
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Originally posted by bdenman
...I really expect/hope they are distributing the 160GB model.

Any word on the storage size for the 8000HD?
post #1456 of 10058
160gb!!!! Bruce, emailed me and said it appears to be. There not here yet...
post #1457 of 10058
Thread Starter 
Initial post:
My SA8000HD (SARA based) was installed about two hours ago. So far it's operation appears to work similar to the standard defintion 8000 with the setup routine/options similar to that of the 3250HD box. As mentioned yesterday, the basic specs are available on the Scientific Atlanta Web site.

- My unit has a 160GB drive that should allow for about 20 hours of HD recording. Have not yet tried to record SD; HD works fine.

- It has DVI port which we know from TWC is not yet enabled (update scheduled for March). No Firewire port on this box (as expected). No suprises on the back panel.

- PIP uses the both tuners so you have dual PIP.

- Remote is an AT8400 and requires you to hit the green List button to get the list (different from SD model). This remote is slightly different from the AT8410 remote that came with our older 8000SD model but may be the one most 8k users have. In my estimation the design of the AT4200 (and the AT8410) is much inferior from that of the AT2300 that came with the SA3250. In short and remember, this is my opinion... this remote sucks big time! It has very poor ergonomics. While it looks similar to other remotes like the AT2300 its button operation is different and is much harder to use. YUCK!

But, overall; it appears so far to be a keeper.
post #1458 of 10058
I had my 8000HD installed today. The tec. said that it had a 80gig hard drive.
I had to show the tec. how to get into the menu, to set up the box. The back of the 8000 is different from the 3250. I can only get the sound to work thru my HT system. Can't get any sound from the TV. Any one have any ideas how to get it work thru the TV speakers.
post #1459 of 10058
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Did you connect the box to your set with analog cables? We just moved all the cables from the 3250 the the 8000 and TV sound works. I have not checked the digital coax out yet; will go try that shortly. You might check the Settings menu too (on the remote); see what it has default as audio (my tech played with that automatically but not sure what he might have changed if anything).

The tech checked the box's diagnostics here (and the signal to). The hard drive is listed as a Maxtor 4R160LO which the Maxtor site confirms is a standard 5200rpm 160GB drive (2MB cache).

To all: the box also has to be activated (via a hit) for it to be able to record.
post #1460 of 10058
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Originally posted by bdenman


To all: the box also has to be activated (via a hit) for it to be able to record.

Just got my box activated for the DVR service. Why can't these things come pre-authorized so we don't have to call TWC?

Oh well. 15 minutes later, and all works well so far.
post #1461 of 10058
I'm jealous...

There can't be that many people around using a PVR with HD. How much does it cost for the HD 8000 (rental?)? Are these boxes hackable to add more hours via HD swaps like the TiVo?

cool...can't wait for my HDTivo. I'm getting the Hughes HTL-HD installed Sat but already am viewing OTA with a crappy antenna.
post #1462 of 10058
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We are very fortunate; we are on the leading edge of the deployment of these DVRs. Regarding rental cost, here the SA8000HD's are right at $15/mo (essentially $5/mo more than one of the other digital receivers). And no; I would not consider them hackable at all.

If you need more storage space check out HDTV PC card for now (and flesh out your computer with a couple of huge hard disks). There is a 8000 Group over at Yahoo; some there have tried putting larger drives in a standard 8000 without success (some of these folks live in Canada where they had to buy them).
post #1463 of 10058
Finally, at quarter till 8. I have it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
post #1464 of 10058
re: the HD 8000

how many hours of SD can you record? The 250GB TiVo is supposed to rec 30 hours of HD or 200 hours of SD or a combination of the two.
post #1465 of 10058
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Recording size should be just under 9GB/hr so one might assume 20 hours of HD with 160GB. I will try and verify that at some point. The Dish 921 has a 250GB disk with a stated time of about 25hours of recording time. So everybody is in the same ballpark it would appear. Folks who do some of each kind will confuse things greatly (no "fuel" gauge).

The SD version of the 8000 usually has an 80GB disk and reportedly can do 50 hours of ditigal tier recording and only about 30 hours of analog tier recording (it has to encode it and it's encoder is not as efficient as the content producers is).
post #1466 of 10058
Install lasted about 5 minutes and all is well. Contractor knew he had to call to authorize and he did. Recorded some of the HDNET basketball game and playback was perfect, and instant replay worked as described. Its interface is not as slick as TiVo, but works non the less. The dual tuners for HD pip worked flawlessly. I have been told by Diana that she would talk to the TWC engineers about the s-video and the composite video feeds tomorrow. I feel that we all owe TWC and Diana a big thank you for there prompt distribution of this new product. Good evening to all.
post #1467 of 10058
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Originally posted by kevinivey
I feel that we all owe TWC and Diana a big thank you for there prompt distribution of this new product. Good evening to all.

I could not agree more. I had an issue with staying until the end of my appointment time. Diana called the installation manager to ensure the tech got there in time. When he got behind on another install, a DIFFERENT tech called me and said he would be at my house in 15 minutes. I can't think of a time when I have been this happy with TWC. I had about 3 minutes to play with the DVR and it reboots as soon as I press the GUIDE button. I just grabbed the boxes and let the tech leave so I did not get them activated. Maybe that is part of the problem. Anyone else see this? I also am having trouble with sound. On the box that is connected to the HT the optical output works fine. The one in the bedroom is connected to the TV via analog RCA cables. A quick glance of the manual gives no info on how to set this up. I guess I shouldn't have rushed the Tech off now...
post #1468 of 10058
No, you have to activate the box. It may be too late to do it tonight. Mine has worked perfect since 7:45. I tried my best to confuse it and it kept on working like it was supposed to.
post #1469 of 10058
Strangely, the box in the living room accepted a recording request for one of my wife's soaps without activation. The one in the bedroom won't.
post #1470 of 10058
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My 8000HD DVR has been working fine too. I agree with Kevin, perhaps tomorrow they can get the box working for you!

Now NBC-DT (OTA) is burping big time here; signal strength is fine but for last ten minutes the picture freezes, screen blacks out; and the box reacquires the signal. And it soon goes through it all again. I see they are remapping now; maybe that is confusing the Samsung box (not sure when they started it). (and now its fixed; total problem time about 15min)
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