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post #6451 of 10058
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

....passed the House, in the Senate....

then we're screwed
post #6452 of 10058
There is another issue in COPE. The issue is Net Neutrality. It goes like this. If the bill passes the senate then TW as RR can decide what web sites we get to use based on whatever TW wants -- maybe $$. So Google won't pay TW enough so no Google or it becomes a real back door to get there. This is not a porn issue this is an issue about what sites your server will let you get to. So it could be the only home page you might have is RR -- maybe you like that page -- I don't but you would not have a choice. TW could decide that they don't like certain bloggers so those sites won't be on RR and so on. So this COPE bill is not a great deal. I have been working hard to get it defeated in the Senate. WE knew we would lose it in the house but it should not pass the senate. Our two boys are for it by the way. You may want to out and Google Net Neutrality -- while you still can
post #6453 of 10058
I think the way it works out is you can still get to everything but money will change hands between big companies with big net traffic and those that provide the traffic superhighways. We still get it in the end - in more ways than one.
post #6454 of 10058
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Originally Posted by kjpjr View Post

There is another issue in COPE. The issue is Net Neutrality. It goes like this. If the bill passes the senate then TW as RR can decide what web sites we get to use based on whatever TW wants -- maybe $$. So Google won't pay TW enough so no Google or it becomes a real back door to get there. This is not a porn issue this is an issue about what sites your server will let you get to. So it could be the only home page you might have is RR -- maybe you like that page -- I don't but you would not have a choice. TW could decide that they don't like certain bloggers so those sites won't be on RR and so on. So this COPE bill is not a great deal. I have been working hard to get it defeated in the Senate. WE knew we would lose it in the house but it should not pass the senate. Our two boys are for it by the way. You may want to out and Google Net Neutrality -- while you still can

Well, they are always attaching things to bills that kind of screws things up, but something should be done to help stop Local governments from making it impossible for competition.
post #6455 of 10058
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Originally Posted by scruffy7 View Post

when LexHiDef's dream of free market cable competition comes true.

And it's way, way, way overdue.
post #6456 of 10058
So how's the audio levels on WOLO-DT?
post #6457 of 10058
The TWCSC website and hdsportsguide.com both indicate tonight's Braves game was to be on TurnerSouth HD (channel 814 on TWCSC), however, the game is on FoxSportsSouth (or FSN or whatever) in terrible SD.

Diana, I realize that , most probably, TWCSC nor you had anything to do with this, but can you help me understand the reason the game was switched, apparently with little or no notice to TWCSC or HD Sports Guide?

Thanks in advance.
post #6458 of 10058
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

So how's the audio levels on WOLO-DT?


Seems like you reverted back a couple of years in your audio setup. I prefer center channel for vocals, and having forced stereo in the fake 5.1 is a real bummer.
post #6459 of 10058
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Originally Posted by LexHiDef View Post

The TWCSC website and hdsportsguide.com both indicate tonight's Braves game was to be on TurnerSouth HD (channel 814 on TWCSC), however, the game is on FoxSportsSouth (or FSN or whatever) in terrible SD.

Diana, I realize that , most probably, TWCSC nor you had anything to do with this, but can you help me understand the reason the game was switched, apparently with little or no notice to TWCSC or HD Sports Guide?

Thanks in advance.

I sent an email to FOX Networks to ask why.... will let you know what they say
post #6460 of 10058
Somebody there in Columbia tell WIS to flip the damn HD switch on the golf.
post #6461 of 10058
Again, thanks.

Now...I don't necessarily like to be a pain in the rear end, but I like to get what I am promised and pay for.....why is the US Open golf telecast not in widescreen HD right now? The picture is good and I can't really tell whether it's HD or not but it definitely isn't widescreen.
post #6462 of 10058
That's a question for WIS. we pass through as they send it.
post #6463 of 10058
I called WIS about 1:15 and they guy "flipped the switch". I have had the most luck with that. Call the station directly when you know a show is supposed to be in HD and become a polite pain in the
post #6464 of 10058
First of all, we shouldn't have to call anyone...it's ridiculous. Secondly, I send my money to TWCSC and they ARE my cable provider so why shouldn't I expect them to make SURE I have what I am supposed to have from my cable?

