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the BD release has been pushed back a month (while they sell it at Best Buy i think)

hopefully DVD-A is still on track

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I pre-ordered this from Amazon US and the price is $26.51 and has a release date of May 3rd. Originally it was April 5th when I placed the pre-oreder. I went to Best Buy yesterday and confirmed that my local store will have 15 of these on Tuesday. The BB price is $19.99. I am cancelling my order with Amazon and getting it on Tuesday from BB. Can't wait.
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Just got my ship notification for the DVD-Audio from Amazon.

Now to commence refreshing the tracking page every 20 minutes.
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Just got my ship notification for the DVD-Audio from Amazon.

Now to commence refreshing the tracking page every 20 minutes.

Same here, except I'll be waiting patiently without tracking, since it's USPS anyway.

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*grrrr* where is mine!!

IT SHIPPED!!!!

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c'mon mr. mailman, deliver early today... i tip you well every year at the holidays for days like this...

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Just reserved a copy at the local Best Buy, and they're open right now!! Back soon w/first impressions...

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My mail won't arrive for 5 more hours but the Best Buy down the street opens in 90 minutes...tough call.

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^^^

lol... i hear you... i'm headed home for lunch, and the best buy is on the way...

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I just picked up the Blu Ray version of this album at Best Buy. They also have the DVD-Audio version for $17.99. I have listened to about half of the album in DTS-MA and it is outstanding. The mix is a little strong to the rears but overall very well balanced. The low end is amazing and will deffinately work your subs. There is a lot of low end from the center channel. I have a powered sub in series with my center and it is noticable. The sound overall is very open. I really enjoy this format. I have the Tom Petty releases as well and compared to the large selection of SACD and DVD-A's that I have I'd have to say the Blu Ray's are better. Navigation is a little tough initially. You need to turn on your TV so you can set the audio choice but once you do this I don't think you'll need to have the TV on to set this up. I have a Harmony One and even using the audio button it is a little slow to find the DTS-MA. The video's are OK. Older footage of the band in 4:3 but the audio is DTS-MA. Overall I am very pleased with this disc. I will see what the regular CD sounds like but I do not expect it to compete with the surround sound mix. I can only hope that more music is released in this format. I'll be interested to see what others think of this. Enjoy.
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Just ordered a copy for pick-up which I will do on my way home tonite. Can't wait to hear the 5.1 copy in my TL. Is the 5.1 DVD-Audio or just PCM (CD)?? Thanks for the heads-up on this. Either way, it's going to sound awesome in my car and at home.

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Dvd audio arrived by UPS.Nice overall package.My Panasonic always says on screen what every disc is and on startup DVD audio popped up in top corner. Have not done too much navigation yet,too busy just listening. It is very nice.
I need a report back on sound in the TL.
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Bought a copy of each version today from BB. Just finished playing the 5.1 PCM track on the BD version, and it was incredible to say the least. To think that this album is some 30-odd years old now...It seems they learned a lot of lessons from the Snakes and Arrows sessions when it comes to doing a proper 5.1 mix.

The videos were okay too. It was nice to see the clip for "Vital Signs" again after so long. And prior to getting this disc, I had never seen the studio clip for "Tom Sawyer" before.

In my starting post for this thread, it was mentioned that they were also working on a surround mix for Vapor Trails. I'd like to think that, if they can do even half as good a job on that as they did for this one, it's possible they might roll out other catalog titles in 5.1. Ah, one can only hope...

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^^^

i'd just settle for a proper 2 channel mix of vapor trails...

you guys are convincing me to leave work early this afternoon...

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i'd just settle for a proper 2 channel mix of vapor trails...

you guys are convincing me to leave work early this afternoon...

You're not looking too good--I think you should leave work a little early.

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I just picked up the Blu Ray version of this album at Best Buy. They also have the DVD-Audio version for $17.99. I have listened to about half of the album in DTS-MA and it is outstanding. The mix is a little strong to the rears but overall very well balanced. The low end is amazing and will deffinately work your subs. There is a lot of low end from the center channel. I have a powered sub in series with my center and it is noticable.

This was my biggest worry--would they actually have any bass in the recording as opposed to other Rush attempts which sucked in the bass department. Now I'll have to go pick this one up!
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You're not looking too good--I think you should leave work a little early.

only 5 more minutes to go anyway here in the toxic waste dumps...

and it had BETTER be there when i get home, as it wasn't when i went home at lunch... i'd hate to have to run back out to best buy...

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i'd just settle for a proper 2 channel mix of vapor trails...

you guys are convincing me to leave work early this afternoon...

