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Wall screen paint help: dedicated room, light controlled

Can't seem to find a solution after lots of searching. Painting a room now to be dedicated theater room. I have an Epson 5040UB Projector. The light will be completely controlled, and I am going to paint the other three walls and ceiling very dark. If I wanted to paint the front wall, what color and finish is best? Can it be normal house paint? My painters prefer Dunn Edwards if anyone is familiar with their colors and sheens.

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Can't seem to find a solution after lots of searching. Painting a room now to be dedicated theater room. I have an Epson 5040UB Projector. The light will be completely controlled, and I am going to paint the other three walls and ceiling very dark. If I wanted to paint the front wall, what color and finish is best? Can it be normal house paint? My painters prefer Dunn Edwards if anyone is familiar with their colors and sheens.

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This is what I used:

https://ca.rosco.com/en/product/tv-paint

and details of the paint type are given in the description.

This thread gives details on a recent HT screen paint with an HC5050:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/110-d...l#post58472312


BTW, an alternative to dark walls, is to add curtain rods and black drapes, which can be opened and tied off when you want a brighter room.
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Hi.....


The Rosco is good paint...but that's all, just paint. And pricey for just being paint.


There are ways to assemble a Screen paint using some of the preferred brands...but a truly high performance Screen paint has several ingredients, so for the Screen Wall, don't fudge, get something specifically intended to not just do it, but do it spectacularly.


Your painters would / will know a quality blended Mix when they use it. BTW....the choice of Rolling or Spraying will determine what Mix formula would be best. You want to spray for the ultimate results, but a excellent job rolling a heavier bodied version can be very exceptional as well.


When does all the work commence?


Here is one that is "only" sporting a Panny PT AE8000u
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I found a Theater Build of mine that was centered around painting an entire Wall AND used a 5040.




Pretty much the reference example your hoping to see.


https://www.avsforum.com/forum/110-d...will-come.html

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Thanks. Painting should be any day. I don't really have time to get special paint, so was hoping there was something I could just tell my painters to get. Still a bit confused...
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Thanks. Painting should be any day. I don't really have time to get special paint, so was hoping there was something I could just tell my painters to get. Still a bit confused...
Roscoe TVwhite is a matte vinyl acrylic grey paint (see the paint chip image in the link above) . I'm sure your painter can just add some grey to a matte acrylic white, but I'm sure that others know more about this.

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Well....let's see,

Your painting a Screen in what is a dedicated Theater............which would seem to indicate you want an experience that goes beyond simply watching a movie in a Family Room.

.............yet you want to select a paint you can have the Painters just grab off a shelf. That's not going to do you any justice at all, just get you finished.

Yes, a great many have gone down that road before, it's always tempting to just do it and be done....but we see so many come back with complaints and sour grape-like exclamations that a request like yours amounts to Fingernails on a Chalk Board!.


It's like this. You can get a Paint that will compliment your Room and Projector, and deliver results beyond your expectations. Or you can just tell them to get a basic acrylic "Interior Water Based (WB) Enamel" in a White Matte, and you'll get exactly what you paid for.....a "decent" Matte White surface that will give you a sharp image, but can do nothing to enhance your Colors or provide substantially deeper Black Levels.

It's important to know your Projector's capabilities.

The Epson 5040 does NOT deliver "Theater Quality" Blacks on a Matte White surface. The Blacks it does produce are acceptable to those who don't know anything else by which to judge, but really pretty poor if one actually can make a comparison between such Blacks as seen on a basic White and those seen on surface that has a Contrast Enhancing mix.

I like Epsons for their bright, crisp images, I've used them several times...but I also know and realize that something ALWAYS needs to be done to enhance their Blacks / Contrast. You see...it is their very brightness that works against the ability for them to produce deep blacks. A fully light controlled, non-reflective room is certainly a necessity that allows a 5040 to do it's best. But it's best is not something to be construed as being "the best" .

A dedicated Theater that is going to be dependent upon a Painted Wall for a Screen should not be something you simply rush out and use whatever is convenient. You simply cannot achieve the vibrant Colors, bright Whites, and deep Blacks that make a Theater experience be what it should be by using a basic White or Light Grey Paint.