Thanks for calling the station....apparently you are the reason they finally got a clue. I did send them an email through their website but they were probably asleep at the wheel where that is concerned too.
post #6465 of 10058
I would think TWC gets plenty of calls of this sort. The casual cable HD viewer's first thought is probably to call the cable company. It seems TWC could avoid a lot of trouble calls and undeserved blame by having an interest in alerting the stations themselves.
post #6466 of 10058
You guys sure make it sound easy... We just pay someone to watch tv all day and we're done.
post #6467 of 10058
It's bad enough I can't get ESPN2 in HD for the World Cup. It's bad enough that WOLO, in their infinite wisdom, preempted the first 75 minutes of today's opening game for a paid infomercial from Kenneth "Love Jesus And Make Millions!!!" Copeland. But now the game's on, and the friggin' idiots haven't flipped the HD switch. And no one in engineering or programming is picking up a phone.

Then again, what do you expect from a station that cares enough about the community to move their news operations to Charlotte? WOLO is a third-rate operation.
post #6468 of 10058
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Originally Posted by LexHiDef View Post

First of all, we shouldn't have to call anyone...it's ridiculous. Secondly, I send my money to TWCSC and they ARE my cable provider so why shouldn't I expect them to make SURE I have what I am supposed to have from my cable?

Thanks for calling the station....apparently you are the reason they finally got a clue. I did send them an email through their website but they were probably asleep at the wheel where that is concerned too.



Oh STOP! You buy cable service from TWC to provide you what the stations send.
It does not occur to me that TWC is at all responsible for what the station sends.
TWC should only be responsible for getting a good representation of what the station is sending to them. With your understating you'll want them to do the producing as well very soon. :-)
post #6469 of 10058
Diana - I've emailed you. This weekend has been a nightmare and the blame falls squarely on TWC. I still have no service and no idea what is going on.

Please read the email and see what you can do. I'll leave the details off of here as YOU have personally been very helpful. It's the others at the mill who are driving me nuts. I'm posting from a friend's home, and obvisouly, since I have no working phone, tv, or internet, will not be able to check this board for any information. My contact info is in the email.
post #6470 of 10058
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Originally Posted by overthehill View Post

Oh STOP! You buy cable service from TWC to provide you what the stations send.
It does not occur to me that TWC is at all responsible for what the station sends.
TWC should only be responsible for getting a good representation of what the station is sending to them. With your understating you'll want them to do the producing as well very soon. :-)

Let me see if I understand what you are suggesting here.

A consumer goes to Dillards, Belks, Louries, or other clothing store and purchases an article of clothing. They get home and discover that it is defective, i.e., a zipper appears to be coming undone or there is a hole in the garment. Since the clothing store is only selling the consumer a "good representation" (whatever that means) of the manufacturers goods, should the consumer then contact the manufacturer of the clothing directly for proper handling of the problem? Or should they contact the store?

You go to the grocery store and buy a melon. You get home, cut it open and it is rotten inside. Do you track down the farmer or distributor of the melon for resolution of the problem or do you look to the store? After all, the store is only selling a "good representation" of the farmer or distributors goods.

Based on my interpretation of what you advocate here, you would suggest contacting the clothing manufacturer or farmer/distributor for rectification of these problems. Am I right or wrong?

By the way, what did I understate?

And, no, I don't want them producing anything....they have a hard enough time getting what they are doing now right.
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post #6472 of 10058
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Originally Posted by LexHiDef View Post

Let me see if I understand what you are suggesting here.

A consumer goes to Dillards, Belks, Louries, or other clothing store and purchases an article of clothing. They get home and discover that it is defective, i.e., a zipper appears to be coming undone or there is a hole in the garment. Since the clothing store is only selling the consumer a "good representation" (whatever that means) of the manufacturers goods, should the consumer then contact the manufacturer of the clothing directly for proper handling of the problem? Or should they contact the store?

You go to the grocery store and buy a melon. You get home, cut it open and it is rotten inside. Do you track down the farmer or distributor of the melon for resolution of the problem or do you look to the store? After all, the store is only selling a "good representation" of the farmer or distributors goods.

