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Would you be willing to loan/share some of your HD-DVD movies?

post #1 of 23
2/21/08 at 7:40pm
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Since there isn't anybody willing to go into the business of renting HD-DVDs to all of the people with HD-DVD players, do you think it would be a good idea for people here to loan out a few of their movies? Do you trust the other forum members enough? How about if there were rules about how long they had to be members for or how many posts they need to have?

I used to be a member of Peerflix ( www.peerflix.com/index.jsf ), where the company had you send a movie to the next person that wanted it, and you paid a small fee plus the shipping costs (it wasn't too much).

I have 10 HD-DVD movies and will only be picking up about 4 or 5 more in the next few months, but there are quite a few movies that are in the 'rent' category that I would have liked to watch in HD instead of going to Blockbuster and getting the SD version.



(If someone isn't doing much right now, and wants to run a home business, I would pay some money to belong to a HD-DVD only movie trading club, and I bet a few other people would too. It would resemble Peerflix, but fix one flaw that they had. PM me about it)
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post #2 of 23
2/21/08 at 7:59pm
Very interesting idea.

Personally I don't understand why no one is interested in pursuing this market for the next several years. There are around 1.3 million HD DVD players out in the wild and a library of around 450 releases to exploit.

It seems everyone is trying to get rid of HD DVD as fast as possible, yet I would think that if a studio announced they would continue publishing on HD DVD for the moment to cater to those that have invested in the format, they would probably go on selling discs even if players are no longer being sold.

And quite certainly, there has to be a market for HD DVD rentals. An HD DVD exclusive service would be great.
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post #3 of 23
2/21/08 at 8:22pm
My experiences with Netflix-rented HD-DVDs leaves me completely uninterested in lending my discs to anyone.
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post #4 of 23
2/21/08 at 8:34pm
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I would hope the people here would be a little more careful with the disks than your average Netflix user. But it is a valid concern.
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post #5 of 23
2/21/08 at 9:43pm
About a year ago a few members passed mutiny on the bounty Around. It seemed to go pretty well. If I real they did quizes to detirmine the next in line
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post #6 of 23
2/22/08 at 12:46am
well my brother has a HD player and i lend him movies but yeh i'd lend them to people that are responsible (deposit paid in case of damage or loss)
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post #7 of 23
2/22/08 at 5:23am
It'll never work. Once titles go OOP anybody who lends them out is foolish or doesn't want the movie anymore. How long to you think you'll see current HD-DVD titles on Netflix once they go OOP?

larry
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post #8 of 23
2/22/08 at 5:33am
I have to agree with some of the others... Lending can be risky. I thought I could trust people until one of my Start Wars DVD's came back scratched to hell. After that I said no more. Not even family can borrow from me anymore.

Even starting a business is risky with HD-DVD because there will always be that one collector who doesn't have that movie and swipes it from the business and is never to be heard from again.

I wish people would be more responsible, but in the end the only responsible person is usually yourself.
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post #9 of 23
2/22/08 at 7:56am
peerflix is the way to go for something like this.

jcg
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post #10 of 23
2/22/08 at 1:49pm
All HD-DVD's will be OOP relatively soon. That means that even the most well-intentioned and careful borrower will be unable to obtain new copies of many, then most, and eventually all titles.

Given that, not only would I be unwilling to lend my HD-DVDs, I would be uninterested in borrowing them. If someone's disc gets lost in the mail after I send it, and I can only find $50 used copies on an auction site, what am I supposed to do?
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post #11 of 23
2/22/08 at 1:56pm
Should be able to many for unbelievable prices soon enough anyway...
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post #12 of 23
2/23/08 at 8:52am
No way, they are way too easy to scratch or smuge (especially combos) to be lending them out.
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post #13 of 23
2/23/08 at 1:28pm
After trusted coworkers scratched some of my DVDs I stopped lending - period.

Unless it's a disk that I am happy to kiss "good-bye, forever, ol' pal."
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post #14 of 23
2/23/08 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by jcg View Post

peerflix is the way to go for something like this.

jcg

Peerflix's problem is that there is no max time limit on the length you can borrow DVDs. Add to that they haven't really implemented a HD only search/library yet, it won't work. If the user would get fined the value of the movie on eBay +shipping+$10 after 3-4 weeks, you would see that people wouldn't want to keep them. And if you couldn't find them on eBay, then it would be time to sell them off to the users. If people did keep them, or lost them, then you would re-buy it on eBay and put it back into circulation.

