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What Is The New Super Audio Cd HYBRID 3 Technology?

A SACD Is A High Resolution Audio CD with a Difference!

Since Hi-Res Audio is now the best possible way to listen to music, for those of you that don't want to mess with the downloads but want to get the same Hi-Res quality, Sony and Philips Electronics have developed a way to get that High-Resolution Audio quality to play on a CD. The Super Audio CD - or SACD for short, is a optical audio disc designed to provide a much higher audio quality than that supported by the CD-Digital Audio format. In other words, you always get exactly what the original artists intended.

Super Audio Compact Discs (SACD) The Next Generation Music Carrier


The new Super Audio Compact Disc format, created by Sony and Philips, provides unprecedented sound quality in stereo and discrete multi-channel surround. To achieve its sonic performance, SACD employs DSD, a radically new digital encoding technology. DSD samples the musical signal at a phenomenal 2.8 million times a second, 64 times the amount of a traditional CD. The result is an extremely smooth digital waveform with unparalleled frequency response and dynamic range.


Houston, We Have A Problem


Although these new Super Audio CDs sounded amazing, there has been one problem. You couldn't play SACDs in a regular CD player! It would only play in a high priced SACD player. So in the last few years the Super Audio CD Hybrid Disc has been developed. A Hybrid SACD was designed to be completely compatible with the millions of CD players in the market today. Hybrid SACDs actually contain two complete layers of music information. One layer contains the high density DSD/FLAC recording that can be played in the new generation of stereo and surround SACD players. The other layer is a conventional CD layer, which can play on any CD player. Now with the development of the Super Audio Compact Disc™ (SACD), which utilizes the extraordinary Direct Stream Digital™ (DSD) recording technology, the foundation exists to launch a new era of High-Resolution Audio FLAC & DSD format recordings on the Super Audio Hybrid CD.


The Problem With The Hybrid Disc Kept Lurking


Although the Hybrid Disc solved the problem of only being able to play Super Audio CDs on pricey SACD Players and not being able to play them on all regular CD players, another issue was lurking. When you play a SACD Hybrid on a standard CD player, you're not getting the benefit of hearing the music in High-Resolution Audio because only the conventional CD layer is being used and not the Hi-Res DSD layer. Therefore, you only get to hear the Hi-Res Audio format if you play it on a SACD Player.


Introducing The New HYBRID 3 Technology Super Audio CD


Now the problem has been solved with the New HYBRID 3 Super Audio CD. With the newly developed HYBRID 3 technology, you can not only play it on All CD players, but now you're able hear it in Hi-Res Audio quality even playing it on your standard CD player just like the expensive SACD Players! So you truly get the best of both worlds. The New HYBRID 3 is compatible with all CD players and can be played on SACD Players and all standard CD players. Not only that, even if you're playing it on your regular CD player, you are still getting the same High-Resolution Audio quality as you would playing it on a SACD Player.


The New HYBRID 3 Super Audio CD Uses 3 Layer Technology




The ingenious newly developed HYBRID 3 incorporates 3 CD layers and intertwines and combines them to produce and make it possible to play Hi-Res Audio quality, DSD format on any CD player. The first layer contains the high density DSD/FLAC recording for the SACD Players. The second layer is the conventional CD layer to make it possible to play on standard CD players. The third layer is the finished product, a combination of the first two layers utilizing both concepts to produce the final result. The HYBRID 3 Super Audio CD!




So start listening to your music the way the artist's intended for you to hear it. The best way possible with High-Resolution Audio. Listen to it like you were right there in the studio with the musicians. Start by building your Super Audio CD [SACD] collection by checking out the New HYBRID 3 SACD's.
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They might as well go ahead and tell you you're listening to high res audio, it's not like you can hear the difference between SACD and CD with the same mastering anyway.
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It's interesting that the OP just joined AVS and his first post is to wax on about a new disc format. A little suspect ...

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Great as it sounds, it seems a little bit late for a new format to save SACD/high rez. That ship has sailed long ago. I'm surprised they even sell regular CDs still.
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Oh... Just lock or delete this pointless topic!
C'mon man! At least let me finish my freshly popped double butter popcorn before the thread is locked or deleted .

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Early APRIL FOOLS DAY!!!!

It is very unlikely that existing CD Players would READ all the way down to the new, third layer....and even if they DID read down THRU the Second CD (Red-Book) layer, further DOWN to the new third layer, there is NO WAY that existing CD Players could make any SENSE of something in a NEW "COMBINED" FORMAT....and NO WAY an existing CD Player would OUTPUT that NEW FORMAT via the existing Digital Optical [or HDMI] Interface....nor would an AVR attached via Optical [or HDMI] Inteface make any sense of that NEW FORMAT. I also suspect they would have the same TOO THICK problem that many DUAL-DISCs have, making them incompatible with SOME but not ALL CD Players....

Also note the obvious ERROR in describing the First SACD Layer as being in "SACD/FLAC" format....FLAC is an entirely DIFFERENT Lossless COMPRESSED Digital Audio Format and has NOTHING to do with SACD Uncompressed Digital Audio Format.

