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Yes equipment sounds like your weak link.
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Same goes for the SQ complaint in cars - it is often because of inferior equipment. Sirius on my $5k B&W option in a BMW and the $6k Burmester in a 911 both sound great.
Sirius in our lincoln and Acura sounded better then our VW how much of that is the chips vs speakers I am not sure but cd/radio sounded pretty good in the VW while Sirius would sound like we were in a tin can
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Sirius in our lincoln and Acura sounded better then our VW how much of that is the chips vs speakers I am not sure but cd/radio sounded pretty good in the VW while Sirius would sound like we were in a tin can
XM sounds like utter crap in my 2012 Honda CR-V, especially the higher pitch sound frequencies. CD and bluetooth/USB phone streaming sound just fine though. Same results also in my parents 2017 Sienna XLE.
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There's a new XM app/online player as of today.The only thing missing as of now is the MySxm control.

The best way to listen to music is in 5.1 imho.
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learn about about VBR and compression algorithms that improve constantly. Skipped th rest - you don't get to waste my time.

Are you really trying to defend the sound quality of SiriusXM radio?
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Why would they use a system that requires an expensive hardware setup to sound good?

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It would appear that you need to buy a $5,000 car stereo in order to make the pay service of SiriusXM sound as good as free FM radio...
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It would appear that you need to buy a $5,000 car stereo in order to make the pay service of SiriusXM sound as good as free FM radio...
You are catching on. Most of the whiners are using inferior equipment and blaming their sound source. Others just can not afford Sirius therefore it is bad. I get it.
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You are catching on. Most of the whiners are using inferior equipment and blaming their sound source. Others just can not afford Sirius therefore it is bad. I get it.


I can listen to XM on my phone and it sounds good. I’m not going to lay out $5000 for a system. I don’t know who would. If that were the case Laserdisc would have succeeded.


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It would appear that you need to buy a $5,000 car stereo in order to make the pay service of SiriusXM sound as good as free FM radio...


Really? Didn’t Laserdisc fail because of its high hardware costs? What about open reel tape machines? If I have to spend five grand to hear satellite radio it’s not worth the price. I’ll Pandora it.


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I can listen to XM on my phone and it sounds good. I’m not going to lay out $5000 for a system. I don’t know who would. If that were the case Laserdisc would have succeeded.


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Really? Didn’t Laserdisc fail because of its high hardware costs? What about open reel tape machines? If I have to spend five grand to hear satellite radio it’s not worth the price. I’ll Pandora it.


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I have once for a BMW and once for a Porsche. YOU problems don't count.







Gross exaggeration does not mean much.


Sorry mr money bags, didn’t mean to offend. Not all of us are flush with cash and we are empathetic.

Did you mean "Your problems don't count?" You do know everyone can read this thread. Seriously, is that your final answer?


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I had an XMp3 portable unit up until two years ago when XM added their "artist fee" to the bill and decided to give it up as I only had it for one talk show and the music channels sounded like crap. Last year my wife bought a new car with sirius and I couldn't believe how crappy it sounded. The HD radio in her car sounded much better. XM and Sirius compress their channels so much, I don't know who would pay for it. It sounds like your listening through a thin wall. I use Pandora through my Iphone and it sounds much better in the car than satellite. JMO</div>
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Totally agree. Pandora sounds phenomenally better than Sirius. One of the problems with Sirius (don't know if this is also a problem with XM) is that there are tremendous phase distortion problems. I don't know if this is an artifact of the compression or an artifact of the satellite transmission.<br><br>
If you listen to the different signal (Left minus Right) on Sirius, you hear sound artifacts that sound exactly like the sound effects that are usually used in movies when they show a satellite in orbit. It's uncanny.
SIRIUSXM sounds better online.
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SIRIUSXM sounds better online.
If play on a nice hi-fi yes, if played on a cheap player compared to a nice car system, no. Playback equipment matters.
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If play on a nice hi-fi yes, if played on a cheap player compared to a nice car system, no. Playback equipment matters.


XM has so much distortion and crosstalk that any audio system will reveal a superior online experience. That and the satellite doesn’t do stereo or what anyone would consider stereo. The Beatles channel should just play monaural versions.


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Only the most revealing systems show flaws as with any recording reproduction. Can be difficult concept, I know.
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Only the most revealing systems show flaws as with any recording reproduction. Can be difficult concept, I know.
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both services, XM Radio and Sirius, were better sound quality as separate companies. Once the (2) merged the SQ took a major hit.
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Only the most revealing systems show flaws as with any recording reproduction. Can be difficult concept, I know.
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both services, XM Radio and Sirius, were better sound quality as separate companies. Once the (2) merged the SQ took a major hit. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif[/IMG]
Sound quality is about as good or better than ever despite marketing people knowing forever people in general much prefer greater number of channels over quality.
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I just recently signed up for SXM a few weeks when they had the free preview over Thanksgiving. I got the $8.25 a month for a year deal with all of the channels plus streaming. Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I think the channels sound fine. I do have an Infinity sound system in my car, so I’m not sure if that’s the reason or not.

BTW, does anyone know if there’s a way to live stream the video portion of the Howard Stern show?
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BTW, does anyone know if there’s a way to live stream the video portion of the Howard Stern show?
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Cool SiriusXM not Sirius and/or XM

How many channels are still duplicated for the radios that can only tune Sirius or XM?
How difficult would it be to convert a single service radio to get both Sirius and XM channels with both codecs in tact?
Is it possible to update the radios to increase sound quality?
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How many channels are still duplicated for the radios that can only tune Sirius or XM?
How difficult would it be to convert a single service radio to get both Sirius and XM channels with both codecs in tact?
Is it possible to update the radios to increase sound quality?
Speaking as a retired programmer I would say a lot of time, expense, and effort on hardware and software on obsolete equipment making this the worst idea in the history of the Universe.
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Got an update to the streaming app and it said they added 100 new channels. Wow.
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Satellite radio upgrade?

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Got an update to the streaming app and it said they added 100 new channels. Wow.
If SiriusXM sees the future in the app can they remove channels from the satellite to increase SQ for those of us with old school radios?
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Got an update to the streaming app and it said they added 100 new channels. Wow.
Since this has not been explicitly stated, note that this is for the App/online version only (not the sats).

Remember they bought Pandora; they have literally unlimited channels available to them from the fixed Pandora stations; the number isn't constrained by bandwidth but by how many they can put in before user overload occurs.

To that end, these 100 are mostly minor variants on and combinations of existing channels. They are moving towards letting you pick a set of channels and creating your own custom (and presumably customizable via Pandora methods) stream.
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Since this has not been explicitly stated, note that this is for the App/online version only (not the sats).

Remember they bought Pandora; they have literally unlimited channels available to them from the fixed Pandora stations; the number isn't constrained by bandwidth but by how many they can put in before user overload occurs.

To that end, these 100 are mostly minor variants on and combinations of existing channels. They are moving towards letting you pick a set of channels and creating your own custom (and presumably customizable via Pandora methods) stream.
No such thing. Media marketing people have long known consumers in general prefer channel quantity over channel quality.
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Speaking as a retired programmer I would say a lot of time, expense, and effort on hardware and software on obsolete equipment making this the worst idea in the history of the Universe.


There are a few people who subscribe to SiriusXM who care about quality. The service has not retired and still works.

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All forms have gotten better over the years as compression algorithms have gotten better even while adding more channels. Subscriber base is now a record 34 million.
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