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post #36421 of 41423 Old 12-17-2018, 07:53 PM
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And building on this, if you can't excite the first room mode, you won't see its effects through its harmonics, either.
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So, just a quick share about my recent speaker upgrades...

I ended up sending back my 3 Philharmonic AA+ bookshelves because the bass was so powerful it was shaking the floor in front of the speakers and giving me headaches easily. Not boomy bass, nor a setup issue, just overkill for my room and me.

Another way of looking at this is bassheads should definitely try out Dennis Murphys's speakers and they also have perfectly neutral and detailed mids and highs.

So, thanks to the Black Friday pricing on the KEF Q150s, I ended up getting 3 pairs and now am using 5 identical speakers with the L12 sub in a 5.1 setup. It has just the right amount of bass and tactile response and the sound is very refined and seamless from left to right and front to back. Looks gorgeous too and I have yet to order the grilles. I was considering these initially due to the point source design and the $300/pair price sealed the deal for me.

Anyhow, I now know there is such a thing as overkill bass wise for me, but I think I might have just convinced others to take a look at Dennis Murphys's speakers because they sound a lot bigger than they are and they are pretty big to begin with.
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^ I'm really surprised you weren't able to tame them. If you had the ability to EQ a bit more, you could tailor them to your situation. First time I've heard of someone returning them due to too much bass! Has to be the midbass because you crossover to subs.

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someone got bassanoia

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This is the replacement of the LV12R, the LV12F:

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Is the Rythmik logo standard now?

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Is the Rythmik logo standard now?
Since almost two years ago.

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Since almost two years ago.
It's been 3.5 years since I bought my Rythmiks...might need to do something about that...next year.

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It's been 3.5 years since I bought my Rythmiks...might need to do something about that...next year. Other expenses derailed my plans for 2018.
You can get the Rythmik logos for your subwoofers for free. Just need to pay postage which is $2.

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Thanks, but I'm not to worried about the logos for these. I'll get them with my next purchase

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This is the replacement of the LV12R, the LV12F:

The LV12R was a fantastic sub, what's different about the LV12F? Just the port placement moving to the front? On paper it appears that all other specs are similar.
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The LV12R was a fantastic sub, what's different about the LV12F? Just the port placement moving to the front? On paper it appears that all other specs are similar.
Only front port, everything else is the same.
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^^ Front driver and port orientation design probably gives an extra db in output versus rear port/front driver orientation when measuring from the front. It will also give more TR having the port facing the MLP. That was a good move from Rythmik as I never like speaker or sub with rear port making placement somewhat harder.
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UPS is delivering my dual E15HP2's today! I have a setup question:

I'm planning on using both the LFE and Line Inputs for joint HT and music systems. When using HT & LFE, I don't have a way of turning off the signal to the Line Inputs because I'm getting the signal from the 2nd pair of outputs from my dac which I can't turn off because I'm using the HT bypass. I guess I could get a miniDSP and mute with that. But I was wondering what happens when both LFE and Line Inputs get a signal at the same time? It doesn't sound like a good idea does it?

Thoughts?
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UPS is delivering my dual E15HP2's today! I have a setup question:

I'm planning on using both the LFE and Line Inputs for joint HT and music systems. When using HT & LFE, I don't have a way of turning off the signal to the Line Inputs because I'm getting the signal from the 2nd pair of outputs from my dac which I can't turn off because I'm using the HT bypass. I guess I could get a miniDSP and mute with that. But I was wondering what happens when both LFE and Line Inputs get a signal at the same time? It doesn't sound like a good idea does it?

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Not a good idea. LINE IN is affected by crossover, delay/phase and low pass filter functions, while LFE IN bypass those functions. If you play both signals at the same time, they would be out of phase as you need to set proper phase/delay for the LINE IN incoming signal when listening to Stereo.

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Thanks Enrico:

That's what I thought and I see you are also confirming there is no auto-cutoff of one input when the other is used.

Sounds like muting with the miniDSP is my best bet unless someone has a better solution?

And thanks for getting these out to me so quickly, just ordered Monday. These should be great replacements for my 20 year old Hsu TN1220's!
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Thanks Enrico:

That's what I thought and I see you are also confirming there is no auto-cutoff of one input when the other is used.

Sounds like muting with the miniDSP is my best bet unless someone has a better solution?

And thanks for getting these out to me so quickly, just ordered Monday. These should be great replacements for my 20 year old Hsu TN1220's!
A miniDSP would be a good choice. To get instant access to the miniDSP without an USB cable, get the miniDSP Wi-DG so you can control the miniDSP with your iOS or Android smartphone using the miniDSP app.
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What's this I hear about Serith letting his FV25HP's go!? NOOO!!

Lol.

But wondering - looking to upgrade my paradigm mo itor 9 v7's with something different - was looking at the MTM210t's and I would get the matching horizontal center to match.

Thoughts as far as pairing with the FV25HP? Noticable upgrade over the paradigms I'm sure and if Serith has (had?) The MTM's in his theater I am sure it would suffice for my living room as well?

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What's this I hear about Serith letting his FV25HP's go!? NOOO!!

Lol.

But wondering - looking to upgrade my paradigm mo itor 9 v7's with something different - was looking at the MTM210t's and I would get the matching horizontal center to match.

Thoughts as far as pairing with the FV25HP? Noticable upgrade over the paradigms I'm sure and if Serith has (had?) The MTM's in his theater I am sure it would suffice for my living room as well?

