Originally Posted by MississippiMan
Painting a non-formatted Screen Wall basically lets you decide whatever size, whatever format, wherever you want to place the bottom of the screen..............determining what projector and it's placement location comes next, based upon the maximum size of 150" diagonal @ 2.39:1.Any set up that will accommodate the width needed for a given sized 2.39:1 will allow all the decision-making leeway you'll need in regard to the 16:9
Okay, that already changes things a little. I was just now laying out a 144" wide, 60" high area. Weather got stormy so I quickly ran to Lowes & bought some fresh mud. I dismantled and moved the dining room furniture away from the screen wall area (the foyer is ... uh, CHALLENGING
to navigate). I have a 6' level & another 6' straightedge, there are areas that are 1/8-3/16 low, so besides a skim coat there is a bit more work to do. It is just fidgity ...
What is the basis of the screen limitation? Output from the 5040? A quick calc shows my proposed numbers are 156" diagonal, so it really isn't so much difference. So a 58 vertical height (as opposed to 60) gets me in the proximity. No worries, but I am curious about the 150 limit (I always want to UNDERSTAND stuff!)
Yeah but.......how's about a measurement from the Floor to the top of the CC? That would be helpful. Also (...I may be asking repetitiously...) Ceiling height....supposed Seating distance, and maximum allowable width between the R&L Speakers. Are you considering stacking the HT-10s?
The HT-10s will be the 4 surround channels. At present (using the stand I built years ago) the top of the CC is 29" on the front edge, 27.5" as it backs to the screen... which puts it perfectly aligned. I am quite comfortable building a new stand as needed.
Ceiling is 10' so there is plenty of flexibility. As the wall is just over 16' wide, as I played around with it, they could be just outside of an image 144" wide and still have enough room from the side wall. And, of course, that's also why God gives us acoustical absorbers!
Seating distance is entirely discretionary. I'm about 10-11 feet screen-to-eyeball at present depending on recline, etc.
Don't get fixated on the "Dolby Specs". They are essentially guidelines based on specific rooms, so there is room to adjust accordingly to your specific application.
Yep, and toe-in adjustment helps with optimization.
Well Gee Whiz.....with the info asked for above supplied, (...and some exact room measurements / opening locations...) it will take me less than 5 minutes to give you an optimum choice
I can update my initial drawing to make it a little bit more clear, and throw in a few pictures as well. With the reorientation of the room, there will be a large opening to the left of the seating area (into the entrance foyer... as I said when I designed the house I used the location of the typical 'formal living room' for the theater), there are two windows with honeycomb blinds (mylar lined ... they are BLACKOUT!) to the right, and to the rear is another opening that goes to the kitchen/family room space.
It will be tough on us both if you must necessarily procrastinate. One such as myself, who knows well what the future holds in store for you, can hardly brook any delay.
As you likely have gathered, I am moving forward, my concern about the dining room furniture was made easier when I did more dismantling of things (doors off china cabinet, huge amount of glass and HEAVY ... so I could move it myself) and even taking the legs off the table (seats 8 comfortably with both leaves in) and I moved it out as well.
It will be wonderful for you to realize an image that will be worthy of your audio. Ab-sew-lootlee.
Now besides what I asked for and what you have already mentioned..........:
- Room Colors...A very dark Grey Ceiling is all that is needed....and if the Ceiling is currently Black, that will serve as a good primer for a dark grey...which works just as well but looks soooooo much better when the lights go up. I'm a big Fan of painting Walls a very Deep saturated Dark Red, and then complimenting the Ceiling by painting all the Trim the same shade of Grey only in a Oil Based Eggshell Enamel ---Classy! ---
- I can suggest some excellent Speakers for Atmos you could slide into easily AND extremely affordable. My goodness...I would NOT haul up short on installing at least 2 Atmos.
- Amplification: I have it on good account that very soon there will be some 9 Channel Denon 4500 receivers available...New, not refurb...for around $999.00
I will do 4 ceiling mounted atmos, never fear. I have planned 11 channels. Both the 4500 & 3600 process 11. I already have a 200x3 amp for LCR that I have been using for 15 yrs... nice old Acurus that never gets shut off. Caps are still good, although I need to tweek the bias voltage a little, actually I intend to replace the trim pots (a common upgrade on these). So that allows the receiver to do the other channels just fine. Once they start shipping again, I am inclined to go with the 3600 ... although they are going for full retail now, once they are shipping again and the economic crash gets serious, prices will come further down.
For atmos I am considering several different possibilities. I don't think that the expense of the DIYSG Volts are needed, there just isn't that much info in those. A decent set of in-ceiling speakers, WITH PROPER ORIENTATION towards the seating area, will do fine.
If there is anything else you want to address (Acoustic Panel Contruction...????) just post again.
Absolutely! As noted, I have several 'bales' of material I bought years ago ... I get a little repetitive when talking of my situation, but ... Apr 27, 2011 was Tornado Day as you well remember. Although AL got the brunt of it, MS, TN, & GA also had some. 6 weeks later my wife was diagnosed with cancer on a routine evaluation ...
... and the last 9 yrs have been a tangled mess. 5.5 yrs since her death and I still am not sure which side is up some days! Projects have been keeping me sane at times. I did a large (10kw) solar design & install at my place in the mountains, a massive undertaking that gave me focus.
Last fall I revisited this forum, actually looking at possibilities for replacement drivers for my 17 yr old A7-900 sub ... and have fallen back into this insanity since
It's weird ordering 7 speakers and building them without ever hearing them, but after watching enough of Ryan's videos I knew HE KNEW what he was doing. All the positive reports of the 1099s are justified. For $400ea in parts, they are exceptional, ESPECIALLY for those of us who tend to like MORE volume. It was a revelation listening to the SACD of Dire Straits the other night. No fatigue at high levels (I need to actually measure and see how loud I was listening!) and such clarity & dynamics ... wow. I have now watched Alien, Aliens, & Alien3 the past 3 nights as well. Pleased, 'nuf said!
I can address a few other things for you over the next few days because I'll be taking a break over this 3-day Holiday Weekend, and after Tuesday I will have wound down all the work that piled on me after the recent relaxing of Covig-19 dictates, and I'm gonna just kick back and enjoy life for a month or2...or3. I will turn 67 in mid-August, and one of my favorite Birthday presents to my self each year is a 8-10 day hideaway on Maui out toward Hana. Ain't no nuthin' gonna happen once I get there...'cept eatin' a whole lot of Fish!
You have 4 yrs on me ... where DID the time go?! I have an appt to see a specialist for my arthritic ankle. I know it needs a fusion, something I cannot figure out how I will handle on my own (8-12 weeks non-weight bearing post-op) but I decided I might as well mess around with the screen wall while I am able.
Q: when redoing the wall for screen, how flat should I shoot for. Obviously I hope to get it "perfectly" whatever that means, and that's on the agenda, but I was wondering what sort of tolerance we are looking for. I love having the 6' level & 6' straightedge, they really help with things like this.
Okay, time to walk the dog as it sounds like the storm has let up...