ONLY other places I found [+"HYBRID 3" Super Audio CD] using Google....DUPLICATE articles posted same day or day after the above post....and again was first ever post by same user name:
https://www.reddit.com/user/DMSenter...brid_3_cd_sacd
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threa...chnology.27664
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I just bought one of these and it's like night and day! The sound is liquid and the music is more musical. It's like a veil is lifted! Even my wife commented that it sounded better... etc.
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Why, I'm listening to it right now!
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They posted a clip on YouTube and I can easily hear the difference.
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The numbers are bigger... it MUST sound better!
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LOL, a few days early, but hey, happy April 1.
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A SACD Is A High Resolution Audio CD with a Difference!

Since Hi-Res Audio is now the best possible way to listen to music, for those of you that don't want to mess with the downloads but want to get the same Hi-Res quality, Sony and Philips Electronics have developed a way to get that High-Resolution Audio quality to play on a CD. The Super Audio CD - or SACD for short, is a optical audio disc designed to provide a much higher audio quality than that supported by the CD-Digital Audio format. In other words, you always get exactly what the original artists intended.

Super Audio Compact Discs (SACD) The Next Generation Music Carrier


The new Super Audio Compact Disc format, created by Sony and Philips, provides unprecedented sound quality in stereo and discrete multi-channel surround. To achieve its sonic performance, SACD employs DSD, a radically new digital encoding technology. DSD samples the musical signal at a phenomenal 2.8 million times a second, 64 times the amount of a traditional CD. The result is an extremely smooth digital waveform with unparalleled frequency response and dynamic range.


Houston, We Have A Problem


Although these new Super Audio CDs sounded amazing, there has been one problem. You couldn't play SACDs in a regular CD player! It would only play in a high priced SACD player. So in the last few years the Super Audio CD Hybrid Disc has been developed. A Hybrid SACD was designed to be completely compatible with the millions of CD players in the market today. Hybrid SACDs actually contain two complete layers of music information. One layer contains the high density DSD/FLAC recording that can be played in the new generation of stereo and surround SACD players. The other layer is a conventional CD layer, which can play on any CD player. Now with the development of the Super Audio Compact Disc™ (SACD), which utilizes the extraordinary Direct Stream Digital™ (DSD) recording technology, the foundation exists to launch a new era of High-Resolution Audio FLAC & DSD format recordings on the Super Audio Hybrid CD.


The Problem With The Hybrid Disc Kept Lurking


Although the Hybrid Disc solved the problem of only being able to play Super Audio CDs on pricey SACD Players and not being able to play them on all regular CD players, another issue was lurking. When you play a SACD Hybrid on a standard CD player, you're not getting the benefit of hearing the music in High-Resolution Audio because only the conventional CD layer is being used and not the Hi-Res DSD layer. Therefore, you only get to hear the Hi-Res Audio format if you play it on a SACD Player.


Introducing The New HYBRID 3 Technology Super Audio CD


Now the problem has been solved with the New HYBRID 3 Super Audio CD. With the newly developed HYBRID 3 technology, you can not only play it on All CD players, but now you're able hear it in Hi-Res Audio quality even playing it on your standard CD player just like the expensive SACD Players! So you truly get the best of both worlds. The New HYBRID 3 is compatible with all CD players and can be played on SACD Players and all standard CD players. Not only that, even if you're playing it on your regular CD player, you are still getting the same High-Resolution Audio quality as you would playing it on a SACD Player.


The New HYBRID 3 Super Audio CD Uses 3 Layer Technology




The ingenious newly developed HYBRID 3 incorporates 3 CD layers and intertwines and combines them to produce and make it possible to play Hi-Res Audio quality, DSD format on any CD player. The first layer contains the high density DSD/FLAC recording for the SACD Players. The second layer is the conventional CD layer to make it possible to play on standard CD players. The third layer is the finished product, a combination of the first two layers utilizing both concepts to produce the final result. The HYBRID 3 Super Audio CD!




So start listening to your music the way the artist's intended for you to hear it. The best way possible with High-Resolution Audio. Listen to it like you were right there in the studio with the musicians. Start by building your Super Audio CD [SACD] collection by checking out the New HYBRID 3 SACD's.



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I'm not going to believe it sounds any better until Mr. Tin Ears, Stereo-Julian Hirsch says so....

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You're about 15-years too late....but perhaps you can use Hollywood Medium Tyler Henry to make contact with Julian:
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/tav/vol.../editorial.htm
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You're about 15-years too late....but perhaps you can use Hollywood Medium Tyler Henry to make contact with Julian:
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/tav/vol.../editorial.htm

I know. I was trying to be funny...

Mr Tin Ears Hirsch though everything sounded the same. Or trying to say some Radio Shack receiver was really better than an Audio Research or some other high end brand because he measured lower THD on it. I bet Harry Pearson is in Heaven or Valhalla right now telling jokes about Stereo Julian & his tin ears..

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He was probably right. But measurements don't really matter. Most home electronics are transparent to human ears. Speakers and headphones sound different.
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I object to the phrase "expensive SACD players". You can get a bluray player which plays SACDs as well as BRs and other formats for under $200. Are plain vanilla CD players even made any more? And, I doubt that an legacy CD player could take advantage of this new format.
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