Thanks all!
You could have them in a stadium and they would work. Do you need towers? If not you could save money going with the MTM 210s and place the speakers on the subs. They will sound identical
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These should be great replacements for my 20 year old Hsu TN1220's!
The TN1220 is no joke: output monster back in the day in a light and small footprint. I had the TN1220+ 500W amp before switching to the FV15HPs. Congrats on your hp2 pair. You should be able to notice the sound quality difference.
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What's this I hear about Serith letting his FV25HP's go!? NOOO!!

Lol.

But wondering - looking to upgrade my paradigm mo itor 9 v7's with something different - was looking at the MTM210t's and I would get the matching horizontal center to match.

Thoughts as far as pairing with the FV25HP? Noticable upgrade over the paradigms I'm sure and if Serith has (had?) The MTM's in his theater I am sure it would suffice for my living room as well?

Thanks all!
the rest of my theater is still intact, including the psa mtm 210t's in the front sound stage. the fv25's are incredible subwoofers and it was a lot of fun using them this past year.
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Brand new owner of a LV12F - my first "real" sub

I'm not quite sure what it's getting paired with yet. I'm demoing some Klipsch RP-600Ms, but have HTD Level Three's coming tonight to try. I'm very impressed by the build quality and the customer service Rythmik has shown so far. I have some more audio tweaking to do with the sub, but initial impressions are pretty positive.
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Has anyone noticed with the sealed models in particular that with the rumble filter on, you can hear more clearly as you approach 20Hz... however, with it off the low end seems more unlimited and even with content that doesn't go very low it still sounds deeper with more presence/scale?

It's hard to describe this effect in a purely objective manner, but my best attempt at it would be with minimal phase shift at 20Hz the depth of the sub doesn't seem to hit a floor of any kind.

Rumble filter on gives a sound more like my previous ported LV12R, albeit with much better transient response and dry, snappy low end.

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What's this I hear about Serith letting his FV25HP's go!? NOOO!!

Lol.

But wondering - looking to upgrade my paradigm mo itor 9 v7's with something different - was looking at the MTM210t's and I would get the matching horizontal center to match.

Thoughts as far as pairing with the FV25HP? Noticable upgrade over the paradigms I'm sure and if Serith has (had?) The MTM's in his theater I am sure it would suffice for my living room as well?

Thanks all!
The PSA MTMs are great for movies to the point that if I had a dedicated HT room (100% movies) those would be my speaker choice. However, they are not that great for music, just OK. If you do more than 50% music, I would consider Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/RAAL instead.
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The TN1220 is no joke: output monster back in the day in a light and small footprint. I had the TN1220+ 500W amp before switching to the FV15HPs. Congrats on your hp2 pair. You should be able to notice the sound quality difference.
Indeed, an excellent sub in their day. But I'm sure I'm going hear a notable improvement!
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A miniDSP would be a good choice. To get instant access to the miniDSP without an USB cable, get the miniDSP Wi-DG so you can control the miniDSP with your iOS or Android smartphone using the miniDSP app.
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The PSA MTMs are great for movies to the point that if I had a dedicated HT room (100% movies) those would be my speaker choice. However, they are not that great for music, just OK. If you do more than 50% music, I would consider Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/RAAL instead.
Hey Enrico thanks for the advice I really appreciate it. I do listen to about 50/50 movies/music with most of the music being hip hop (in which the FV25HP is performing excellently by the way!).

In terms of the Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/ RAAL - I don't know much about them but I am reading now. I was really falling in love with the MTM's though I was slightly wary but intrigued by the horn tweeter and "getting used" to listening to music all over again.

What would I gain with going with the instead of the MTM210t's ? What would I lose?

Also is the Sierra Horizon the Center to match with those?

Thanks again man really appreciate it!




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Since I've been following that topic for a while now:

Though I haven't heard them -yet-, many people have said that Dennis Murphy's Philharmonic speakers (specifically the BMR Philharmonitor) sound better than the Sierras. It's probably due to better component matching and crossover, though it's also a 3-way vs 2-way. Just putting that out there if looking for an option for music (and HT if you don't need ungodly levels).

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Since I've been following that topic for a while now:

Though I haven't heard them -yet-, many people have said that Dennis Murphy's Philharmonic speakers (specifically the BMR Philharmonitor) sound better than the Sierras. It's probably due to better component matching and crossover, though it's also a 3-way vs 2-way. Just putting that out there if looking for an option for music (and HT if you don't need ungodly levels).
Well, you had said it, you haven't listen to them I have listened to both of them and the Sierras are in another level. In fact, the BMR uses off the shelf RAAL tweeters and off the shelf woofers while the RAAL tweeter of the Sierras is custom made for Ascend Acoustics, same for the SEAS woofer on the Sierra 2. The 4" Sierra Luna woofer was developed by SEAS for Ascend Acoustics and that's the only speaker world wide that uses that driver. It took to Dave more than a year and 10 prototypes to get the right driver from SEAS.

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Hey Enrico thanks for the advice I really appreciate it. I do listen to about 50/50 movies/music with most of the music being hip hop (in which the FV25HP is performing excellently by the way!).

In terms of the Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers w/ RAAL - I don't know much about them but I am reading now. I was really falling in love with the MTM's though I was slightly wary but intrigued by the horn tweeter and "getting used" to listening to music all over again.

What would I gain with going with the instead of the MTM210t's ? What would I lose?

Also is the Sierra Horizon the Center to match with those?

Thanks again man really appreciate it!
You have to listen to both speakers and make your own conclusions. The Sierra Towers are one of the best speakers I have listened to date. They are super flat and lay back but extremely detailed. They are great speakers for female vocals and jazz. Norah Jones and Lalah Hathaway sound like they are in front of you giving you a private concert. The MTMs and great speakers but too forward for music. They play loud and are very dynamic and that's why they are so good for movies. Two totally different speakers.
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