I was listening to "Secret Touch" off of Vapor Trails yesterday and the distortion was so bad in the latter part of the song that I had to turn down the stereo.This album has some of Rush's best songs, but they are just plain unlistenable and even the band knows it. The album has become almost an embarrassment for the group as it is the poster child for the loudness wars. From wiki:

"In an interview with Modern Guitars, Lifeson remarked that since the remixes were so good, there has been talk of doing an entire remix of the album.[5] He also stated:

It was a contest, and it was mastered too high, and it crackles, and it spits, and it just crushes everything. All the dynamics get lost, especially anything that had an acoustic guitar in it."

On February 4, 2011, the band announced that they would be remixing Vapor Trails in its entirety.[6]
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Went to my local BB to pick up a Bluray copy and they were already sold out!, and that was around 1:00pm. I'm thinkin' " Did you only order 5 copies for stock!? Geez!" Went back to the office and ordered it on Amazon.
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.This album has some of Rush's best songs, but they are just plain unlistenable

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On February 4, 2011, the band announced that they would be remixing Vapor Trails in its entirety.[6]

- true dat... i didn't even bother to rip it, it's so bad...

- WOOOOO!!! i'll be on the pre-order list for that one...

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Hitting F5 on the tracking page every 5 minutes.

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First things first:

Wow.

Having just spent the morning with Moving Pictures on Blu-ray, I can say that they got it right all over again. This fabulous album is brand-new. From the opening synth growl in Tom Sawyer to final fade in Vital Signs you’ll be treated to something that is truly special.

The surround mix is magnificent. Your rear speakers get plenty of work, but never fear; this mix is a companion unobtrusive , there but never obnoxious. It’s aggressive where it fits the music (the opening synths and percussion in Witch Hunt), occasionally playful (the triangle that opens YYZ), but never gimmicky. You’ll be glad if you sprung for matching mains and surrounds.

Those (like me) that have bemoaned the neutered bass on previous Rush releases have cause to rejoice: it’s here in spades. Full, focused, never bloated, and present in amounts that will shake the rafters, we finally have a Rush release that will satisfy even the most ardent Ged-heads.

Neil’s drums are mixed as if watching him play from the audience, with high toms to the right. All the famous jaw-dropping fills that audiences have come to know and love are reproduced here in thunderous clarity. The drum sound is that of the era, of course, and Neil would probably wish that the open sound of his DW kit circa 2011 was captured here, but that’s part of the fun of remixing a classic.

Alex’s guitars are loud and proud, just like a good rock record ought to be. The effect is a full room sound that had this listener grinning for the entire 40 minutes this gem of a record runs.

Run, don’t walk, to your get your copy.

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Thanks for the review, Dave.

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I'm only through one song but I'm agreeing with Dave-the rear mix is evident but not distracting. And yes, the bass is definitely there. Digging it so far.

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I've only thus far listened to some 96/24 stereo MLP tracks off of the DVD, and I am happy with the quality. Good dynamic range, excellent detail and smooth transitions in channel separation.

I completely agree with Dave about the lower frequencies; bass is well defined and instruments are easily differentiated.
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dvd-a version here...

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First things first:

Wow.

yea. wow is right.

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The surround mix is magnificent. ... You'll be glad if you sprung for matching mains and surrounds.

true dat, on both counts...

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Those (like me) that have bemoaned the neutered bass on previous Rush releases have cause to rejoice: it's here in spades. Full, focused, never bloated, and present in amounts that will shake the rafters, we finally have a Rush release that will satisfy even the most ardent Ged-heads.

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Alex's guitars are loud and proud, just like a good rock record ought to be. The effect is a full room sound that had this listener grinning for the entire 40 minutes this gem of a record runs.

yes, yes, yes! this is done "right". it's sounds just like a record from that era should. visceral and raw, in a very good way. the bass hits you. the guitar sounds like an electric guitar "should".

i would have been VERY disappointed had it been otherwise...

the "full room sound" is a good descriptive comment. however, i cannot tell a lie, it took a bit longer to run through it than that for me... i didn't have the willpower to listen straight through, i HAD to listen to yyz and limelight a few extra times...

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Run, don't walk, to your get your copy.

don't run... DRIVE!

to add to what i stole from dave... the videos are quite cool... neat to see them in the studio like that... only bad thing is that they made me feel rather, umm, aged...

like all of you, i was looking forward to this a great deal, and i am not in the least bit disappointed...

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I'm going for the hat trick on "Vital Signs"-one of my favorites, and in the name of science I even managed to listen to the first track on the disc...

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Grabbed a DVD copy from BB put it in the Acura TL and it read DVD-A , great start .Listened throught it and loved it all , YYZ was exceptional in my opinion.
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Grabbed a DVD copy from BB put it in the Acura TL and it read DVD-A , great start .Listened throught it and loved it all , YYZ was exceptional in my opinion.

agreed...

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good things come to those who wait

they aren't sending it by boat, hopefully tho.

Boo!
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