Based on my interpretation of what you advocate here, you would suggest contacting the clothing manufacturer or farmer/distributor for rectification of these problems. Am I right or wrong?

By the way, what did I understate?

And, no, I don't want them producing anything....they have a hard enough time getting what they are doing now right.

well, you seem to be putting a lot of work into trying to get a decent analogy; this appears to be version #3...i hope i'm not jumping the gun here before v4 is released.

so, every time you find a web site is down do you call your ISP and ask why you can't connect to that one site? just wondering.

i think that it's more useful to let the source of a problem know when possible. the local stations don't put a lot of effort into HD because they don't view it as a moneymaker yet. WIS is especially bad in this regard and i think directing your ire their way might get better results.
post #6473 of 10058
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Originally Posted by DianaTWCSC View Post

You guys sure make it sound easy... We just pay someone to watch tv all day and we're done.

Can I apply for this job????
post #6474 of 10058
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Not a bad idea.....
post #6475 of 10058
Apparently Starz-HD and Cinemax-HD has popped up in TEXAS on TWC!!!

I know their's space on Columbia's system for these channels, are u getting them?

San Antonio, TX:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthre...537#post591537

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...02#post7847102


Austin, TX:
http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?t=26114
post #6476 of 10058
Intersting - first I have heard of it, so right this second still no change in SC plans.

Thanks
post #6477 of 10058
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Originally Posted by Marky_Mark896 View Post

Can I apply for this job????


Weel - lets see - 24/7 exclusive TV watching on 5 different HD lineups - that's got to be 15 Full Time and at least 5 Part Time heads .... so sure I think you probably have a chance
post #6478 of 10058
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Originally Posted by LexHiDef View Post

Let me see if I understand what you are suggesting here.

A consumer goes to Dillards, Belks, Louries, or other clothing store and purchases an article of clothing. They get home and discover that it is defective, i.e., a zipper appears to be coming undone or there is a hole in the garment. Since the clothing store is only selling the consumer a "good representation" (whatever that means) of the manufacturers goods, should the consumer then contact the manufacturer of the clothing directly for proper handling of the problem? Or should they contact the store?

You go to the grocery store and buy a melon. You get home, cut it open and it is rotten inside. Do you track down the farmer or distributor of the melon for resolution of the problem or do you look to the store? After all, the store is only selling a "good representation" of the farmer or distributors goods.

Based on my interpretation of what you advocate here, you would suggest contacting the clothing manufacturer or farmer/distributor for rectification of these problems. Am I right or wrong?

By the way, what did I understate?

And, no, I don't want them producing anything....they have a hard enough time getting what they are doing now right.

You are buying a service with TWC. That service does not include (in anything I can find/read) that says that TWC is responsible for anything but supplying what the stations supply to them.

When I buy from a store I am buying a product that the store has indicated, in their written policy, that I may return a defective product to them and they will deal with the problem from that point.
post #6479 of 10058
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Originally Posted by DianaTWCSC View Post

Weel - lets see - 24/7 exclusive TV watching on 5 different HD lineups - that's got to be 15 Full Time and at least 5 Part Time heads .... so sure I think you probably have a chance

I think you should give the job to Lex, he notices EVERYTHING that goes wrong.

If I were as miserable as Lex, I would sell all my stuff and live in a cave.

I would like the position of Corporate AVS Forum reader several of the folks here write their long-winded tirades of HD channels we don't have in our area to.
post #6480 of 10058
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Originally Posted by overthehill View Post

You are buying a service with TWC. That service does not include (in anything I can find/read) that says that TWC is responsible for anything but supplying what the stations supply to them.

When I buy from a store I am buying a product that the store has indicated, in their written policy, that I may return a defective product to them and they will deal with the problem from that point.

So when I'm hitting the Favorites button looking for something to watch and a channel turns up blank, I still have to figure out if it's TWC or not in order to complain? Seems like a lopsided deal there for something I run into more often than I like.

How about we call TWC, then they immediately figure out if it's their fault (receiver down for repair, etc.) and if not THEY call the broadcaster to get them on the stick?

One TWC number, NOT the main customer service number for other issues, give them the channel number(s), let them deal with it as part of good customer service?

NAh, that'd be too convenient...
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