Originally Posted by ScooterMcBean
This is my first post here, but I've spent a few days reading all your wonderful posts about paint tints and the search for the "holy grail" of gray paint. I think I have decided to use TrueValue Winter Mountain as it is very close to N8 and is D65 neutral. I have a True Value store near me, but no Home Depot. I do have a Lowes if there's a better alternative there.
Here's the skinny, and I'm open to your recommendations:
BenQ 8220 PJ, a few years old. We had it up with a 124" wide screen (you do the diagonal, it's meaningless to me at that size). We're building a new house, and the throw will be about 18', so the image will be about the same size. The previous setup was on the ever-popular Behr UPW. It washed out very easily, and we don't want that again...hence the gray.
Screen is on the north side of the room, there are 2 windows on the west side, one near the screen wall, one at the back of the room. A door near the screen wall on the East side, and one at the back of the room, also on the east side. The windows will be able to be covered with blackout cloth or some other light blocking material, so they're not a concern...but the doors are not able to close, they're just cased doorways. There are 3 more windows on the south side of the room, about 30' from the screen wall.
The boss likes to have "a little" light on while watching TV, hence the N8 choice. That "little" light will be provided by extremely controllable pot lights (9 zones in the room).The questions:
1) Should I paint the whole wall the same color? It's 11' high and 20' wide. The screen will be dead center on the wall.
2) What about the ceiling? I will NOT
get away with painting it black. Probably not even gray, but I thought I would ask.
3) What about the other walls in the room? I wouldn't be opposed to painting the entire thing a neutral shade of gray...perhaps an N7, but the family who will visit will complain about having such a big room and painting it "like a cave." We don't want to live with that.
4) I don't think I want to put a border around the screen. I thought I'd get some feedback from you folks and see what you think. Here's my reasoning: Aspect ratios. We watch 4:3, 16:9, and whatever else the media supports (widest aspect available in the disc). The pj is also used from time to time to show pictures or other computer content, so we're not prepared to be dedicated to a widescreen only. The borderless screen appeals to me because there will be only the edge of the projected image to act as a border and my eye won't be distracted by the 4:3 screen lines while watching a widescreen image. Thoughts?
5) What about my color choice? TV Winter Mountain. What base should I use? Interior or Exterior? Sheen? (I know...as flat as possible)
Thanks in advance for your advice!
Sorry ScooterMcBean! I missed this post and your questions.
First let me say welcome to the DIY Screen forum!
With regards to the shade of gray, I would be careful not to go too dark. N8 is great for a bright presentation projector but may not be so great for the 8220 with a lot of hours on the bulb. You may want to compromise between an N8 and an N9. here are some True Value tints that are in that range:
200 201 201 - 1982 WINTER MOUNTAIN
216 218 216 - 1991 MIDTOWN GRAY
220 220 220 - 1983 WINTER MIST
217 220 219 - 2007 QUIET GRAY
221 222 222 - 1999 PEARL GRAY
220 224 222 - 1695 WINTER FROST
225 228 227 - 1984 CULTURED GRAY
1. You could paint the whole wall but a darker border does enhance the look of the image. You could make a border or do something artistic using the room colors:
By not having any border the screen does disappear when not in use. It is however replaced by a large empty area on the wall. You could do something artistic with lighting in that area to make it more attractive when the projector is off. here is a very simplistic example:
2. While is is ideal to have a blcak ceiling, at least in the area directly in front of the screen, it is often not something the boss will agree to. You can be creative though. Either paint the ceiling a lighter gray or slate blue, or possibly implement concentric half circles of lighter shades of one of the room colors radiating out from the screen.
3. I have seen many theater rooms painted mid to dark blue, burgundy, brown, etc. Anything darker than white is an improvement. The light from the screen will reflect off the side wall and then the back wall. If the side walls are matte they will reflect light back as well. I would suggest you paint the opposite wall a very dark accent color with a matte finish. The side walls can be lighter but use an eggshell or even semi-gloss to keep that light moving away from the screen.
4. While I do recognize the reasons for a border I tend to agree with you. If you are not going to implement some form of masking then just leave the border off. Paint the whole wall.
5. As I said earlier N8 may be a bit dark. It is a large screen and an older projector. I think I would be leaning towards Winter Mist or maybe the PEARL GRAY. As far as sheen goes, if you have no plans to top coat in any way then I would stick to a flat washable finish. The EZ Kare Flat is said to be scrub able. I am leaning towards the exteriors paints for their durability and UV resistance. The Prestige and NEW! WeatherAll®
Aluminum & Vinyl Siding Paint paints are interesting to me but I have not heard of anyone using them.
You may want to investigate the paints available at Lowes. There may be better quality paints (Valspar?) in a scrubable flat-enamel. The Lowes people are supposed to be able to enter many other color codes from different brands and the computer will make up the correct tint.
You have a lot of windows! You will need to find a way to block them off. If the windows are set in a box then roller blind s can work very well and allow for other more decorative window dressing.