Originally Posted by SteelTownGuy
As always, thanks for the guidance. The extent of your testing on these machines is pretty remarkable.
I decided to start with a smaller project -- rather than the 6 hr recording -- to get accustomed to editing. I've trimmed down several shows (removing commercials) to the following:
- 35:02 (LP)
- 1:24:52 (LP)
- 2:40 (LP)
- 45:17 (SP)
- 27:42 (LP)
Well, I thought this would be an easier start at recording...then I realized I had an SP thrown in to complicate things.
My blank TY 8X DVD-R shows 4424MB available. If I try to throw all 5 titles on 1 disc, it will only allow an EP recording (unacceptable). I tried taking off the little 2:40 LP recording, but it still only fits in EP mode.
Next, I picked titles 1 and 2. They can barely
go on "SP" (4420MB / 4424MB) but does that even make sense to do? I mean, the original recording is "LP" so I don't see how re-recording at SP is going to improve the image quality.
I do have "Make Recording Compatible" turned on in the options. I was going to leave Auto Chapters "On" at 10 minute intervals to make navigating the disc a little easier.
How am I doing so far?
EDITED AND RE-POSTED... MADE A BASIC ERROR IN CALCULATING IN ORIGINAL POST!
First, I might have missed what you're saying... did you try JUST titles 1 and 2, or 1:59:54 LP time! If so, holy mackerel, must be a disconnect somewhere since that's not even close to the 3:20:00 or a little less I'd expect, even for heavily edited LP titles! YIKES!
Second, on to your problem regardless of #1 question...Here's the HSD help file that has a table showing "Max. HSD Times" for each rec mode.
You'll notice the Max.HSD Time for LP recordings is 3:20:00, which would add up to about 4405MB vs 4424 disc capacity.Your LP titles add up to about 2:29:36, leaving about 00:50:00 of LP time for a 45:17 SP title... here's where calculation gets difficult... that 50 min. is NOT 50 min. of SP time/disc capacity!
Now, we've got to figure out the correlation between 50 min. of LP time/capacity to SP time/capacity.
The 50-min LP time remaining is 25% of the total LP HSD time/capacity of 200 min. (3:20:00)... 50/200=0.25. Figuring the correlation between max LP time of 200 min. and max SP time of 130 min gives 65%... 130/200=.065.
So, SP time available is 65% of the 50 min. remaining, or 32.5 min. left for that 45:17 SP title.
Your SP title has to be cut down to 32 min. or possibly less, depending on how much editing you've done, as explained below... which you don't have to read... I just had all the following in my original post, and will only apply if you find even a 32-min SP title doesn't allow HSD with all the other LP titles.
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I found when a title is heavily edited, like with many Scene Deletes like my NFL football game with 36+ cuts, Max. HSD Time goes down a little. I was so proud when I got my beautiful NFL 3-1/2 hour+ game down to 2:09:xx, just under the unedited title time of 2:10:00 for SP... BUT it wouldn't go HSD. I kept trimming stuff in 10-15 sec increments and finally got to HSD with 2:08:00, so 2 minutes less than an unedited title.
Apparently, even tho HSD gets more on a disc than RTD cuz it doesn't need all the Overhead (OH) bits like a RTD does, heavy editing must be adding some of its OWN OH bits of some sort.
It appears you've run into a similar thing, except you've got FIVE titles that have been edited, prob. adding some additional OH.
I found that the jump to HSD can come with just a little trimming, and just a sec or two can make the difference... only bad part is I could never tell in advance how much trimming was needed in my tests... I developed the Max HSD Time chart by recording long and trimming just the end, in increments, till I got a "HSD" OK.
The 10-min. chaptering is ideal for providing editing help w/o getting into a "clashing chapter marker" situation, like I did when I was testing 5-min. chaptering plus heavy editing, which added more marks, etc.