Originally Posted by lt9999
There doesn't seem to be bad/good here as the two products are not the same. The Carl's product has a MUCH wider viewing angle and seems to have better color reproduction, plus its price point is 80% less. The DE is never imaged in anything except 10-15 degrees of off-axis. It likely rejects more room light than Carl's, but there are more considerations on a screen than that. I think a more appropriate comparison is between the DE and all of the other high-gain and expensive material out there.
Plus, I would put more consideration into shots like the one that you reposted if all of the DE guys weren't posting terrible imaging of their products. Are you seeing what I'm seeing in those shots? The image is horrifying blown out color and lacks sharpness. To me, all of the DE images posted look like this, even on their web page. I don't know how anyone would pay $2,000 for a DE screen based upon images like that.
All of the posted images I've seen so far on the Carl's looked great.
I would like to see a full workup of both full size screens at multiple angles using properly calibrated projectors on each under the exact same lighting conditions, which is what all of the screen suppliers should be doing. It's kind of weird that they don't.
Honestly, no, I'm not very good at seeing a lot of the things that people here are able to pick out, though what even I can clearly see is the MUCH deeper blacks and ALR (which is what we're all here for isn't it) in the quote from MM I posted.
Now you guys know the tricks and what to look for so I do appreciate the everyone's contribution. I think we just need to see more Carl's ALR shots, from those that don't have a vested interest in making it look bad (not suggesting foul play, just that it removes any chance of bias.
On the images you posted the colours DO look.... well I don't know, if it wasn't what you said about them, I'd only be able to say that they just don't look... right? But I wouldn't know why. It kinda looks like the grey wall I'm projecting against right now.
Originally Posted by Ftoast
For those unaware, DEabyss is in the ballpark of $800-1200 but size-limited to a 60inch height/122"-diagonal at 16:9 (at least until all the materials and the joiner are available and purchased at a larger size).
CarlsALR material is available up to a 116inch height/236"-16:9 with the 135" or smaller sizes costing around $160.
And this is possibly the main reason I'd have to keep my Carl's, not because of the cost but because DE doesn't have the sizes I need/want however, some of those colour shots aside, the nice deeper black and actual ALR abilities I think would command the price tag though I don't know how much it would cost to get the DEA DIY in 135" 16:9 diagonal.
What this thread needs is more Carl's ALR pics!!
I need to make a decision on whether to sell mine and just go ahead and just build the damn screens!