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post #1 of 35 Old 08-27-2006, 06:27 PM - Thread Starter
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I have completed our screen this weekend and we are completely satisfied. On the advise of MississippiMan and tiddler''s excellent work on this forum our DIY screen is COMPLETE. First was the WAF to overcome - once that was done I picked up the Infocus IN72 for cheap. After everything is said and done this project cost us around $1000, and that includes paint, wood, trim, material, Paint gun, compressor, air stapler and of course the IN72.

Room: 15x25 with windows up the kazoo!

4x8 White gloss Tileboard from Lowes

RS-MaxxMudd Formula as per pb_maxxx:
RS-MaxxMudd (for moderate ambient light)
8 oz. Delta Silver Metallic #02603
8 oz. Delta Pearl Metallic #02601
4 oz. UPW, Behr Ultra Pure White Flat Latex
2 oz. Delta Pale Metallic Gold #02624
7 oz. Minwax Clear Satin Polycrylic
5 oz. distilled


Below are screen shots during the day around 6 PM est and the last is of the screen at night.

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Sweet. How about some screenshots.

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Living room at 6pm what the photos do not show are the windows behind and to the back side of the room. During the day this room is very bright.
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These shots are taken with a old Sony digicam, the projector is in default mode with no adjustments, the photos are straight from the camera. I have also added a nightime shot which as you expected has deep dark blacks and at 14 feet no pixels.

The last two are at night with no lights on and one with a lamp to the side with 3-60 watt bulbs and one next the couch 15 feet directly behend the scrren with a 60 watt.

Thanks again for everyones help and assistance, this setup blows away the AE900 setup my brother in-law has. We returned our Sony 60" RP due to the blacks not really being black. This combo has taken care of this issue and added many inches to our enjoyment.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ivingroom4.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...groomNight.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...NightLight.jpg

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Looks great.
I was wondering if you would be able to twist the projector a half inch to the left and show us how great the screen is compared to the plain wall in ambient light .

I know how proud it would make MM and pbMaxx if you did this.:)

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Here are a few comparison shots of the new screen and the wall that you requested. No modifications - just trying to hold the camera still long enough!

It may be hard to tell - but the whites are brighter and the blacks are blacker. The ambient light pic shows you the great properties of this mix with all the lights on. The colors are richer and the whole screen pops more. I believe it is the combination of the paint and the frame. As my better half stated - "It looks like a giant plasma"

I hope this helps.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...pare-White.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...BlackWhite.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...bientLight.jpg

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Nice job man.

I love that trim work surrounding the velvet. WAF 100%
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Hmmmm........

That trim job looks very familiar. ;)

......and very nicely done. :D Wives always appreciate good taste.

I AM indeed proud of "you" and "your " effort. It was/is your work, done with your hands, based on info and suggestion you received. But without your effort, it's all just suppositionary conjecture. You made it all a "reallity".

Sincere congragulations are in order. And well deserved.

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Hmmmm........

That trim job looks very familiar. ;)

......and very nicely done. :D Wives always appreciate good taste.


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Thanks MMan. It was your PM's that convinced me to go with the RS-MaxxMudd and your photo showing a previous trim job was the last thing I need to convince the Miss's to finally get this done.

It is my understanding that over the next couple of weeks the screen should cure to be even better...is that true?

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Congrats on the new screen !

I think Bruce was actually hoping for comparison shots with typical movie images showing on both screen and wall ;)
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I think Bruce was actually hoping for comparison shots with typical movie images showing on both screen and wall ;)

OK - I have just taken a few pics of everyone's favorite movie FINDING NEMO!!!

These were taken today at 12:30PM full daylight....if you have seen our previous pics you will notice that we have many windows which creates a very bright room, 14' ceiling, white walls and no window treatments.

I hope this will satisfy most...it is a pain to climb a ladder 11' up to move the PJ. If not, make a request and I hope to accommodate.

I believe you can get the gist of the better overall color in a very bright room with a very cheap projector with these photos.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...nDaylight1.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...nDaylight2.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...nDaylight3.jpg

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BTW, did you spray or roll????
Since I'm terrible at BOTH, I'm gonna try this on artist canvas. Was gonna go SS 1:1:1 mix, but I may be doing more "ambient light viewing" than I anticipated, although nowhere near as much light as you've got w/ all those windows....

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BTW, did you spray or roll????....
Both! - I rolled over the white tileboard with MMUDD and when I found too many issues with roller marks and bugs landing on wet paint (nightmare – living in the South-East and bugs are everywhere). I picked up a compressor and gun and proceeded to sand completely smooth and then sprayed 3 coats of RS-MaxxMudd on top (with a fan going the whole time to keep bugs at bay).

It took two days to complete the painting and one for the frame. Tacked the board up for a week to view to see if it was something that we felt was good enough to install permanently in our living room. After testing we decided to finish the frame and hang with no regrets.

I have attached an extreme close-up photo of the corner of screen so you can see the texture.
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yubakram - could you give me a full wall shot of your screen/trim when you get a chance? I don't care if there is a movie on at the time or not ... I really just want to see how the trim looks on a big old wall. No hurry.

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yubakram - could you give me a full wall shot of your screen/trim when you get a chance? I don't care if there is a movie on at the time or not ... I really just want to see how the trim looks on a big old wall. No hurry.

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Here you go! I hope this is what you are looking for.
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Yuba,

Solid work!! Very impressive!! I hope to be joining you shortly. Been dealt numerous setbacks in my basement but I'm nearing the end. Hopefully by the end of September - knock on wood.