If your short of time...don't waste any more time by trying to convince yourself of something you don't know much of anything about. Harsh? Nope...just a plea for understanding and acceptance that the advice you get on here is both informed and proven.

Read and absorb:
  • You can use this Dunn Edwards ( Wisp of Smoke DE6344 ) as it is a Cool Neutral color. It should be mixed into the aforementioned Acrylic Interior WB Enamel Flat or Matte.
  • The above paint...as is...is a light enough shade of Grey to prevent Whites from looking dulled, but Grey enough to at least enhance Blacks and Color depth a bit.
  • If you projected image is within 120" diagonal or less, and the Throw of the 5040 is optimized (...within 10% of the minimum throw required for that size...) your OK.
  • Make absolutely certain the Wall is smooth and free of defects (...bumps, ridges, scratches...) because a contrast enhancing Grey will highlight those blemishes.
The above at least grants your wish to consider the use of a DE paint. A smooth wall that is primed White (absolutely a requirement) and the WOS sprayed will be better than any Neutral White could possibly be.

Give yourself a couple extra days to assemble some needed additional components to add to the DE-WOS and you can achieve imagery akin to my posted examples. You do have those couple extra days since this is a Long Weekend. You could have a "special Paint" in your hands by/before next Wednesday. If I could know where you reside I could direct you to the local sources...and if not, it would have been worth the attempt in the least.

Please understand that all this is not an attempt to bend you to someone's will, but rather an attempt to see you achieve something special....that is what we want for every member...not just "Get by-s" and Make do-s". Certainly none of us advocate that you spend more than necessary.....but just the same it is a mandate that we suggest a course that will deliver exceptional results.

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Give yourself a couple extra days to assemble some needed additional components to add to the DE-WOS and you can achieve imagery akin to my posted examples. You do have those couple extra days since this is a Long Weekend. You could have a "special Paint" in your hands by/before next Wednesday. If I could know where you reside I could direct you to the local sources...and if not, it would have been worth the attempt in the least.
Thanks. I'm in Los Angeles. Happy to go on a hunt if I can get it done ASAP
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Thanks. I'm in Los Angeles. Happy to go on a hunt if I can get it done ASAP

Can these Painters of yours Spray on the Paints? (Walls / Ceilings / Screen Wall? )


I can have you all set before the end of the day tomorrow as far as sourcing the ingredients needed in creating a high performance Mix. You will still be using the Wisp of Smoke DE6344 in the suggested Base, but just how it will be mixed / made up will be determined by how it can be applied. Spray allows for the highest performance Mix. Rolling tampers down the performance, but if a expert job of Rolling is done, it's still going to be very good.

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Can these Painters of yours Spray on the Paints? (Walls / Ceilings / Screen Wall? )


I can have you all set before the end of the day tomorrow as far as sourcing the ingredients needed in creating a high performance Mix. You will still be using the Wisp of Smoke DE6344 in the suggested Base, but just how it will be mixed / made up will be determined by how it can be applied. Spray allows for the highest performance Mix. Rolling tampers down the performance, but if a expert job of Rolling is done, it's still going to be very good.
Yes I can have them spray it
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So would it need to be sprayed 6-8 times with drying between?

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Thanks. I'm in Los Angeles. Happy to go on a hunt if I can get it done ASAP

Can these Painters of yours Spray on the Paints? (Walls / Ceilings / Screen Wall? )


I can have you all set before the end of the day tomorrow as far as sourcing the ingredients needed in creating a high performance Mix. You will still be using the Wisp of Smoke DE6344 in the suggested Base, but just how it will be mixed / made up will be determined by how it can be applied. Spray allows for the highest performance Mix. Rolling tampers down the performance, but if a expert job of Rolling is done, it's still going to be very good.
Going out to get stuff now. If you see this, let me know! Otherwise I'll just do WOS sprayed on nicely and hope it's good
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Going out to get stuff now. If you see this, let me know! Otherwise I'll just do WOS sprayed on nicely and hope it's good

Just saw this....Holiday happenings and all. I made a couple inquiries as to sources you could simply go to locally (...well as "local" as anything can be in the LA Basin...)