Peerflix did do the pricing thing better than Netflix, where you are only charged for what you get, not for every month. And when you sign up, you paid for two movies or so, but you get to use those movies to swap with other people. (You don't 'own' any specific movie/disk, but you have something that you can trade with other people, the company decides which ones are most in demand to buy with your entry fee, and can charge everyone equally if they have to replace a disk. Kind of sounds like socialism.)

And I doubt that HD-DVD will be that rare in the next two years that you couldn't find it pretty cheap on-line if a movie did have to be replaced.
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post #15 of 23
2/23/08 at 2:01pm
No way, they are way too easy to scratch or smuge (especially combos) to be lending them out.
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post #16 of 23
2/23/08 at 5:51pm
I would not be willing to do this; I really don't see how anyone could trust a stranger like that. I don't even loan discs anymore to most of my friends and relatives (only the ones that take care of their stuff the same way I do). One time I got back a movie a lent to a coworker who put in two minor scratches. I complained to him, and his attitude as "so what, it still works doesn't it?" Never again.
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post #17 of 23
2/23/08 at 11:00pm
Well, I kinda see Ebay acting like a natural trading area. As an example, imagine buying a movie you have not seen for $10 plus $2 shipping (media mail + a small Ebay fee). Watch it a time or two, then resell to the next guy for $10 plus $2 shipping. It would be like renting it for $2. I bet you there's gonna be a whole load of discs just naturally making the rounds on Ebay.

Plus, if someone thinks there's a possibility they may resell a title, they'll be more likely to handle it with care.
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post #18 of 23
2/23/08 at 11:02pm
i miss www.nicheflix.com

their service was perfect for hd dvd. OOP, imports, etc.

DANG!!!!
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post #19 of 23
2/24/08 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by Rooski View Post

Well, I kinda see Ebay acting like a natural trading area. As an example, imagine buying a movie you have not seen for $10 plus $2 shipping (media mail + a small Ebay fee). Watch it a time or two, then resell to the next guy for $10 plus $2 shipping. It would be like renting it for $2. I bet you there's gonna be a whole load of discs just naturally making the rounds on Ebay.

Plus, if someone thinks there's a possibility they may resell a title, they'll be more likely to handle it with care.

I had the same thought this morning, except I thought about using Amazon marketplace. I'm not sure which one is better or if Amazon will get rid of the HD-DVD pages once they stop selling them.
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post #20 of 23
2/24/08 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by Rooski View Post

Well, I kinda see Ebay acting like a natural trading area. As an example, imagine buying a movie you have not seen for $10 plus $2 shipping (media mail + a small Ebay fee). Watch it a time or two, then resell to the next guy for $10 plus $2 shipping. It would be like renting it for $2. I bet you there's gonna be a whole load of discs just naturally making the rounds on Ebay.

Plus, if someone thinks there's a possibility they may resell a title, they'll be more likely to handle it with care.

i did this with the hands on a hard body dvd about 2 years ago. except i paid about $30 plus $5 shipping and sold it for about the same (maybe $2-3 more). ebay/paypal fees probably ate up about $2-3, so i got the "rental" for about $5. now that the movie is selling for $50-$100 the last time i checked, i kind of wished i had held onto it for a while (i could have lent it to a very trustworthy family member and then sold it for a pretty good profit).

although i think in 2-3 months you will be paying $5 plus $2 shipping for hd dvd movies from ebay.
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post #21 of 23
2/24/08 at 1:56pm
I ain't lending as there ain't going to be any more copies.
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post #22 of 23
2/24/08 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by willyd View Post

i did this with the hands on a hard body dvd about 2 years ago. except i paid about $30 plus $5 shipping and sold it for about the same (maybe $2-3 more). ebay/paypal fees probably ate up about $2-3, so i got the "rental" for about $5. now that the movie is selling for $50-$100 the last time i checked, i kind of wished i had held onto it for a while (i could have lent it to a very trustworthy family member and then sold it for a pretty good profit).

although i think in 2-3 months you will be paying $5 plus $2 shipping for hd dvd movies from ebay.

Why would that movie be worth that much? It is a movie I would expect to see at a public library.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hands-Hard-B...3890012&sr=8-1
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post #23 of 23
2/24/08 at 6:09pm
If my own personal friends f*ck up my discs, why the hell would I expect complete strangers not to?

No way! Mine.
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