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I bought Hand. Cannot. Erase by Steven Wilson on Blu-ray. I can't say it's exactly my style, being old enough to remember Elvis, but it has parts that are very enjoyable. None of it is bad, and I'm sure it will grow on me with a few more playings.
I would say, not Mr Wilson's repeat listening album..I think I heard it one time, once things settle down I'll like to get another session.

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I know Ziggy and some later titles are readily available, but my favs have always been Diamond Dogs and then his Philly Soul period titles, Young Americans and Station To Station. I have found the latter available as a deluxe edition that includes 5.1 DVD-Audio. And I have found on Amazon a CD/DVD version of YA. I haven't dug deep yet, but the second disc contents are listed as 5.1. I have not found any mention of DD in 5.1, but David Live looks to be an all-inclusive way to sweep up a lot of songs I love.

Does anybody have any of these titles, or have comments on them? I did see a customer review decrying a brick wall filter on the 5.1 mix, but I am inclined to consider comments from the members here more highly than an anonymous random review.

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No Bowie fans here?

Hey Jeff
Big Bowie fan here, I think I have every thing he's made in sacd, but I wasn't even aware Diamond Dogs was available in 5.1 let alone those other albums.
I know there's DVD-a live album, that I would love to have if the PRICE IS RIGHT!

Thanks for the info, knowing what's out the is half the battle, getting it cheap is the other half

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Dan, Diamond Dogs (DD) was the one i have not found in 5.1.

Agree on David Live! $60 - $70 seems to be the price i have been seeing which is at the outside edge of what I lik to pay. But it is essentially the Diamond Dogs tour and has glowing reviews.

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Well I got my new surround speakers set up and dialed in with the 'ol Radio Shack SPL analog meter.


Settled in to listen to my new Alison Krauss: New Favorite SACD only to find out I was sold a redbook CD (listed as SACD).


The Amazon seller has been good about the refund and has already issued the return shipping label so that's good but still disappointing.

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Dan, Diamond Dogs (DD) was the one i have not found in 5.1.

Agree on David Live! $60 - $70 seems to be the price i have been seeing which is at the outside edge of what I lik to pay. But it is essentially the Diamond Dogs tour and has glowing reviews.

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Yeah, I should have grabbed the DB's Stage, and the Live when I had the chance at other forum for 20-30 bucks cheaper than what they're going now

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Well I got my new surround speakers set up and dialed in with the 'ol Radio Shack SPL analog meter.


Settled in to listen to my new Alison Krauss: New Favorite SACD only to find out I was sold a redbook CD (listed as SACD).


The Amazon seller has been good about the refund and has already issued the return shipping label so that's good but still disappointing.
Darn that sucks big time it has happen to me a few times, one time was with George Thurgood, I had my One Bourbon One Scotch and One Beer ready only to find out it was regular cd!

I just pressed Dolby Pro Logic 2, and I was back in business


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I did another specific google search and found a David Live (DVD-Audio) on Discogs for $45 delivered. (Sorry Dan, there was only one available. ) Confused seller mis-categorizing his listing? Don't know, but I screencapped my progression of ordering steps for documentation should I need to get a refund.

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No worries, hope it's the right version and let us know what you think once it's home.


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Did any of you guys get an email regarding David Gilmour's new 'Rattle That Lock' album?

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Did any of you guys get an email regarding David Gilmour's new 'Rattle That Lock' album?

I preordered July 18 via Amazon.ca (blu ray), haven't gotten any email from them since. Their site still shows a release date of Sept. 18. Did you receive something SMD?
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I preordered July 18 via Amazon.ca (blu ray), haven't gotten any email from them since. Their site still shows a release date of Sept. 18. Did you receive something SMD?
No, nothing yet.