If you can hold the painters off until Wednesday, you can order 2 Jars of the Paint below and receive them by Tuesday.
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-253610-Metallic-Accents-Paint/dp/B003EELN1O/ref=asc_df_B003EELN1O/


Also 1 quart of this:
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-26...dp/B00RZYE01O/


If that is possible, let me know and I'll continue on with further instructions. If not....all you can do is use the suggested WOS paint.

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Just saw this....Holiday happenings and all. I made a couple inquiries as to sources you could simply go to locally (...well as "local" as anything can be in the LA Basin...)


If you can hold the painters off until Wednesday, you can order 2 Jars of the Paint below and receive them by Tuesday.
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-253610-Metallic-Accents-Paint/dp/B003EELN1O/ref=asc_df_B003EELN1O/


Also 1 quart of this:
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-26...dp/B00RZYE01O/


If that is possible, let me know and I'll continue on with further instructions. If not....all you can do is use the suggested WOS paint.
I may be able to stall until then. The main thing is that I'm leaving town Wed morning, so I'll have to see if I can properly explain to my painters without having the products there. If I can, what do I do? It will be measurably better than the DE Gray you suggested or should I just keep it simple?
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Awwwww...what a question to ask me!



It would indeed be "considerably" better than any basic paint. That has been proven for several years a many 100s of Members own examples.


I would fish or cut bait asap....yesterday is already gone...and today will be the last chance to get Prime delivery by Wednesday.

Hello! I know I used the right link for White Pearl but now it comes up as Sea Shell.

Here is the right link again.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003EELN1Y/ref=twister_B003EELN2S?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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I'd like to jump in here p, rather than start yet another screen paint thread.

Same 5040 projector. My sitting position is about 12 feet from my eyes to the wall. Right now I've got the picture about 133" wide for 2:35:1 and around 120" wide for 16:9. Room has 8 ft ceilings and is painted "Steely grey" by Sherwin Williams. Flat on the walls, semigloss on the trim. https://www.sherwin-williams.com/hom...ngColors&p=PS0. I like the flexibility to switch between scope and 16:9 while making the picture as big as possible so I think now that wall screen paint is the best way to go.

Mississippi man, can you please list out the ingredients and mixing ratios to paint the wall section in the middle the light grey you speak of? The darker grey I have actually looks pretty good now. Can't wait to see what the lighter grey does. I have several higher end HVLP guns I paint cabinetry with so I am comfortable with spraying.

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I'd like to jump in here p, rather than start yet another screen paint thread.

Same 5040 projector.

Mississippi man, can you please list out the ingredients and mixing ratios to paint the wall section in the middle the light grey you speak of? The darker grey I have actually looks pretty good now. Can't wait to see what the lighter grey does. I have several higher end HVLP guns I paint cabinetry with so I am comfortable with spraying.

Thanks in advance!
The choices that you would have a and my recommendations would be based upon how much actual performance you're looking for.


The OP here was admittedly looking for as simple solution as possible that could be applied by painters who were unfamiliar with painting screens but were familiar with painting walls. Those same painters were going to be using commercial airless sprayers so their paint had to be something more akin to the consistency of normal wall paint. He also wanted something that he could acquire almost immediately and also using some components that were preferred by the painter. That was quite a bit limiting in-scope but still doable. In a case like yours where someone is willing to do the painting themselves, and has both the right type of equipment as well as some experience , I would suggest the use of either of the original Silver Fire v.2.5 or it's commercial equivalent Black Flame, either of which that would use very little if indeed any of the additional dark colorant.


Send me a private message, and we can discuss the particulars of your formula without overlay hijacking this thread and it's intended subject. Afterwards I think you'll feel more than free to author up your own thread detailing your own procedures and end results.


I would like to add that I am both impressed by your room and looking forward to ramping up you're viewing equation.

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Thanks for the positive comments on the room! It's been a work in progress for quite some time. A lot of work by me has gone in to it!