A few questions when you have time...

How long (timewise) start to finish on the screen?
Did you contemplate using a mirror?
If so why didn't you?
The tileboard, is it similar to polywall?
How big of a screen? 98"?

Thanks for your time and once again, excellent job!

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Love the room too! Very nice!
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A few questions when you have time...

How long (timewise) start to finish on the screen?
Two Days ( a weekend) - could do it in one day now that I know what I am doing, and one day for the frame.
Did you contemplate using a mirror?
[i]Yes, but could not find one locally, and the cost was too much to spend to ship.[/I]
If so why didn't you?
The tileboard, is it similar to polywall?
[i]No, this is 4x8' 1/4' wood fiberboard with a white (erase pen) surface - $10 Lowes. (cheap)[/I]
How big of a screen? 98"?
[i]A 4x8 foot sheet yields a 98" diagonal 16:9 screen. 48" high X 85" wide. The border extends further out.[/I]

Thanks for your time and once again, excellent job!

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This was a DIY project that I needed to be cheap on. As posted earlier the total cost of EVERYTHING is around $1000 including projector, and now I have a compressor, stapler and paint gun that I can do other things with.

It is the people on this forum that are pushing the envelope and experimentation that allowed me to accomplish this in a very short time. I have created a very nice setup in a very bright room. We do not have a room to dedicate to this (hmm....... at least until the kids move out), and this forum has allowed me to accomplish a wonderful viewing experience considering my setup. Thanks to all!

I hope this answers your questions.

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WOW!

One question for you?

How did you attach the white frame to the black border of your frame? This looks fantastic. I've thought about trying to do the wood frame but painting it black as the screen border.

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One question for you?

How did you attach the white frame to the black border of your frame? This looks fantastic. I've thought about trying to do the wood frame but painting it black as the screen border.
Easier than it looks. Home Depot - had them cut a 96x12" and 48x12" MDF boards in half ($11), so I had a 6" frame around the painted screen. Bought 2.5 yards of the Black fake suede from Walmart ($14). Cut the black stretch material in 4 equal lenthwise sections. Cut the MDF to the correct proportions and stapled the material on one side and flipped over the board and stapled the othe side - while streching and stapling. The trim from Lowes (4) 3X96" molding ($29) was stapled on top to cover the material seam with the 3.5" cubes at each corner. I drilled 4 drywall screws into the stud to mount to wall (two on top and two on bottom). Frame was painted with Home Depot UPW Satin ($12) beforehand and hole were puttyed and painted after mounting.

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So if I understand you the moulding buts up against the mdf wrapped with velvet? Is that 1/2 inch mdf and how did you do the corners did you mitre at 45 the mdf and then wrap? Looks really nice.
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Nice work! Nice room!

But, I think the white trim looks the best!!

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Here you go! I hope this is what you are looking for.
That was exactly what I was looking for. It looks very classy in your room.

Thanks,

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That's awesome! $1k on top of you pj price! ...-j
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I picked up the Infocus IN72 for cheap.
Just curious, How much did you pay for your IF IN72, and how much did you pay for you DIY screen (I'm sorry, was it just under 1K for the screen only?) -j
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After everything is said and done this project cost us just under $1000, and that includes paint, wood, trim, material, Paint gun, compressor, air stapler and of course the IN72.
From the initial post.
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very quick tid, but I find that very hard to believe at that price point for all things considered: $1K for a pj and a completed composite mixed painted DIY screen?

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How much did you pay for your screen, including your mixture of paints, materials,tools and framing materials?
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So if I understand you the moulding buts up against the mdf wrapped with velvet? Is that 1/2 inch mdf and how did you do the corners did you mitre at 45 the mdf and then wrap? Looks really nice.
Did not mitre the ends,
1) Cut the 6" wide MDF to size
2) Wrapped and stapled the material to MDF including the ends
3) Butted up the ends tightly to form a 90 degree and screwed a metal L strap on back to hold in place while squaring up entire frame.
4) Stapled the 4x8' screen to back (this is what makes the frame rigid)
5) Turned frame over to front and stapled the white painted trim to outside MDF covering the stapled seam of the fabric.
6) Hung on wall with (4) 3' Drywall screws, plugged and painted.
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Thanks for the cut away frame shot. I think you helped me into figuring out my project. You see I need an ultralight frame that can be taken up and down due to a closet behing the screen.

I may use the moulding and square corners like you did except paint it black for the screen border and somehow stretch and paint a fabrice screen behind it and stretch it to the frame.

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very quick tid, but I find that very hard to believe at that price point for all things considered: $1K for a pj and a completed composite mixed painted DIY screen?

Yuba-
How much did you pay for your screen, including your mixture of paints, materials,tools and framing materials?
Thank you -j

Just went thru my reciepts and here is the breakdown

$705 IN72 Projector
$58 Paints (Home Depot, Michael’s)
$11 White Tile Board 4’x8’ (Home Depot)
$43 Trim (Lowes)
$11 MDF (Home Depot)
$11 Hardware (Home Depot)
$12 Black Fake Suede (Walmart)
$95 Compressor (Sears) return
$45 Staple Air Gun (Home Depot) refurb
$25 Spraygun - (local shop) used

$1016 Total for project

I previously quoted just under $1000.. and have edited those post to be "around $1000"...I hope this helps

This was accomplished over two weekends but knowing what I know now - this can be done in one long day if you have all the materials needed and not be running back to the stores. While the paint is drying between coats, the frame can be built.

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