I was just a bit surprised that I received an email about the up-coming David Gilmour release, as I don't remember agreeing to do so

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I'll definitely grab the Blu-ray of Rattle That Lock to get the 5.1 mix. I bought two tickets to one of the MSG Gilmour shows in April. It says on Ticketmaster that with each ticket bought you get the CD of Rattle That Lock. So it'll be interesting to see if I get two CDs sent to me. There was a similar offer with tickets bought for Mark Knopfler's upcoming tour. Although it was one CD when you bought two tickets. I did receive MK's new Tracker CD in the mail on the release date.

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I'll definitely grab the Blu-ray of Rattle That Lock to get the 5.1 mix. I bought two tickets to one of the MSG Gilmour shows in April. It says on Ticketmaster that with each ticket bought you get the CD of Rattle That Lock. So it'll be interesting to see if I get two CDs sent to me. There was a similar offer with tickets bought for Mark Knopfler's upcoming tour. Although it was one CD when you bought two tickets. I did receive MK's new Tracker CD in the mail on the release date.

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I'll definitely grab the Blu-ray of Rattle That Lock to get the 5.1 mix. I bought two tickets to one of the MSG Gilmour shows in April. It says on Ticketmaster that with each ticket bought you get the CD of Rattle That Lock. So it'll be interesting to see if I get two CDs sent to me. There was a similar offer with tickets bought for Mark Knopfler's upcoming tour. Although it was one CD when you bought two tickets. I did receive MK's new Tracker CD in the mail on the release date.

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The Doors (Best of.). A 4 track SACD from a master intended for the CD-4 vinyl release. Thus no low bass. Ok sound but it won't knock your socks off and not my idea of a Best Of selection.
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The Doors (Best of.). A 4 track SACD from a master intended for the CD-4 vinyl release. Thus no low bass. Ok sound but it won't knock your socks off and not my idea of a Best Of selection.

I'm not crazy about the 4.0 quad mix but the stereo layer is really really good and worth the price of admission alone.
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I'm not crazy about the 4.0 quad mix but the stereo layer is really really good and worth the price of admission alone.
The Doors Perception surround mixes are 5.1. Wonder why this is back to 4.0?? Different ownership of different mixes?

Hands up! Who here would buy a 4.0 after a title is available in 5.1?

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The Doors Perception surround mixes are 5.1. Wonder why this is back to 4.0?? Different ownership of different mixes?

Hands up! Who here would buy a 4.0 after a title is available in 5.1?
The best of wasn't part of the perception set. The quad mix used is the same one from the original quad release way back in the day. So it's kind of apples and oranges, even though all the songs on the best of are available in the perception box, w/ the exception of the live track.

As for 5.1 > 4.0, it's not a numbers game (and sometimes 5.1 mixes are actually quad-like, when little or no info is mixed to the center channel, as in The Division Bell). Sometimes a quad mix is better than a 5.1 mix; many people prefer AP's quad Dark Side of the Moon to Guthrie's 5.1 mix. I prefer his more adventurous placements on that one, though the bottom end is weaker, so for me it's a toss-up. Since I got the Immersion set recently, I've been doing 5.1 up through Money to get the better bass, then switching to 4.0 after that to get the better soundfield. Us and Them in quad esp. blows away the 5.1 mix.

Quad was when surround was still new and many of those old mixes were much more adventurous than recent 5.1 mixes; sometimes to better effect, sometimes not (all subjective of course). And many folks that got into quad back then often prefer the quad mixes b/c that's what they heard 1st.