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Thanks for all the great info everyone! And I've tried the Rosco TV White Paint for other stuff in the past as a background, but it's too dark of a grey for my projector. I was wondering, @MississippiMan do you happen to have any recommendation on a Sherwin-Williams color (rather than the Dunn Edwards 'Wisp of Smoke' color you suggested)? I've been using a white screen that I bought from Fry's with my Epson projector a few years ago, but moved and am now going to make a bigger picture (120" 16x9) than what my screen was and so am going to paint the wall (just with rollers). Wondering because I have an untinted/unopened gallon of Sherwin-Williams Emerald Interior Acrylic Latex Paint that I bought on sale and have left over, which I plan on having tinted a lighter grey type color, though just not sure which color to go with.
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Thanks for all the great info everyone! And I've tried the Rosco TV White Paint for other stuff in the past as a background, but it's too dark of a grey for my projector. I was wondering, @MississippiMan do you happen to have any recommendation on a Sherwin-Williams color (rather than the Dunn Edwards 'Wisp of Smoke' color you suggested)? I've been using a white screen that I bought from Fry's with my Epson projector a few years ago, but moved and am now going to make a bigger picture (120" 16x9) than what my screen was and so am going to paint the wall (just with rollers). Wondering because I have an untinted/unopened gallon of Sherwin-Williams Emerald Interior Acrylic Latex Paint that I bought on sale and have left over, which I plan on having tinted a lighter grey type color, though just not sure which color to go with.
The Dunn Edwards 'Wisp of Smoke' recommendation was given to accommodate the Poster's request to use a Paint /Tint that his Painter's would be familiar with. However he followed my advice and added White Pearl & Polyurethane to his Paint to get at least a modicum of additional Gain out of the darker grey Wisp of Smoke. That, and his Painters are spraying it on.


If must Roll and you want to stay with a Sherwin Williams color, :
SW 7028 Incredible White

That is actually a light,very reflective Neutral Grey. Light enough to not suppress Whites or Colors, yet it will slightly lower your Black Levels....slightly.

Probably the best choice for you under the circumstances.

Just be advised that higher performance paint that provides substantially better contrast without impacting White /color brightness requires a Spray-on application because of the additionally needed components.

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Thanks for the suggestion! And this is a great starting point, though honestly I'm still not 100% sure what I'm going to do for painting it just quite yet (as I might dive in deeper with something more involved), but at least I have something to fall back on now just in case. Thanks!
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Thanks for the suggestion! And this is a great starting point, though honestly I'm still not 100% sure what I'm going to do for painting it just quite yet (as I might dive in deeper with something more involved), but at least I have something to fall back on now just in case. Thanks!

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Best wood/mdf/masonite to paint on

I also have the 5040 and going from screen to paint, but my wall is heavily textured and there's a window. So I need to build a frame, but what is the best option? I am going with around 180" 2.35:3 size. So buyiung 4' x 8' drywall and mudding/taping the seams, cut, is out of the question.
I was thinking of Masonite hardboard? but that would absorb moisture in the long run?

The optimum would be 1/2 thick 4 x 8 birch wood at $60 a panel and probably wouldn't need a frame, but would be EXTREMELY heavy, even though the finish is literally glass like smooth. So thinking just build a frame and use 1/8th thin 4' x' 8' plywood and of course frame it and frame top to bottom behind the seams as I would have to get 4 of them side by side.

Any thoughts?

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You should consider building your Frame from 2x4s and 2x3s, and the stretching a Matte White material such as Carl's Flexi-White across that Frame.

That will provide you with a suitable substrate on which to spray an applicable coating....one that will help contribute to the performance envelope of the 5050ub.

You certainly do not want to try to "Tile" 2 or more separate Boards. Both weight and the almost impossible tasks of hiding seams/joints, and keeping them hid over time makes any such plan unfeasible except for Commercial applications where the viewing distance from such a screen is so great that the seams would be hard to resolve.

I've made 200"+ screens in the manner above. Help and advice in the doing is available for the asking.

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