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Symphonic Music of Yes (Dolby Surround)



I picked this old CD up at discogs, and I'm glad I did. It's a Dolby Surround encoded CD recorded in 1993 with orchestral arrangements of Yes songs. In fact, Jon Anderson, Bill Bruford and Steve Howe all appear on the album, and it was produced by Alan Parsons and Howe. It reminds me a lot of the second side of Yellow Submarine crossed with Parson's House of Usher. The arrangements are quite good and hearing songs like Heart of the Sunrise with an orchestra is a bit like Procol Harum's Conquistador on the live album.. it totally works as an orchestral piece. The surround is very good and sounds good loud. It doesn't replicate a natural symphonic acoustic, but with this music, it shouldn't. Lots of fun touches where the sound field changes to follow the arrangement. There are even some bird chirping sound effects tossed into to one of the songs. Definitely worth getting. I found that it decoded best with DTS Neo:6 Music, but Dolby II Music was good too. I've got Symphonic Music of the Rolling Stones too, but I haven't listened to it yet. That one has vocals by Marianne Faithful. There are some really great sounding Dolby Surround CDs out there, and it's easy to scoop them up cheap used.

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Thanks, just ordered one!
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Well, I got my disc and gave it a listen. I have to say it is disappointing on my 5.1 system, so I'm interested in others' experience with the Dolby surround. The centre channel is prominent but the sound from LRF and surrounds is weak. My settings (Denon x2200w) are good for all other content so I don't want to go and make major adjustments just to play this disc. I am playing it on a Yamaha BDP and the receiver shows Multi-ln as input so it is reading it as surround. Selecting Dolby Surround makes no difference. The music is great, but I may just play it in stereo if this is as good as it gets for surround. Experiences?
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My Yamaha amp defaults to regular two channel stereo. You have to select a decoder by pressing the Surround DSP button a few times to select the one you want. Try the DTS Music DSP, and switch back and forth between that and 2 channel stereo and you'll hear the difference. There is a lot more depth and it gets a nice natural orchestral acoustic. It's an overall sound field effect, not whiz bang sound coming from all corners. Your room should sound larger with more depth.

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I have the Symphonic Music of Yes CD and listened to it once in surround. Nothing special as far as the music and the surround effect. Never listened to it after the initial listen. There are quite a few Yes albums in actual surround with many of those 5.1 mixes in hi-res by Steven Wilson. Money much better spent on those titles than this one IMO.

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I'm not going to complain about the cost of a three dollar CD!
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I'm not going to complain about the cost of a three dollar CD!
The surround mix was coming through the speakers, just not strong. I'll play with it a bit more, but not hopeful. Agreed, it was worth the few dollars I paid, and I do prefer my Steven Wilson surround mixes that cost me much more. I listened to it in stereo today and it is a nice alternative.
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You're listening for something different. This isn't like the Steven Wilson mixes, it's matrixed surround. The idea isn't that sound comes at you from all sides. It's that you get a solid front soundstage with added depth. It's like stereo with an acoustic space around it. It's more like classical multichannel recordings than ping pong rock ones. Using your AVR, toggle between DTS Music and straight stereo and you'll hear exactly what it's doing. It may be that your speaker setup doesn't render sound fields well. The fronts and the rears need to be able to mesh in the middle. That won't work if there is furniture between you and the rears, or if the rear speakers are smaller than the mains. If it works, you get a really sumptuous enveloping orchestral sound.
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You're listening for something different. This isn't like the Steven Wilson mixes, it's matrixed surround. The idea isn't that sound comes at you from all sides. It's that you get a solid front soundstage with added depth. It's like stereo with an acoustic space around it. It's more like classical multichannel recordings than ping pong rock ones. Using your AVR, toggle between DTS Music and straight stereo and you'll hear exactly what it's doing. It may be that your speaker setup doesn't render sound fields well. The fronts and the rears need to be able to mesh in the middle. That won't work if there is furniture between you and the rears, or if the rear speakers are smaller than the mains. If it works, you get a really sumptuous enveloping orchestral sound.
Ah, got it. My setup is not ideal for that scenario (KEF Q100 LR and Q200 C, in corner of room with surrounds mounted flush with couch on rear wall) but I will play with it when time permits. Enjoyable nonetheless.
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