The best of the Doors was supposedly one of the best quad mixes back in the day; it was reportedly a demo disc for the new tech. I've seen many rave reviews for it over at QQ (though not everyone there loves it). But many of those folks were into quad back then (not surprising, given the name). So many folks would feel the need for the best of in quad in addition to the Perception set. Esp. since the 5.1 mixes on that set are not exactly reference. Me, I'm happy w/ Perception, though I was on the fence for a while.
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I am first and foremost a sound quality guy. That doesn't mean I ignore "art" but a flat, bassless but ... oh I don't know ... "creative" 4.0 mix will still leave me flat every time. Quad mixes from the day, aside from being gimmicky by today's standard, imply the SQ is from that day's technology, whereas a 5.1 mix confers today's quality onto the best available recording of any analog recording, i.e. the multichannel master. Now, some of them ... ahem Tarkus ... are still worthless IMO. I listened to my ELP/ELP and ELP/Tarkus DVD-A titles ONE time before putting them back on the rack. All of the quality there was to wring out of the MCH masters happened when the new remixed stereo was put onto CD, with zilch gained by putting that new stereo mix onto DVD-A. Mostly, though, every old title I have heard remixed (even if to stereo) has benefited from today's lossless digital tech.


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I am first and foremost a sound quality guy. That doesn't mean I ignore "art" but a flat, bassless but ... oh I don't know ... "creative" 4.0 mix will still leave me flat every time. Quad mixes from the day, aside from being gimmicky by today's standard, imply the SQ is from that day's technology, whereas a 5.1 mix confers today's quality onto the best available recording of any analog recording, i.e. the multichannel master. Now, some of them ... ahem Tarkus ... are still worthless IMO. I listened to my ELP/ELP and ELP/Tarkus DVD-A titles ONE time before putting them back on the rack. All of the quality there was to wring out of the MCH masters happened when the new remixed stereo was put onto CD, with zilch gained by putting that new stereo mix onto DVD-A. Mostly, though, every old title I have heard remixed (even if to stereo) has benefited from today's lossless digital tech.


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Well, I was speaking only of my experience w/ the quad of DSotM. Not all quad mixes are bass-shy. And though I haven't gotten any of the AF quad reissues, my understanding is that they are done the same way as other modern MCH mixes, except instead of going back to the multi-tracks, they start w/ the analog quad mixes and then remaster those using modern techniques. From what I've read, the SQ on these have generally been very good. I've been very tempted by some of these, but 1- I'm not overly fond of sacd; I much prefer dvd-a or BR and 2- they are pricey for what you get compared to many surround re-mixes, and my music budget is limited.

I've read other's who feel the same as you re: those ELP re-mixes, but on my far-from-highend-system and to these old ears, they sound mighty fine. Or are you comparing the 2.0 hi-rez dvd-a mixes to the CD mixes? For me, the 5.1 mixes sound better than 2.0 using DPL music mode. But I've read reviews that believe otherwise. I've spun Trilogy more than any other MCH mix since I got it, though much of that may be due to my forgetting how great that album is; I never even got a CD version of it and I rarely spin vinyl anymore, so I hadn't heard it for years.
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Yep, the new stereo mix on CD was far better than the remastered original stereo mix on CD. The new stereo mix on DVD-A was not audibly better (sound quality) than the new stereo mix on CD. So, (1) in comparing CD-to-DVD-Audio as a container, the limiting factor was the quality of the ORIGINAL MULTITRACK MASTERS and not 16/44.1. And (2) remastering the original stereo mix did NOT produce anywhere near the improvement in SQ that remixing from MCH masters did. This latter point had been my thesis for a very long time. Thanks to ELP and Tarkus, I got to test it out.

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Then you should get the 'Best Of' just for the stereo layer. Steve Hoffman did an incredible job, IMO.

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Then you should get the 'Best Of' just for the stereo layer. Steve Hoffman did an incredible job, IMO.
OK, we are still talking Doors, right?

edit: Just (re)discovered that is is "only" remastered. sorry, I have the Perception 5.1 and am satisfied.

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Anyone have news on the Pet Sounds blu ray? Blu-ray.com shows a Sept.4/15 release date, but not much available from sellers thus far...
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Anyone have news on the Pet Sounds blu ray? Blu-ray.com shows a Sept.4/15 release date, but not much available from sellers thus far...
Will that be identical to the Pet Sounds DVD-Audio?

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